Free 7 Day Trial RV GPS App RV Trip Planner Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Free 7 Day Trial ×
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 04-04-2021, 02:42 PM   #1
2 Rivet Member
 
silvereagle2's Avatar
 
2014 27' FB International
Cary , North Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 39
Hail damage to roof - can we ignore it?

We sustained severe hail damage to our 2014 27Fb. We are in the process of getting an inspection at our local Airstream dealer along with an adjuster from Progressive. It is obvious we need to replace all of the front and end panels plus all of the broken roof vents and covers, but what about the roof itself? As you can see from the pictures the entire roof is covered with significant hail damage, but if the roof is not compromised we could live with this since you canít really see any of this from street level. If we need to replace the roof, the trailer will probably be totaled and would cost us a fortune to get a replacement unit ( not to mention the lack of availability).

Does anyone have any advice or experience to share? Thanks
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	7D960E24-D94B-4C7C-9608-F703EBBD3148.jpg
Views:	13
Size:	292.2 KB
ID:	392358   Click image for larger version

Name:	5FFB22B2-A520-411C-858A-A45A246B7AA9.jpg
Views:	12
Size:	256.3 KB
ID:	392359  

Click image for larger version

Name:	C280C9AC-D6A2-4FCF-9EF9-6E0B1D196450.jpg
Views:	14
Size:	294.0 KB
ID:	392360  
silvereagle2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 02:47 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
Iansk's Avatar
 
1977 31' Sovereign
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Sunset Valley , Texas
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 726
Perhaps a good and thick application of Bus Kote or similar would be appropriate since the roof is already white. Helps a ton with the heat...

That’s all I’ve got.

Ian
Iansk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 03:02 PM   #3
Rivet Master
 
B. Cole's Avatar
 
1977 31' Sovereign
Rochester , WASHINGTON
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 631
Honestly, I would let them total it out, with pre negotiations of a buy back of the rig for you, with a salvage title.
They don't want to be stuck with it, if they can take a lesser hit on it.If you can live with the dented roof etc /settlement long term, go for it.All they can do is say no.
Just remember, everything is for sale.At some point...
__________________
Airstream rodeo clown, it's my turn in the barrel 🤡
B. Cole is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 03:54 PM   #4
4 Rivet Member
 
Spartanguy's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
Currently Looking...
Louisville , Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 375
Quote:
Originally Posted by silvereagle2 View Post
We sustained severe hail damage to our 2014 27Fb. We are in the process of getting an inspection at our local Airstream dealer along with an adjuster from Progressive. It is obvious we need to replace all of the front and end panels plus all of the broken roof vents and covers, but what about the roof itself? As you can see from the pictures the entire roof is covered with significant hail damage, but if the roof is not compromised we could live with this since you canít really see any of this from street level. If we need to replace the roof, the trailer will probably be totaled and would cost us a fortune to get a replacement unit ( not to mention the lack of availability).



Does anyone have any advice or experience to share? Thanks


I saw a newer Airstream Bambi in Glenwood Springs once that was so dented up I thought it was a joke, the poor thing looked like it had syphilis before penicillin, guess it was working for them just fine though.
Spartanguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 05:07 PM   #5
Rivet Master
 
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville , Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 3,911
Blog Entries: 1
That is a lot of damage. I think you need to get the full estimate and then decide. I expect having it totaled out and then you buy it back would work. I know a person that did that. Or if they decide to just replace all the damaged panels that would be best. It might not be that much more to do all of the panels since the whole interior has to come out anyway.
Bill M. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 05:48 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
2019 30' International
Pennsylvania , Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 771
My consideration with this kind of stuff is, what about resale down the road? I'd have it repaired to pre-hail damage condition, or total it.
__________________
If you ain't havin' fun you ain't doin' it right

2017 Ford CCSB F250 XLT 6.2L Gas 4x4 Ruby
2019 International Serenity 30 Rear Twin
majorairhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2021, 05:50 PM   #7
Rivet Master
 
SilverWind's Avatar
 
2017 25' International
1968 17' Caravel
Los Osos , California
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 508
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill M. View Post
That is a lot of damage. I think you need to get the full estimate and then decide. I expect having it totaled out and then you buy it back would work. I know a person that did that. Or if they decide to just replace all the damaged panels that would be best. It might not be that much more to do all of the panels since the whole interior has to come out anyway.
Be very careful who you choose to do the work. The mothership would be my choice.
SilverWind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 09:23 AM   #8
2 Rivet Member
 
