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Old 05-17-2020, 10:46 PM   #1
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Tow Vehicle question

Looking into purchasing a 27FB Globetrotter within the next 6 months. Need some advice on a tow vehicle. I currently own a 2019 Dodge Laramie 4x4 5.7L V8. Is anyone towing this size trailer with this size truck ? Would appreciate any info.

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Old 05-18-2020, 09:32 AM   #2
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Looking into purchasing a 27FB Globetrotter within the next 6 months. Need some advice on a tow vehicle. I currently own a 2019 Dodge Laramie 4x4 5.7L V8. Is anyone towing this size trailer with this size truck ? Would appreciate any info.

THANKS,
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Hi Cynthia and congrats on your upcoming purchase!

I’m sure your truck can pull a 27FB with no problem. Check the manufacturer’s towing specs for your truck as equipped.

In addition to towing capability, it’s really important that you check the load CARRYING specs on your truck. You can find payload, GVWR and GCWR numbers on stickers inside the driver door jamb. The trailer tongue weight counts as payload.

If, for example, your truck has a 1500 lb payload capacity and your trailer has a 900 lb tongue weight, then you have 600 lbs leftover for passengers and equipment.

The next thing you will want to do is get a weight distribution hitch. There are many types and brands that work fine. Asking around here which is best is like starting a discussion on religion or politics 😀.

You’ll generally find good info here, but it will require some discernment to interpret.

Good luck to you!

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Old 05-18-2020, 12:14 PM   #3
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Towing yes, stopping may be another thing

Hi Cynthia,

Like Jim says, asking tow vehicle advice around here will quickly result in very esoteric comments on intricacies of every brand, model, engine, etc. of potential tow vehicles. Bottom line, I don't think you'll have a problem towing a GT27 with your Laramie. Payload capacity may be an issue, again, like Jim said. But I'll add being able to stop, or at least rapidly slow down your rig, or maintaining a manageable speed on a long downhill is as important as being able to move it down the road. Those considerations should figure into your decision calculus.

We pull our GT27FBT with a Ram 3500. Previously, we towed a International 30RBQ. Some will say the 3500 is overkill, but the GT (and the International) aren't the only trailers I tow, and the engine breaking on the Cummins diesel does a phenomenal job helping maintain a controlled speed on those long downhills. Towing shouldn't be a white-knuckled adventure and, that said, I'm comfortable with how the 3500 easily tows and stops the Airstream.

Good luck on your research, and congratulations on your future purchase.

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Old 05-18-2020, 04:18 PM   #4
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You didn't say if it was a 1500 or a 2500. It might help for people to know if they have the set-up you're considering and can comment directly. Me, I have a 2500 Crew Cab Long Bed and a 6.7L Cummings and I'm towing a 25' so my direct experience won't help much.
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Old 05-18-2020, 04:34 PM   #5
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Hi Cynthia,

I agree with the two previous posters - your number to watch is the RAM’s payload. I can tell from your 5.7L engine, you have a RAM 1500 Laramie. Great truck! We started with a RAM 1500 Laramie 4x4 but discovered after buying it the payload was only 1220 lbs. Our 27’ Globetrotter’s loaded tongue weight is 1,100 lbs. which left us with little payload to spare.

Not trusting just the payload number, we went to the CAT scales to weigh both. The key number to watch is the maximum rear axle rating.

Our 2019 RAM 1500’s rear axle was 4,100 lbs. The CAT scale ticket showed we were just under the max by 100 lbs. with a Blue Ox Sway Pro weight distribution hitch and 1,000 lbs. bars. We took one trip with the truck and it had plenty of power with the 3.92 rear axle ratio but at times felt like the trailer was pushing the truck around.

Long story short we ended up with a 2019 RAM 2500 6.4 gas engine with 2,940 lbs. of payload. The truck feels much more planted now vs. the 1500.

I posted the experience here: https://www.airforums.com/forums/f46...-a-198633.html

Just check your payload, go to the CAT scales and know your limits. You may be able to put some cargo in the trailer rather than the truck to keep within your payload.

