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Old 07-29-2018, 08:43 AM   #41
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Indeed a lot of this is no different than the price of crude oil doing a bump up. It takes weeks / months for that to actually get to the pump. Go out to buy gas the day after it's in the news and all the gas stations have higher prices .... It's a excuse .... Like any excuse it only works if you let it. If you stop buying Coke when the price jumps, guess what the price does. ( Obviously with gas and beer the dynamic may be a bit different .... you *can* do without Coke ...).

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And good beer still comes in glass bottles....
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Old 07-29-2018, 11:22 AM   #43
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And good beer still comes in glass bottles....


A lot of great beer is available in cans these days, thankfully. As a can is much easier to travel with than bottles. Less weight both directions, and they fit better in my small fridge...and the cooler is more manageable when. Most Western microbreweries include canning in their distribution, as it is probably a better package for stability than a bottle due to light exposure...and they can fit 2X as many in the same shelf space in the store.
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A lot of great beer is available in cans these days, thankfully. As a can is much easier to travel with than bottles. Less weight both directions, and they fit better in my small fridge...and the cooler is more manageable when. Most Western microbreweries include canning in their distribution, as it is probably a better package for stability than a bottle due to light exposure...and they can fit 2X as many in the same shelf space in the store.
And to add to that, most festivals do not allow glass in the gates.
I know I have worked the gate at some events and it is a shame we have to confiscate all that awesome brew in bottles.
Too many idiots break bottles or throw them in the fire pit, somebody has to clean it up, or it will be there for centuries to come.
OK, Off my soap box and getting another sip of Corona (in a bottle)
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Coca-Cola just raised prices of coke in cans citing rising cost of aluminum.
Although I still like classic Coke the best, I lost all respect for their management when they thought it was a good idea to come out with “New Coke”, a.k.a. repackaged Pepsi.
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Although I still like classic Coke the best, I lost all respect for their management when they thought it was a good idea to come out with “New Coke”, a.k.a. repackaged Pepsi.
Classic Coke was the beginning of the transition to HFCS from sugar, that's what everyone should of raised hell about....
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From recent statistics the import tariff is 10%. From the research I have done, Canada and Mexico are exempt fro that tariff. Together they account for just over 40% of the imported aluminum into the US.

The largest imports of Alumium into thu US come from Canada followed by China. China’s imports are in the low 15% range. All other importers of Aluminum are single digit %’s except for Canada.

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thanks for getting us back on track Jack. Good info.
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From recent statistics the import tariff is 10%. From the research I have done, Canada and Mexico are exempt fro that tariff. Together they account for just over 40% of the imported aluminum into the US.

The largest imports of Alumium into thu US come from Canada followed by China. China’s imports are in the low 15% range. All other importers of Aluminum are single digit %’s except for Canada.

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I think you may be incorrect in your assessment, this came up regionally in the PacNW regarding the potential impact to our craft beer pricing.

https://www.opb.org/news/article/tru...on-washington/

The tariffs are spelled out here:
https://www.cbp.gov/trade/programs-a...inum-and-steel
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COUNTRIES COVERED BY SECTION 232 IMPORT DUTIES

Please note that the Section 232 measures are based on the country of origin, not the country of export.

Steel

As of June 1, 2018: All countries of origin except Argentina, Australia, Brazil, and South Korea.

Aluminum

As of June 1, 2018: All countries of origin except Argentina and Australia.
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To put this in some sort of perspective, over the last year, aluminum has bounced from around $0.85 per pound to a very brief peak just below $1.20. For most of the period it's bounced between $0.90 and $1.00 per pound. Simply put, a change of 10% in the price of aluminum is in the "stuff happens" range ....

If the entire weight of your 7,000 pound AS was aluminum, the raw cost would be about $7,000 for that. It obviously is not pure aluminum. It's also not made of ingots, but from processed sheets that cost a bit more. A 10% increase in aluminum would boost your trailer cost by <$700.

There's also the .... errr ... minor point ... that you don't buy an AS for raw parts cost. Surprise !! There's a markup between raw parts and your handing over a check. Even if that inflates things by 2X, it's still not a big deal. The biggest risk is still that somebody sees it as an opportunity to charge more.

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