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Old 03-20-2008, 05:57 AM   #21
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Well its purrrttyyy. A lot of work and pretty cool but way too much cash. And as mentioned the weight has got to be off the charts. The on the human side of camping, I wouldn't want to be kicking a flat screen all night while trying to sleep, the reading lights would last one weekend. Whats with the limes? A $2,500 coffee maker? I'm happy with my little percolator! Yes, a fun looking AS but let's be real, can you tow it and can you 'camp' in it? This one doesn't fit into my Airstream Life style!
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:39 AM   #22
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Oh hell, for a country that's got people willing to offer over $1,000 for a single corn flake - see The Great Illinois Corn Flake Coupon - eBay (item 110235071660 end time Mar-21-08 20:16:33 PDT)

the asking price on that Airstream would obviously be just chicken feed.

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p.s. Do an Ebay search for "corn flake" and you'll see there are plenty of flakes out there.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:05 AM   #23
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Ummmmmmmmm.....ok......how about if we all pool our money together, buy the cornflake, have it framed and then we can share it on a scheduled basis. We could afford to share it easier than forking out the $$ for the trailer.

As for the beautiful trailer.......wow!!! But way out of my league.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:13 AM   #24
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I sent this e-Bay listing person an inquiry asking where he gets the moxie to ask $170,000 for his trailer. I continue that it has no marble or granite floors or counters, no sophisticated computer controlled lighting and monitoring systems (ala Prevost MoHos), no outrageous eye-popping electronics and other super expensive goodies found in th megga bus-type RVs, and could he please provide the name of the stuff he is smoking!!

So he send back a very nasty (rightly so) reply saying that it has been appraised for $250,000 and that he has over $140,000 of materials in it. He sure does hide it well. His 'appraiser' must be smoking the same stuff!!!

He might find a sucker (read buyer) who has that kind of disposable cash to plop down on his precious creation, but no intelligent person would ever consider it!.........not from this board anyway!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice work....sure! $170,000 worth.......FUHGEDDABOUDITTTT!!!!!!
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:49 AM   #25
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I really liked the little plastic army guys in the trailer. Now I wish I had kept mine, I could put them in my trailer. I wonder if they fall over while traveling?
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:50 AM   #26
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I couldn't help but notice- in both the ebay listing and u-tube video- that there are no propane tanks! The joker that redid this trailer had no concept of camping. Forget about boondocking- nothing would work. And really- a wet bath in a 31' trailer- what the heck were they thinking!
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:59 AM   #27
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I took a look at the video, am I looking at the video wrong or did the guy spray on the insulation.

Didn't Inland say that Airstream tried this and the spray on stuff eventually wears down to powder with all transit and such.

There is no question it's a unique trailer, but I have to ask the question that Lew sort of eluded to. Folks that buy $100k+ luxo barges typically by MoHos with washer, dryers, electro this, automatic that. I don't see much of that in this trailer, though I will admit it has a lot of neat stuff in it. I would have to agree, the gross weight must be beyond what's listed.

IMHO, the trailer crowd is a bit more frugal, I'm keenley aware of the Ralph Lauren units that sold, but in this economy, is something like this even practical? I guess practical would be in the wallet of the buyer. To me though, someone with $170k isn't gonna want to do the trailer thing IMHO.

Everyone has also brought up good points. Insurance? Future service? Depreciation?

Can you imagine boondocking in this? I guess the idea is that you don't with something like this.

Nice job on the unit, looks sharp, but as you can see, no bids yet, and I'd be shocked if someone did honestly really bid this one. I can't see some person with the $$$ wanting to go through the trouble of hauling.

Whadda pull it with? Something like this??

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PS- the guy has good taste in computers...I noticed what I thought was a Mac on the countertop in the video....guy can't be all that bad if he's a Mac owner too....a dreamer yes, but all we Mac users are.
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:39 AM   #28
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Gosh for that price it even comes with bad axles...........

Gee I'll sell my 58 for only $45,000

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Old 03-20-2008, 08:45 AM   #29
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Wow - you guys are tough!

Setting the price aside, it's a pretty cool restoration. It may take a while to sell it but there is some deep-pocketed person out there who will buy it.

On second thought - it's really no longer an AS - just the outside shell is. Everything else is custom built. Considering the costs of custom work, the price may not be that far out of line. Look at custom mohos. They go for some pretty steep prices. We're just used to AS price tags that are much lower.

The person who buys it wont be a camper staying at your neighborhood KOA. They will be someone in the movie or fashion industry who wants luxury accomodations on location.

The eBay write-up was ridiculous though - burnt red skies - give me a break!
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:40 AM   #30
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This'll never be boondocked, that's obviously artistic license in the description. It'll sit in the Hamptons as a pool cabana, 100 yards from the ocean. And I don't believe it's supposed to compete with Prevost, so the washer/drier issue is probably a non-issue. It is its own market.

I'd never have taken a gamble putting this much money into this project, but it's certainly realistic to think there are customers out there that shop the Neiman Marcus Christmas catalog, (or FAO Schwartz for that matter!) There are always big boys looking for big toys.

