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05-16-2007, 06:27 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Ottawa
, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 48
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uneasy airstreamer cryin' again
For those of you who are not familiar with my tale of woe, check out Uneasy Airstreamer thread in the Member Introduction forum. I am too weary to repeat my sad tale of my Airstream ownership thus far. Suffice it to say, it has been too leaky to believe.
I am assuming you are now up to date on its history.
And now I will continue. I went to check out my trailer today in the lot where we store it to see if all was dry inside as it should be...and...
WE HAVE ANOTHER LEAK!!!!
We can't use it, we can't sell it...all we can do is pay for it!
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05-16-2007, 07:29 PM
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1 Rivet Member 
1972 31' Sovereign
Encino
, California
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 10
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It sounds like you financed your purchase... If you bought it from a dealer, go to the bank, tell them you bought a lemon and must return it, cancel the loan, etc. See what they say. Cut your losses and buy an older Airstream.
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05-16-2007, 07:47 PM
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Rivet Master 

2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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Anne, sorry to hear this is still happening. I did have leaks over a window and from the toilet exhaust fan that the dealer sealed effectively the first time. I didn't get the skylight option. Other easy sources could be from any of the windows, door, Fantastic Fan, air conditioner and front vent. Are you seeing them from anywhere else?
This is still under warranty in the greatest likelihood. Warranty fix-ups are pretty normal during the first shakedown (literally) season or two. There should be a finite list of causes and it is all the dealer's responsibility. I wrapped up my warranty work just last week after 20 months of ownership and am very happy. Have you had it back to the dealer and are they able to address these issues? How close is your dealer?
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05-16-2007, 08:14 PM
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Moderator

1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,091
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Sorry to hear that. Bob is right, keep dragging it back there until they beat all the bugs out of it.
So where is it leaking now?
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05-16-2007, 08:27 PM
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Rivet Master 
Currently Looking...
Florissant
, USA
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,083
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An older coach isn't necessarily the answer. I have a trailer that was refurbished partially by David Winnick, and it leaks. There is vulkem everywhere, and it leaks. I have no idea why, and am pretty upset considering the sizeable amount. I cant camp in it unless it isnt raining. I also need to find somewhere indoors to keep it so it stays dry.
Steve
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05-17-2007, 08:09 AM
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Rivet Master 
Commercial Member
1957 30' Sovereign of the Road
1959 28' Ambassador
1949 24' Limited
Peru
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 741
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Greetings all,
Just in case you all don't know this yet,...............they all leak, no matter what anyone says. We are in the process of replacing the rear floor area in a 02 22' Airstream at the moment. It has an OSB floor (wood chips glued together) which swells when water is applied. Why Airstream decided to build with this garbage is anyones guess. Anyway, We have a machine called a "Sealtech 430R" that we use to detect leaks. It is basically a very large squirrel cage fan & duct arrangement that sucks air in through one of the ceiling vents & pressurizes (low pressure) the interior of the trailer. Then we spray a soap solution all over the exterior of the trailer & watch for bubbles forming. We used this machine on the 02 & found several leaks in the rear end roof area that have probably been there since new.
Another client brought in his 61 Bambi several weeks ago for an axle replacement & he told me "my trailer doesn't leak". We ran the machine on it & found that virtually every seam blew bubbles. We called it the "inverted sieve". We sealed it up with vulkem & retested & found a few other minor leaks. It is now leak free! We will test it again next year as part of the ongoing routine maintenance. Floor rot destroys these trailers in a very short time!
Colin
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05-17-2007, 08:53 AM
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Rivet Master 
1958 30' Sovereign of the Road
Plymouth
, New York
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,776
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Here Here Colin!
The 1958 SOTR, leaks from Colin - that is because we are polishing it and have not sealed the seams yet - and it'll be parked in a barn until completed too! I know where the leaks are coming in, and if we do take it out, you bet I will have a towel sitting there. I am thankful Colin soaked the new ply in weather seal, and that its real ply - not this OSB stuff. Once we seal it, you can bet I take it to Colin for this test! A few hundred dollar test to prevent lose of a $40k trailer - you bet!
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05-17-2007, 08:56 AM
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Patriotic