2018 22' Sport
San Antonio , Texas
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 28
So sorry to hear of your hail damage. We suffered the same hail damage two years ago in Montana on our 2019 Bambi.
We had replacement policy with Progressive, and they totaled the rig.
We spent a few more bucks and upgraded to a 25fb Flying Cloud.
Fortunately the dealership had several in stock!
Best wishes for a suitable outcome.
CinTerLine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 09:28 AM   #9
Icy
2 Rivet Member
 
2010 22' Sport
Sarnia , Ontario
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 21
Get it all fixed, you want to get stuck with a damaged Airstream. A good insurance company will either fix or a payment. The seams are probably all damaged from the aluminum being stretched from the hailstorm.
Icy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 09:34 AM   #10
Rivet Master
 
thewarden's Avatar

 
2016 27' International
Sherwood Park , Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 630
I suffered the same damage in a hail storm here last year, and it is currently in for repair. Repair is going to be in the range of 26K. If I were paying for the repair myself for the roof panel, I would not bother fixing it if it was sound. I would cover it with solar panels. A full solar system would be less than the cost of replacing the white roof panel, it would cover up most of the damage, and you would have a great solar system to boot.
thewarden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 09:39 AM   #11
2 Rivet Member
 
2021 27' Globetrotter
Tallahassee , FL
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 28
If ins. totaled it and you did a buy back, will your ins. company still insure it and for how much? How hard or easy is it to get insurance on a salvage title? I would think just letting them total it might be the best?
Kawboy01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 10:25 AM   #12
Rivet Master
 
carl2591's Avatar
 
2005 31' Classic
Garner, , North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 925
has anyone taken the airstream to a auto hail damage repair shop. I have seen pickups and cars with hail damage before and after..

if you look close at the right angle you can still see of the damage but for the most part it not noticeable.. for the roof I would do the buskot deal to make sure the seams that got bent from strikes are sealed and not worry about it..

solar panel to cover adn give freeish power for boondocking.
__________________
Carl, Raleigh NC
2-24-16 got a 2005 Classic 31D
TUG2.net check it out for good rental deals
2003 F-250 SD, CC, 7.3L PowerStroke
WBCCI#1691, Piedmont Airstream Club, Unit #161, Region #3
carl2591 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 10:57 AM   #13
Rivet Master
 
s1000pre's Avatar
 
2021 30' Flying Cloud
2020 25' International
minneapolis , Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 501
Images: 1
The issue with aluminum is it stretches and forms a new shape. it doesn't just pop back like steel. That said, my 2019 Aluminum F150 had an elongated dent at the base of the door (snowbank) which Dent Heads was able to remove. The difference was being elongated, where hail damage is a deep impact with little circumference.
I just looked at the interior on my FC 30 Bunk. It has one piece of aluminum panel that runs the entire length. In my case, yes I would need to remove the entire interior including the rear shower to remove the overhead aluminum sheet and access the back of the roof rivets. Bummer!!! I think I would let them total it!
s1000pre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 12:55 PM   #14
Rivet Master
 
banderabob's Avatar
 
2008 19' Bambi
2012 23' Flying Cloud
Bandera , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 620
Quote:
Originally Posted by majorairhead View Post
My consideration with this kind of stuff is, what about resale down the road? I'd have it repaired to pre-hail damage condition, or total it.
Given the severity, were I a potential purchaser down the road, Iíd probably walk away. We have some hail damage on our roof, but itís about 1/3 the depth of yours. Must have been a hail of a storm!
banderabob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 02:06 PM   #15
1 Rivet Member
 
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
Marana , Arizona
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 5
We had similar damage though not quite as severe to our 2015 FC back in 2016. We had even brought it to Jackson Center after the storm to get an estimate and to attend Alumapalooza. What I learned by getting the AS estimate and by attending a refurbishing seminar at Alumapalooza is that there's a significant difference between buck rivets and Olympic rivets.

