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Old 01-14-2022, 03:16 PM   #1
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Maintenance Fund - How Much?

Hey there! Picking up a 22' Caravel this weekend - How much money should we be setting aside for a maintenance fund? Thinking of both for routine maintenance, as well as a set aside for those situations that can sometimes take us by surprise.


Any insight into a) whether you have a maintenance fund, b) if so, how much would be greatly appreciated! Tried finding a similar post on this but was unsuccessful. Thanks!
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Old 01-14-2022, 04:00 PM   #2
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Wombat69,

Sorry no suggestion on $$ for repairs etc. But I do have a suggestion on how to keep it down a bit more.

Read or review every single operational based manufacturers manual that comes with the rig. Open every cabinet take a good light and look for what's in/under/behind. If you need to get with a RV mentor and test all functions and hookups. Start an Airstream folder in your device of choice and when you stumble on a digital manual that you don't have, download it.

And even it The Lone Star State was it last year it got hit with a storm and many folks got froze cause they didn't or didn't know how to winterize and stuff froze.

Safe travels and welcome from The Palmetto State.

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Old 01-14-2022, 04:03 PM   #3
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If it's new, you have a 3 year warranty. It's been my experience that the best work done on our Airstreams has been at the factory in Jackson Center, Ohio.

I'd recommend enough money for gas, food, etc. to travel to Jackson Center at minimum once each year for those 3 years of the warranty.

Take care of your batteries, and you should have little expense in the first three years other than black/grey tank treatment, and the usual expenses of food, campground rent, etc.

Propane expense will depend on usage.

Of course, if you're like me, you'll buy all kinds of goodies, tools, hoses, x-chocks, etc. etc. etc.

I'm interested to see what others have to say....good question!
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Old 01-14-2022, 04:13 PM   #4
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Hey there! Picking up a 22' Caravel this weekend - How much money should we be setting aside for a maintenance fund? Thinking of both for routine maintenance, as well as a set aside for those situations that can sometimes take us by surprise.


Any insight into a) whether you have a maintenance fund, b) if so, how much would be greatly appreciated! Tried finding a similar post on this but was unsuccessful. Thanks!
Doing your own work, or paying for all labor? The first I can help with, second not so much.
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Old 01-14-2022, 07:51 PM   #5
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Greetings from the Florida Panhandle

First off, welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us. Your post is a little bit confusing. The placement of you apostrophe raises a question. Is your Caravel a 2022 model, or is your Caravel a 1960 22 foot model???


Either way, you can handle most maintenance and repair items. Over our sixteen years of Airstreaming, we have found that we can maintain and repair most things ourselves.


Between these Forums and YouTube, you've got this covered. Doing most things yourself will keep costs way down. We have found that if we can do the the job, we can do it better than most RV techs at dealerships.


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Old 01-14-2022, 08:55 PM   #6
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Can’t help much with the budgeting process, but in addition to the significant cost savings I can give you two more reasons to become DIY capable:

1) lead times for getting service appointments are getting ridiculously long; you could lose several outings waiting for professional service, and

2) problems will arise while you are on the road, and especially out west you could find yourself a long way from anywhere.

It’s really not that hard to do, and is just part of the adventure. Best wishes……..
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Old 01-15-2022, 10:22 AM   #7
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Hi

With a 3 year warranty, you should have a pretty good idea of what things cost by the time it's up. As noted above, what you stash away depends a lot on how the "fix up" will be done.

It's rare for a single item ( = appliance) on a trailer to cost over $5,000. Like the trailer it's self, these items have their own warranty so who knows when they could be an issue.

If you drive a lot, you could wear out a set of tires. For most they "time out" at 6 years. You then get to decide how fancy a tire you want to put on.

If you have lead acid batteries and want to keep them above 80% capacity (few actually test this and know their capacity) then that's a every few years sort of thing. Could be 3 years, could be 7 years. It depends on a lot of things.

Brakes do wear out. At a random shop in a pinch, that could be a $400 a wheel sort of thing. Parts to do it yourself are a small fraction of that.

Past that .... who knows.