Good luck!
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Old 05-18-2020, 04:40 PM   #6
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Looking into purchasing a 27FB Globetrotter within the next 6 months. Need some advice on a tow vehicle. I currently own a 2019 Dodge Laramie 4x4 5.7L V8. Is anyone towing this size trailer with this size truck ? Would appreciate any info.

THANKS,
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Hello from Spicewood, Cynthia!

Towing involves both PULLING and STOPPING. Puling that Airstream will not be a problem at all with that engine setup. Stopping might be a bit of an issue if your trailer brake control is not set up correctly. The trailer brakes should be slightly more “aggressive” in application than your Tow Vehicle (TV). By that, I mean the trailer may not be capable on it’ own of stopping your TV, but it should apply it’s brakes sufficiently that it pulls AFT on your TV. This is a towing brake controller adjustment and an experienced person in towing should be able to help you set that up.
Your Dodge Laramie (?) 4X4 can be paired with several suspensions based upon whether your Dodge is a 1500, 2500, or 3500, each being slightly more Heavy Duty than the previous model. A 1500 might be a little on the “lightweight” side of things, but if it’s towing capacity (likely around 7500 lbs) might be at the upper limit for a 1500. After you make a trip or two, you’ll know.
A 2500 or 3500 would be fully capable, of course.
(BTW, I tow with a Ram 1500 that has the smallest V8 Ram put in these things and pulling my 10K lb. Dump Trlr ... it does fine, but only below 50 mph because the issue is STOPPING power. If the TV is not at least 3/4 the weight of the trailer it’s a questionable operation, IMO.
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Old 05-20-2020, 06:58 AM   #7
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You didn't say if it was a 1500 or a 2500. It might help for people to know if they have the set-up you're considering and can comment directly. Me, I have a 2500 Crew Cab Long Bed and a 6.7L Cummings and I'm towing a 25' so my direct experience won't help much.
Thank you its a 1500
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Old 05-20-2020, 07:01 AM   #8
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Thank you so much very helpful.
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Old 05-20-2020, 07:15 AM   #9
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Lucky you awesome new AS! You may be over your load limits on your 2019 Ram so I recommend installing the Air Lift bags in your rear springs to improve your stability. We pulled our 25FB with two different 1500 Rams (the second had the 3.92 rear end) Your 4X4 will have a lower load limit but I believe the 2019 have more capacity than the previous Rams. You will have no pulling limitation with the Hemi, it has lots of power. The advantage of the 2500 is higher load limits etc, but you have what you have, enjoy the 1500 and be cautions about what you are loading in the bed and on the front of your AS.
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The most common first timer mistake...worrying about it.

Get a quality weight distribution hitch, read the instructions and set it up properly.
Make sure the tow vehicle has LT,(light truck) tires of the proper load rating,(on the tire sidewall).

Fret less about 'payload' and be aware of the TV,(tow vehicle) GAWR,(gross axle weight rating, on the driver door jam), and stay under it with a loaded for camping rig.👍

Take your time...it ain't roket sceince.🤓

We started long before the air forum and survived, common sense rules.

FWIW...add-on suspension 'air bags' do little to improve towing and do nothing to increase TV capability.
You return TV rear end 'squat' with the hitch weight distribution bars,

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Old 06-09-2020, 12:09 PM   #11
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Hi, need some advice on hitch brand. Reading that Blue Ox is a good choice but need some input and thanks in advance
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Old 06-09-2020, 12:47 PM   #12
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The Blue Ox is a good choice. Your 1500 spring rates are a bit lighter than ideal for towing the the 27' er so it won't hurt to go a bit more stiff on tension bars (don't go too stiff, I find the square bars on some hitches too rigid.) than the Blue Ox or go with the 1400 lb bars. It also never hurts to go with something with more sway control either, though again the Sway Pro is adequate for your set-up. Full disclosure, I am using a Blue Ox. I like it but I also know it has strengths and weaknesses.
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