Pam Anderson probably spent this much on her empty shell with a stripper pole... and didn't get 1/10 of the result these guys did. So I too have nothing but admiration for the quality of this one. As for the "NBA star who's been on MTV Cribs" customer they're looking for - I wish them nothing but success. I do think it'll sell a lot quicker on the DuPont Registry.
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:37 AM   #31
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If it was a 26 footer I'd be printing it off to use as a post rehab insurance comparible for sure. Side note, I was looking at the Powell & Bonnell Design showcase Airstream that's in Airstream Living by Bruce Littlefield and Simon Brown, that can't have been much less pricey can it?
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:43 AM   #32
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Wow - you guys are tough!

Setting the price aside, it's a pretty cool restoration. It may take a while to sell it but there is some deep-pocketed person out there who will buy it.

On second thought - it's really no longer an AS - just the outside shell is. Everything else is custom built. Considering the costs of custom work, the price may not be that far out of line. Look at custom mohos. They go for some pretty steep prices. We're just used to AS price tags that are much lower.

The person who buys it wont be a camper staying at your neighborhood KOA. They will be someone in the movie or fashion industry who wants luxury accomodations on location.

The eBay write-up was ridiculous though - burnt red skies - give me a break!
Exactly my thoughts. Matthew McConaghy owns at least a couple of Airstreams. That's the type of person this unit is targeting.

Overall, I think it's beautiful. Obviously, it's not practical-- but, I don't think that was ever the intent of the restorers.
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:43 AM   #33
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I really liked the little plastic army guys in the trailer. Now I wish I had kept mine, I could put them in my trailer. I wonder if they fall over while traveling?
What do you mean traveling? Will that trailer actually be on the road?

Or maybe you mean if you had them in yours...yeah, that's it.

I agree with Lewster, there isn't that much "high-end" stuff in there. Certainly not $140,000 worth. For that much, they must have also included the cost of the herbal remedy used to sooth themselves while making sure that "Not one detail has been missed".
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Whaddaya reckon he needed a light in the floor of the wet bath for?
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Old 03-20-2008, 01:21 PM   #35
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:40 PM   #36
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My thoughts were the southern California celebrity or recording mogul is/or should be the target for this type of conversion. I have seen several programs, including "Made in America" that said Hollywood's elite buy vintage Airstreams and spend over $100k on the custom conversions so this probably isn't that far out of line in that kind of market. Just remember, that "Hatbox" toilet cost more than $5,000 and the Gaganau (?) oven is more than $7,000 and induction cook tops run between $2,500 and $3,000. If the other details are in the same price line, $140,000 may not be too far out there.

I agree, that is not the kind of restoration that most of us here are into, but there is a market for it somewhere. Someone with the taste and intelligence to pull this kind of high end design off doesn't do it on a whim, they know there is someone out there. I am, however, surprised that he thinks he'll find them on e-bay...but then, you can find anything on e-bay!
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Old 03-20-2008, 03:13 PM   #37
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spray-on insulation in mega-$-AS

@ silvertwinkie
I just verified with my brother (sales-/tech consultant in the building industry, roofing, insulation etc.) that spray-on insulation foam can be had in all sorts of variants.
The techn. parameters (elasticity (sp?) etc.) can be adjusted. The foam could be mixed to be stiff-brittle and solid, foamy-soft, elastic and lots of versions in between.
Today.

When AS tested it (see Andy's reference) it might have been impossible to adjust the foam or they tried to stabalize the shell with it (which requires a stiffer version).
In short:
I would not rule out foam to insulate an AS - if I had access to the right equipment / know-how. The conventional insulation, however, will be cheaper and - given the poor thermal design of AS TTs (door + window frames, rips with little to no thermal breaks; single-pane windows etc.) - I doubt that spray foam would be worth the hassle.

Still a nice trailer
The potential buyer will IMHO probably prefer to have HIS TT at this amount of $

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Old 03-20-2008, 04:02 PM   #38
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I really liked the little plastic army guys in the trailer. Now I wish I had kept mine, I could put them in my trailer. I wonder if they fall over while traveling?
Got ya covered!

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Old 03-20-2008, 04:14 PM   #39
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Uhhh...

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Whaddaya reckon he needed a light in the floor of the wet bath for?
A) Mood
B) Trimming toenails
C) Entertainment
D) all of the above
E) none of the above

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Old 03-20-2008, 05:31 PM   #40
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Renovation vs Restoration

Interestingly enough, weíve all been calling this project a restoration (myself included.) The truth is itís a renovation.

A restoration is when someone goes through great lengths to restore the object (here itís an AS) to itís original condition. It involves a lot of work and effort to carefully disassemble, repair and reassemble to preserve the original design and function. Often folks restoring an AS will go as far as to find fabrics true to the period and even things like turquoise melamine dishes to go in it! In short, itís breathing new life into a bit of history. I have a lot of respect for people who will go through this kind of effort to restore a vintage trailer. Granted, there may be replacement of some systems to restore function, the intent is still to preserve the classic designs of that period in time.

MObi on the other hand is a renovation - a total gut job that bears absolutely no resemblance to the original unit. Granted, itís pretty cool in many ways, but it still totally destroyed the original integrity of the design - forever. And yes... high end finishes and appliances are very expensive. No doubt he has $125K in it.

Hats off to those vintage owners who respect the original design and work to restore it to that period in time.

Renovation vs restoration - enough said.
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