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02-03-2019, 12:51 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
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NADA values are also low for cars and trucks and when you are trading in a vehicle, dealers will show you the NADA values. I show them Edmunds and Kelly's Blue Book's values which are generally higher as well as newspaper ads (theirs are best). When I checked the NADA value for my Airstream it was about 40% of what I got for it when I sold it. I had two buyers at the same time, so I should have asked for a bit more.
NADA is a dealers' organization and simply does what dealers want. If you buy a used car from them, they won't show you the NADA book.
Banks loaning on an RV probably know very little about them and getting used vehicle values on RV's requires a lot of research. Just looking at NADA is easy—RV loans are a small part of their business. Insurance companies have more experience with RV's, but they only want premiums and do not want to pay damages so they will use NADA. It often requires fighting with all of them to get what you deserve.
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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02-03-2019, 03:16 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1997 25' Safari
mastic beach
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 85
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I use AARP's insurance, The Hartford. I told them what the trailer was worth over the phone, '97 Safari, added $2,000.- and they gave me a quote. No hassles.
There was a roughly $10,000.- claim for bodywork for the replacement of 3 outside panels the insurance company took care of, no problem. They did come in a little lower than the AS dealer wanted but the insurance co. quickly came up with the right amount.
Mike
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02-04-2019, 08:14 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 20' Flying Cloud
Williamson County
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 817
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This topic drifted a bit, so I will just add my relevant insurance experience. We have a policy with Allstate, and the coverage is $77,000 for replacement of our 2017 20' FC FB if totaled. I asked about how they determine that since we paid $61,000 +tax/lic. Apparently the policy will buy a new replacement because it is a recent year model and reducing our coverage to what we paid would not save that much anyway. Imagine we will have to review the terms every year to see exactly what the coverage is.
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02-04-2019, 02:32 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2013 20' Flying Cloud
2014 16' Sport
2019 23' Flying Cloud
Dunedin
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2014
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I bought my 2013 20' FC BAmbi for $44,400 last year. It is insured for $59,000 replacement value.!
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03-17-2019, 06:31 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2018 27' Flying Cloud
Carnation
, Washington
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 24
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Given none of us put any faith in the NADA, KBB, or Edmunds numbers then what is an acceptable means of estimating modern trailer values for models 2010 and newer?
I completely agree that appraisal services are the right course for vintage trailers or establishing value for insurance policies, but before contracting for such a service what is the current thinking around pricing or depreciation?
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03-18-2019, 08:51 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Commercial Member
1954 22' Flying Cloud
2017 30' Classic
Currently Looking...
Ojai
, CA
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 156
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I appraise as many modern trailers as Vintage. I continue to work with the JD Powers folks who own NADA however their primary interest will always be Automobiles. Please feel free to give me a call, I can help with many questions with a brief phone call.
James Polk ASA PE 805 646 7293
jamespolk@polkvaluations.com
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03-18-2019, 04:38 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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When we sold our Airstream, I checked what people were asking on the Forum. You can see like trailers tend to cluster around a price point and when they sell, you can get an idea what yours is worth. You can also check listings of trailers for sale by dealers, especially the larger ones. Those may be inflated considerably compared to what people actually pay. However, convincing an insurance company is another thing. I suspect insurers will accept dealer prices more often than the asking prices on the Forum.
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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07-09-2020, 12:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pond
I use AARP's insurance, The Hartford. I told them what the trailer was worth over the phone, '97 Safari, added $2,000.- and they gave me a quote. No hassles.
There was a roughly $10,000.- claim for bodywork for the replacement of 3 outside panels the insurance company took care of, no problem. They did come in a little lower than the AS dealer wanted but the insurance co. quickly came up with the right amount.
Mike
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Mike are you still happy with your AARP Hartford insurance? If you feel like it, could also please comment in this new thread:
https://www.airforums.com/forums/f35...ce-210979.html
Thanks,
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07-09-2020, 02:08 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 31' Sovereign
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,017
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I hope that Allstate rv ins is better than home owners. Last fall our area had severe hail damage roofs and sides all were damaged. All homes were fixed except very few by Allstate, claimed not enough damage to fix even tho you could see heavy dents in sidings and shingles large pock marks even some missing.
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