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Old 05-23-2006, 09:00 PM   #1
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New to Airstream and need help with VIN

Hi, My husband and I are new to Airstreams. We have just bought what we believe is a 1964 Overlander. I can find any info that predates 1969 VINs. We are needing to immediately buy vent covers and I want to make sure we are purchasing the right ones. This will be a full restoration. "Dorothy" is a diamond in the rough. Here are a couple of photos of our VIN. Any ideas?

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Old 05-23-2006, 09:15 PM   #2
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Welcome. I can't decifer your whole serial number but can tell you the '4' is for '64, the 'S' is for Santa Fe Springs, and the 6404 is for April of 1964. So yes, you have a 1964 Overlander. It will need the 14" x 14" vent covers and a 25" x 14" AstroDome or SolarDome, depeding on where it is purchased, for the front rectangular vent. Dorothy looks to be in good shape externally, what's the inside look like? She just needs your TLC and she'll be a beauty!!

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Old 05-23-2006, 09:34 PM   #3
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Inside is a complete do over

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Lots and lots of TLC. I think it was more than one bomb. I say, if its loose, take it out. Even if it isn't, consider taking it out.

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Old 05-23-2006, 09:50 PM   #5
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Lots and lots of TLC. I think it was more than one bomb. I say, if its loose, take it out. Even if it isn't, consider taking it out.

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I agree with Brad, I think that it all needs to come out. That way you can fully inspect the floor and replace what is needed in addition to adding any tanks.

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Old 05-23-2006, 10:53 PM   #6
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My suggestion is gut it , throw in some army cots and go to the nearest VAC rally you can find. That is where the people who have already done it can be found, You will get help with suggestion, supplies, and some ingenious answers to those questions you don't even know about yet. Good luck. You may not want to take the trailer at this time but get to the rally, Sat noon to 3:00 is normally "Open House" you can visit and inspect most of the units in attendance. It is a great way to start, that's what I did and it made the job a whole lot easier.
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Old 05-24-2006, 12:50 AM   #7
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Inside and VIN

We will definitely gutting the inside of this trailer. Nothing is salvagable. Still wondering if someone can help me with my VIN. We do know that it was built in Santa Cruz, CA. All the numbers are there in the pics. Also, someone suggested going to a rally. We live in Spring, TX (north of Houston) how does one go about finding where the nearest rally is?
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Old 05-24-2006, 04:55 AM   #8
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A picture is worth a thousand words

I think this is the same coach that we were discussing a couple of days ago. From the description, we got an entirely different idea of what you had, the photos help a lot. I agree with the consenus, it is going to need to be virtually gutted. I would try to save the air conditioner, though, as it looks like an early Armstrong unit, and if you can make it work, it will do a great (albeit noisy) job of keeping your trailer cool. Also, it should have only a small hole in the roof for the fan driveshaft to run through, and the smaller the holes in your roof, the better.
Other things I noticed from your pics:
The fridge looks intact. Does it work? If so, you will save a ton of money by not having to replace it.
The range is toast. A brand-new one can be had for $400.
The countertop where the sink is, looks relatively decent, maybe build new cabinets under it.
The rest of the stuff, I can't really tell form the photos, except that if you are going to throw away the divider curtains, I would like them for our Overlander.
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Old 05-24-2006, 04:58 AM   #9
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A normal reference is the Airstream FAQ section on VINs: http://www.airstream.com/product_lin...e/faq.html#vin

Dunno, looks like they changed format fairly often back then. Brad is closer than I can get!
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A normal reference is the Airstream FAQ section on VINs: http://www.airstream.com/product_lin...e/faq.html#vin

Dunno, looks like they changed format fairly often back then. Brad is closer than I can get!
Yes, the serial number format seems completely different from our 1963, only a year different!
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Question: your 2nd photo shows a black California badge just to the right of the Land Yacht plate. It starts S5215.... That appears more promising! Can you provide that sequence? Thanks.

I'd guess 142 is the production sequence number.
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Old 05-24-2006, 05:09 AM   #12
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Bob, I think that is just a sequential certification number issued by California at the time the coach was built, not really anything to do with the trailer, per se.
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At least the format is more conventional...

We're muggier than Florida this morning. Go figger!
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Old 05-24-2006, 05:14 PM   #14
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More pics - California plates

Here is the California name plate. It's a little hard to read. I think this is what it says. M-4 S-5215 3778 A-90965

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The inside of the fridge is scary. I think it has to go. It was both gas and electric power. We are not to concerned about tackling most items. However, he memtion that all the wiring would have to be replaced. Does anyone know where I can find resources that would show the wiring diagram of the trailer. I don't the that the a/c is salvagable. This camper has been sitting for about 10 to 15years and was being used as a tool shed. (that alone out to be a crime! )
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And it seemed so promising starting with S5215. Now I agree with Terry. Go back to the preceeding comments. We won't know more until we hear from somebody knowledgeable who has an Airstream of this vintage. Too bad Airstream Central's website isn't more useful...
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Hopefully, more people will look through this post. We sure could use the help. Thank you for your help.

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Hopefully, more people will look through this post. We sure could use the help. Thank you for your help.

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Okay, forget the VIN for now. Show us pictures of the vents, or where the vents are supposed to be. We can at least tell you what you need to keep the rain out, and then we can worry about the year and where it was built .
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BTW, you were wanting to make sure you have an Overlander? What name is in script just above the builder's plate, and the California housing plate? Does it say "Overlander" ?
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Your serial # plate is the anomoly here. The number doesn't fit into the normal formats for trailers of this vintage. Replacement plates are available maybe a P.O. ordered a new one some time ago and messed up on the number? Another reason for thinking this is the trim around the serial plate - haven't seen that before.

After looking thru all your photos I am convinced that it is a '64 Overlander 26'. It is a California model as the plate says, and confirmed by your fridge being on the curbside. Your interior while "bombed" shows many similiarities to mine - I also have a '64 Overlander, but mines an Ohio model - same layout with the kitchen flopped side to side. Your A/C is mounted further back but looks similiar is it a Duo-Therm? Your stove is identical to the one I pulled out due to rust (Magic Chef with top vent). Is the fridge a Dometic model M25 (or M52 I don't remember for sure?)
You have a rare option in the bedroom being the quilted vinyl ceiling - that was one of the upgrades in the international package.

I replied to your (or husbands?) prior post on the VIN. http://www.airforums.com/forum...vin-22960.html
My offer still stands on photocopying my manual and sending it to you for just the cost of copies and postage if you aren't able to find one.
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Hi, I am also sure now after further research that it is a 1964. I knew it was an Overlander of course by the plate. I would very much like to have a copy of your manual. Please let me know how you would like to handle it.
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