When the trailer is built the exterior skin is attached to the frame using buck rivets that require two people (one on each side) to install each rivet. Once the exterior skin is completed, the wiring, insulation, etc. is installed before the interior skin is attached, using Olympic rivets which can be installed by one person, after which the rivet stem is ground off.
If you were to repair the roof and end panels and use buck rivets, you'd need to uninstall all the cabinets and everything else inside, above the roof line. An incredibly expensive undertaking and one that would almost guarantee a write-off.
If you go with the Olympic rivets, they may not seal as well (hence why AS uses buck rivets on the exterior.
The takeaway from the seminar I got was, if it's not leaking don't fix it. We decided against repairing our trailer and have continued to use it with no ill effects, still watertight 4+ years after the hailstorm. A dealer I spoke to at Alumapalooza that year said that several years down the road if we decided to sell, the discount would not be that significant..........
We were able to pocket the insurance money based on the Olympic rivet repair estimate from AS and continue to enjoy our trailer - no salvage title or other issues.
It's a tough decision to make but I certainly understand your reluctance to accept a write-off, given the short supply of replacement Airstreams.
Bruce.S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 03:20 PM   #16
New Member
 
2009 20' Flying Cloud
Westminster , Colorado
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 4
I purchased a trailer from an Airstream dealer in Colorado. Although we got a significant price reduction from the purchase of the trailer, it was not listed as a totaled and we do not have a salvage title and it was not necessary for us to repair the roof.
Helper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 07:36 PM   #17
2 Rivet Member
 
silvereagle2's Avatar
 
2014 27' FB International
Cary , North Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 39
Thanks for the thoughts

Thank you so much for all of the feedback. We have a target date for the inspection of our trailer later this month. Meanwhile we are communicating with Jackson Center to see what their advice would be. We JUST paid off our loan and we have ďreplacement valueĒ insurance policy, but unfortunately this would only cover what we paid for it in 2014. New ones, and even late model used ones will still require more $.

Meanwhile, we just purchased a 2017 Nissan Titan Reserve pickup truck for a new tow vehicle to replace our totaled Expedition. I never thought that I would own a pickup truck, but the newer Expeditions donít tow as much anymore...
silvereagle2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 08:03 PM   #18
Rivet Master
 
rideair's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,494
Based on the pictures, it appears to be worse on the painted white area than the non-painted area? Is that because it's a different grade of aluminum?

I'd be inclined to do a buy-back, filled the dents with filler, paint white and you'd never know it happened. The end caps might be a quicker/cheaper repair.

The real question becomes, do you like the trailer and did you plan to keep it for a long time anyway? Look at it this way, they could buy you out, you then add $$$ to that amount, buy another trailer and the same thing happen on your next outing.

Patch, Paint, Solar and Go!

Enjoy,
__________________
Paul Waddell
rideair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 08:41 PM   #19
4 Rivet Member
 
Peter417's Avatar
 
1966 17' Caravel
1972 21' Globetrotter
SW , Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 420
What does it look like from the ground?
__________________
NWA MTB
Peter417 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2021, 09:03 PM   #20
Rivet Master
 
1969 18' Caravel
Greenville , whereEverIroam
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 1,058
Images: 20
How I learned to stop worrying and love the dents.

I used to build models as a kid; anyone could paint their F-15 to look like new, but only the highly skilled experts could apply realistic battle damage.

Later I learn that there are crafts people in Hollywood, expert carpenters, painters who not only build brand new sets, but who ďageĒ them. On purpose.

In Japan, an old tea cup veined with hairline cracks covering the enamel is admired for itís beauty.

Entropy seems to be baked into the crust of the universe. We can fight it, or hide it, try to ignore it, or deny it, but I havenít found anyone who has yet beat it.

A brand new shinny Airstream draws a lot of attention, but they donít stay that way without a lot of fuss and expended energy, time and money. Fortunately, that new appearance isnít required for camping where my gaze hopefully will be drawn to the wonders around me rather than the tin trailer I sleep in.

At some point in our life, most of us come to terms with the stranger we see in the mirror who looks more and more like our parents than us, perhaps after going through the stages of grief, or perhaps because we fundamentally understand the way life works.

I think if I spend more time effort and energy on what matters and donít worry so much about the stuff that doesnít, maybe I'll get though it a bit happier?

Can you ignore the dents? I dunno. Can you?
skyguyscott is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Some hail damage..(just on roof) GettinAway Dollars & Cents 31 04-24-2015 07:17 AM
Hail Damage to Roof Panels dgilchrist44 Roof 0 03-21-2011 05:16 PM
Are men hard-wired to ignore their wives? yukionna Off Topic Forum 63 02-16-2007 06:04 AM
Hail, Hail and we're still here GreggH Off Topic Forum 10 04-09-2006 06:48 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.