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Old 12-31-2023, 06:29 AM   #1
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We are looking at a 2008 25ft Safari at a major dealership chain in Tucson. They have come down from 35000 to 32000 and are selling it as is. The trailer looks well taken care of with no outside blemishes and the inside is fairly clean. There is a stain on the front window covering that looks like a water stain and a stain on the carpeting by the bed between the bed and the bathroom. We were told it looks like a coffee stain. We are believing, if we go forward, that we should buy their warrantee but havent proceed far enough to know yet how much it is and what it covers. Any advise will be so welcomed. Mostly, if we were to go forward what are major questions should we be asking? (Weve asked about tires and batteries and leaks) Thanks!
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My 2 cents, it doesnt matter what you ask the dealer. They are going to tell you whatever. If it were me, I would pose the question to an inspector. “How soon can you get down there?” Hope it all works out!
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Old 12-31-2023, 09:34 AM   #3
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Or, go to the Portal tab at the top of the screen, then scroll down until you find a link to trailer inspectors in your area AND the Trailer Inspector's checklist. You might be able to find a volunteer inspector this way, but you face the risk of an amateur inspector not being thorough enough. You also can use the checklist to do a very thorough inspection on your own.

The dealership probably took the trailer in on trade-in, low-balled the previous owner, and is just turning around and selling it. "As-is" means they don't care what shape it is in, they have no intention of putting any money into it. This is the same business model most car dealerships use. So if you are shopping for a used car, you either pay a premium to get a "certified" used car with a warranty, or you buy the "as-is" car, and buy their 3rd party warranty, or just roll the dice and hope for the best.

Your biggest concerns with a relatively new, used trailer are that the floor is rotting, or major appliances are not working. You can inspect both of these items using the checklist.

good luck!
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Old 12-31-2023, 11:27 AM   #4
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Have an Experienced Airstream Owner INSPECT

You have two choices, BOTH are good. One for humidity. One is what you can see is clean.

A- Dealer demonstrates everything works and your tow vehicle is appropriate.

B- Find someone who is willing to inspect for you... and not a person the Dealer give you for reference. (If a local says it is a DOG... he may be in the position of not being able to get future service work, etc, etc. )

C- Former owner from a WET area, or Local Arid area? (3rd question)

D- Shiny and Clean at a Dealership is Positive. Look UNDER the trailer and under the bed, storage compartment and for ANY RUST or Filiform.

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(1) Have the Dealer Fill the Fresh Water Tank. Remove any air in the cold and hot water lines. Listen to hot water tank fire up and shut down. Check the Refrigerator... works, or does not on Propane and 120 volts. Same with Fresh Water. Propane AND 120 volt.

(2) Open the Propane Tanks and... check EVERY Appliance, water line, grey and black water tank for leaks.

(3) Electrical. Batteries and Solar? How old are the Batteries? Does the trailer operate NOT plugged into 120 volt? Unplug and check everything operates on 12 volt and batteries for interior lighting, etc.

(4) Connect the trailer to your vehicle to check if the Trailer and Hitch work for you. Brakes, tail lights... does your Tow Vehicle trailer brake system work or not.

(5) Solar? Low voltage, check batteries. AGM's?

(6) One appliance will cost you to repair or replace.

(7) Used is used. If the Dealer says AS IS... look in your wallet for a way to pay for whatever does not work.

(8) The Tucson Dealer has a new show room and does work on site. ASK what a 100% Warranty for the First Year would cost from them.

(9) I bought from the original owner an AS IS Oliver II Elite. I 'trusted' the Seller. The expensive Truma Hot water System was damaged beyond repair. (I trusted this seller.) He knew the Service Center ruined his Truma under warranty repairs that was in three times. Even I could not get the part or fix.

(10) I sell my USED Airstreams personally. They were 100% operational and I demonstrated it to 'newbie travel trailer buyers'.

(11) This was a trade it to the Dealer. They would have checked it out. It should be 100% operational. Check the tires for DATE replaced, if replaced.

(12) Propane Tanks can be only so old. I cannot recall how many years, but ask.

(13) Water Pump. Batteries. Furnace, yes even in Tucson... lights, tail lights.

(14) Hitch included? Is it needed or appropriate?

(15) The 25 Foot Safari is perfect. Not too small. Not too large.

(16) There ARE owners in the Tucson area. I would trust one who has an older Airstream. They know. Look down the Toilet. Pile of STUFF... Run Away.

(17) .... my fingers are tired. That is a lot of money. Solar is a PLUS. Tires 16 inch Michelins and Sendels a plus. Marathons... are a bad choice. If Tires are NEW... it has lots and lots of mileage on them Bearings.

The End... for now. I resisted to add anything else to avoid appearing to be a Human Bean that needs a good haircut.
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Thanks so much!
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I thought I replied to you but I don’t see it. Anyway…thank you so much for your thorough answer!
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Thanks to all of you that answered so quickly. Turns out the large chain RV dealership sold it to someone else after they sent us a quote. My husband drive out to ask the questions to find they sold it to some else without telling us. So I guess we go back to looking. After my husband recovers from this disappointment. Anyway…thanks again. We appreciate your help!
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Get your education by going to the local dealer and 'sniff around'. Get your education by checking and testing. Salesmen like to work with potential customers, too.

If someone full timed... sniffing around... is the clue. A stinky joke, OK?

Try the water pump. The cook top. The Solar... if it has Solar. If it does not, mark that down as 'Part of a Deal'. Asking Price... then add on some options to sweeten the deal for you and the Dealer moves something off the lot in the process.

If you Boondock, maybe add a Three Inch Lift Kit installed as part of the deal.

The 25 foot is probably the Number 1 seller. Like Goldilocks and the Three Bears.

Easy to sell as Single Axle owners want to go to a Double Axle. They already know what to look for.

If the trailer was Lived In Full Time... lift the toilet seat, put your foot on the pedal and look with a flash light. You see a Brown Bat Dung Pile... pass on that one.

Travel Trailers are complicated. I would go as late as 2019 as you have all the power options. Avoid ALL Electric and Lithium Solar just due to the cost and you may not want to watch Howdy Doodie Cartoons on the television anyway.

If you are an Electrical Engineer... go for it. I am a Stone Age Relic that survived five Ice Ages, during the Climate Warming in between. This is the Sixth Warm Spell, so make sure the furnace works, well. A geologist will tell you it will get cold sooner than later.

We have had up to two televisions in our Airstreams and never used them. RV Parks offer hookups to cable, so then... you may find the TVs interesting. I don't.

If the Wife likes it... start checking everything out. You found a good woman, she will not complain later about the purchase. She will enjoy buying rugs and bed spreads. Let her pick and chose. Do not be a common Human Bean.

Your Tow Vehicle will determine the comfort level. A 1/2 Ton pickup will handle a 23 foot well and a 25 foot could be border line. Having too much tow vehicle is good. Having a 6 banger with two leaf springs... stay home. Safer on the couch watching cable TV.

Good luck. We returned from the Casino and Nancy hit the Four Aces and a Kicker on Video Poker. Those who play nickels... knows what that means. We quit and drove off into the Sunset.
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