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Old 09-04-2008, 09:44 PM   #21
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I think a lot of that is that more and more people have switched from tents to travel trailers and motor homes. We don't rough it as much as we used to.

I'm not entirely convinced that is where the explanation lies. While probably you are correct in saying more are using RVs, a disproportionate number of younger people seemed to be missing from the west this summer. Having said that, all I am going on is my impressions, not data.
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Old 09-05-2008, 02:29 PM   #22
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The Age Wave is evidencing itself in the move to RVs vs tents. Older and more affluent, able to afford, means no more ground. This is one of the reasons I bot the BC. I typically motorcycle/tent camped but now I can Moto in style, no more ground I
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:05 PM   #23
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Hi! Over the past few weeks I have made several trips between Dallas and Shreveport....the lack of MHs is obvious...maybe its the time of year but even during the latter part of the summer I noticed fewer and fewer MHs on the freeway. Our 345 was used sparringly this summer but at least it was used.
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Old 10-13-2008, 12:49 PM   #24
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Update oil. Broke $80bbl. Just saw $3.25Gal. Get Ready for $60bbl!
Looks like all the unregulated Hedge Funds are dumping the commodities,
Net Net for gas in the long run... $2.25gal. Biggest price drop per gallon on gas was this last week. Roll on, big rig!

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Old 10-13-2008, 01:09 PM   #25
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Gas has broken the $3.00 mark in Atlanta at a few stations. However, the average is still about $.40/gallon higher than the national average (Average is $3.42/gallon in Atlanta). I ventured out into the hinterlands this weekend and in rural central Georgia I found $3.04 at many stations. I always felt that prices would drop back to something reasonable...at this rate we may be there by spring!
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Old 10-13-2008, 02:10 PM   #26
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The trade is the stopper...

It may be a great time to buy a TV or RV, but you would get nothing in trade for what you have now. I'm afraid I couldn't justify multiple Airstreams like some. That and not enough time to keep them up much less use them! If you were just getting into it and didn't need to finance, you could just about have your pick right now...
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Old 10-13-2008, 02:24 PM   #27
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I just paid $3.59 yesterday for Gal. Diesel. It has dropped gas to $2.69 here in Pa. at Hess Gas with my 5% off thats $2.57 Gas ...$3.44 Diesel keep coming down Please!!!! I wanna Travel!!!
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Old 10-13-2008, 02:31 PM   #28
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I paid $3.86/gallon for diesel last Thursday and I'm sure it has come down some more since then. I can actually fill my tank on empty for less than $100 now! Wow, a whole weeks worth of gas for less than $100. What will I do with the extra money? Ye'ah, right.
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:14 PM   #29
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We are currently visiting the NE.....and, we saw two stations with regular gas for $2.99/gallon today!
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:42 PM   #30
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Update $2.69 Abington Virginia, Southern VA.
Price per barrel now 75$ next stop 60!

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Old 10-16-2008, 10:52 AM   #31
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$68.92 Per bbl today, thats a 8% drop in a day. At this rate we will be seeing sixty maybe tomorrow!

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Old 10-16-2008, 11:37 AM   #32
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Wahoo! I wonder how long it will be before we see $48/barrel. For some reason that number sticks out in my mind. Wouldn't the $11/barrel of the late '90's be a blessing...I doubt we'll see that again. If we do, that will really mean the economy has gone into the tank.
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:07 PM   #33
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$68.92 Per bbl today, thats a 8% drop in a day. At this rate we will be seeing sixty maybe tomorrow! Fill'er up, Bizcamp
Hummm... diesel must still be $110/barrel here in Texas... It's a dollar/gallon more than regular unleaded. Lowest I've seen it lately was $3.59/gal. That's as ridiculous as $4.59... and guess what get's transported using diesel fuel?

Yup, pretty much everything.

Me thinks they shocked us with unbridled greed just so we'd think anything over $2.50-3.00 was a bargain now... I should be grateful?

Sure isn't coming down as fast as it went up. Screws up that 'economics theory'.
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Old 10-16-2008, 05:42 PM   #34
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On the way home the local consumer reporter said we would see $4.45-$4.50 within 45 days and that when oil prices are rising, gas prices always go up much faster than they come down when oil prices fall.

I guess it's supply side economics: the oil companies control the supply side, so they control the economics!
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:16 AM   #35
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I don' think that you will see $11bbl oil in our lifetimes again.
Global Growth is not going away, just taking a breather.
Life is relative.
Remember, your parents paid .25 a gallon, now 2.50.
We paid 1.00 so 2.50 is good.
Average price per gallon to the future is going to be closer to 2.50 but if it stays down like that for 20 years. Wahoo Wa!

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Life is relative.
Remember, your parents paid .25 a gallon, now 2.50.
We paid 1.00 so 2.50 is good.
Hey, Bizcamp.....I remember needing gas in my parents' 1962 Chevy Impala, and all I had was a dollar. It gave me a quarter tank....at $0.25 per gallon.

Although, I hate the price of gas being high as much as anyone, the only thing that seems to force the automakers into research & development of cleaner, more fuel efficient vehicles is a gas crisis! Part of me hopes it stays high....

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Old 10-18-2008, 09:48 AM   #37
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Warbler5,
I remember when I was in high school and 5 bucks was plenty of money to cruise all night on, early 70s was the last big hurrah for cheap, cheap oil. Enjoy it while you can and try to invest in a stock that will offset that gas price volitility. You'll worry less about fuel prices if your investment is paying for the gas. We are very lucky that we have the opportunity and freedom to traipse our great country and we should enjoy it while we got it, eh?
P.s. Watch the oil discoveries in Brazil, that should make prices cheaper in the coming years.

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Old 10-22-2008, 02:34 PM   #38
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66.75bbl close today on oil. Do I hear 60?

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I guess that old myth that gas prices drop slower than they rise is dead now, eh?
$1.98gal in Harlingen Texas. Where were gas prices a few months back, over 4$?

Fastest drop in gas at the pump in the history of gas...last month!

Since gas didn't rise that fast, why did it drop that fast! Debate all you want,
gas is now set to stay average low 2.25 gal. average over the next 10 years.
What a great time to have bought the AS, eh? Timing is everything.

Get out there and enjoy the next decade.

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Old 10-29-2008, 01:44 PM   #40
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from IBD today "People often ask: if oil prices are falling so fast, why aren't gasoline prices? The fact is, gasoline prices in recent weeks have plunged sharply. But gasoline prices never rose as much as oil prices did in relative terms, and so have had less to fall.
Crude oil prices soared a bit over 138%; gasoline prices to their peak only rose 76%. Today they are roughly in equilibrium."

This explanation shows that the sellers of gasoline were absorbing alot of the price rise, matter of fact, they absorbed almost half the price of gasoline price increases from Jan. 07 to July 08.

So, you can complain about the higher cost of gas but the reality is that the sellers of gas only charged half of the true cost for that period, and therefore kept prices down and affordable to the consumer.

Another myth bites the dust: Gas is manipulated to cause the end user to pay too much vs the true value. Truth:The average seller of gas did everyone a favor and kept the majority of the cost of gas to a minimum for the biggest price rise period.

They can't raise the price of gas when oil is low but they keep it as cheap as possible when it is high... this is the wonder of competition and capitalism.

Next time you buy gas, let the owner know how much you appreciate what they do for you. They will be astounded that someone understands.

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