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Nothing - we do 98% of our own work on the AS. Born to be a DYIer. Continued maintenance and checking issue before they become a problem is the key. There are hundreds of YouTube Videos on trailer maintenance and "fixing stuff" - realize that all the appliances, furnace, bit and pieces etc. used in an AS are found is basically ALL trailers. When we look at an AS were are really talking design and build - not parts.
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Old 01-15-2022, 10:33 AM   #9
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I do my own repairs as needed. I had to replace both of the little fans (bathroom and shower) new tires, and repair a broken HDMI line in six years of ownership. You probably should plan on replacing a few rivets (Harbor Freight for tool and rivets) in other words don't stress, you should not have any big expenses. We are just north of you, I blow the waterlines out and drain the H water heater but heat with a space heater on the coldest days (below 26) for extra protection. I only add the pink antifreeze to the drains.
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$100.00 a month. Over a 10 year life, will pay for tires, AC unit, etc.. when they need replacement, the remaining will go towards replacement of trailer if that is in the cards after 10 years.

Always good to be ahead of the game of life, whenever possible.
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Old 01-15-2022, 12:29 PM   #11
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We don't.

However, I spent much (too much?) time in the world of private schools. Best practice advises setting aside three percent of the total replacement cost of the facility and equipment into a PPRRSM fund. Provision for plant replacement, renewal, and special maintenance. The fund for a $100,000 trailer would get $3000 per year, increasing as the replacement cost increases due to inflation. All repairs, upgrades, remodeling, and the eventual replacement come out of that fund. Seems like a lot money, except when you consider the possibility of a new trailer 10 years from now. It just might pay the difference between trade-in and the cost of a new one.

But as I said, we don't.
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Old 01-15-2022, 12:31 PM   #12
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Wombat69,
While the earlier responses are on the mark, the posters may not have seen your other thread, which describes plans to rent out the unit as an AirBNB. Expect higher costs, especially for propane, when the occupants are treating it like a hotel room. You may want to budget for a jumbo size propane tank, to reduce your trips to the local refiller.
Also read through the owner's manual. There are several rejoinders about using the trailer as a residence. This may affect warranty coverage.
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Yup spotted that “additional info” after I posted. That certainly can be a factor.

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Wombat69,
While the earlier responses are on the mark, the posters may not have seen your other thread, which describes plans to rent out the unit as an AirBNB. Expect higher costs, especially for propane, when the occupants are treating it like a hotel room. You may want to budget for a jumbo size propane tank, to reduce your trips to the local refiller.
Also read through the owner's manual. There are several rejoinders about using the trailer as a residence. This may affect warranty coverage.
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If this is a fast turn rental property (of any sort) plan for a lot of damage. Also plan to get that damage fixed between rentals. Just how you organize to do that is part of the rental process. ( guest moves out on Monday, next one is due in Wednesday ... we need to put on the new fridge door Tuesday )

You have folks who don't understand how to do things in an RV and who may or may not be very careful. If you look at the typical hotel room it is made of very durable / inexpensive stuff. Not so much with the typical home or RV. Stuff down the toilet is just the easy part.

One of the unmentioned "features" of renting something out is the increased rate of depreciation. That's still true after this or that specific issue has been fixed. There is a lot of wear and tear that has it set up for lots of future repairs as well. If you will be using the trailer when it's not rented, that will need to be considered.

Is this saying that you should not rent out? No, most certainly not. It is done by a lot of folks and done successfully. Each one I talk to has slightly different approaches to dealing with this and that. Their methods fit their situation. The only point is that part of that rent ( at least 10% ) will go into DIY repairs done on a quick basis. For fast repairs by a third party, you will first need to find that third party ....

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$100.00 a month. Over a 10 year life, will pay for tires, AC unit, etc.. when they need replacement, the remaining will go towards replacement of trailer if that is in the cards after 10 years.

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Wow, this is all some really helpful information to go off; y'all make for a great group


Thanks again and have a great weekend!
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Either $100 a month as Boondocker said or one BILLIEEEON dollars total as Dr. Evil suggested. - Brad
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