1973 23' Safari
North of Boston
, Massachusetts
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 4,546
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Hey, Colin:
what's it cost for this type of diagnostic service?
I wonder if there is any kind of "home-brew" method for pressurizing the interior, for those of us who are (either too cheap, or) too far away from such a machine.
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05-17-2007, 09:15 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
1976 Argosy 24
Tempe
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 326
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one exception to "they all leak" - my Argosy is tight as a drum... the PO lived in Illinois and it has enough rust on the outside to indicate that it was not stored indoors. The interior is without evidence of any leaks. and yes - i am nearly done in removing all of the exterior rust.
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05-17-2007, 09:15 AM
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Rivet Master 
Airstream Dealer
1975 31' Sovereign
Searcy
, Arkansas
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,714
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Can we see pictures of your leaky unit???
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877-247-4641
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05-17-2007, 09:51 AM
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Rivet Master 
Airstream Dealer
1975 31' Sovereign
Searcy
, Arkansas
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,714
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We use a Seal Tech machine here to find leaks...It pressurizes the cabin and the guys spray a soapy liquid around problem areas from the outside...bubbles appear where the leaks are so it really helps us to narrow down our search and pinpoint the problem area...
You might check and see if your dealer in Canada has one of these or can get his hands on one.
G
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05-17-2007, 10:02 AM
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Rivet Master 
1979 30' Argosy
Havelock
, where we park it
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,652
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Hello...We did our own home version of the leak test.. Hubby was on the inside of the trailer and I was on the outside with the soapy water.. he had the aircompressor and used it going around the front window where we knew there was a leak but could not track it down.. worked like a dream.. We will use the same method for Costalotta 2 when we start the redo next week..
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Niki (fur baby)
1979 Argosy 30 (Costalotta)
WBCCI 10103
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05-17-2007, 10:17 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2002 22' International CCD
San Luis Obispo
, California
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 417
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hmmmm.... just wondering..... Could we turn both of our Fantastic Fans to "in" and pressurize the AS enough for the leak test to work? Wouldn't a great deal of the pressurized air exit through large openings like the refrigerator vents and furnace vent? Or would the fans produce enough air pressure for leaking seams to show with a bubble test? What do you think?
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2002 22' CCD
2008 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi
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05-17-2007, 10:27 AM
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Rivet Master 
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,077
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wbrownrr
hmmmm.... just wondering..... Could we turn both of our Fantastic Fans to "in" and pressurize the AS enough for the leak test to work? Wouldn't a great deal of the pressurized air exit through large openings like the refrigerator vents and furnace vent? Or would the fans produce enough air pressure for leaking seams to show with a bubble test? What do you think?
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I have used a electric leaf blower on a boat, works great.
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2005 Safari 25 SS Traded
1968 Globetrotter Sold
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05-17-2007, 10:39 AM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,475
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Sorry to hear about all the problems you've had with your new unit. I know some things can happen in transit, but I have to say this...given the number of leaks you've had, I question seriously if the factory's leak test is all that great and or if the QC crew is out to lunch. One person on the forums went to see theirs built. On the QC checklist they checked several things on the sheet that the unit either didn't have or wasn't inspected, yet checkmarked "good to go". As an example, the nameplate on the end caps, checkmarked on and straight, yet there was no name lettering on the coach at all................
Mine had a leak too that the current test didn't catch that was caused by the folks on the line not caulking the wheel well.
I myself have been fairly disappointed in both my 2003 and 2004 Airstreams for a number of reasons. I think the comment that was made, dump the current unit and get a vintage makes the most sense to me. At least you know you'll put some work into it and know what to expect. It's just downright shameful what I see happening to your unit and the many other units in the QC threads I've read about.
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05-17-2007, 11:04 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
1972 23' Safari
Placitas
, New Mexico
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 305
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My '72 leaked in a couple of places after it was stripped and re-clearcoated because of the heat damage from the fire on the movie set. Oasis who did the strip and re-clearcoat said that they had sealed all the seams but I guess they missed a few places. I was extremely fortunate that Lewster was staying here when it came back and he could re-vulkem the leaky spots. It does take a certain touch. Now, it's tight as a drum. For a situation as bad as the one described I'd guess the rig is probably a lemon.
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05-17-2007, 12:35 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Ottawa
, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 48
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It seems to be leaking from the top of the front window, down through the screen and we had little drops of water hanging from the bottom ledge of the window, one on the left and one on the right. Nice and symetrical.
Oh yeah, and the carpet is wet again.
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05-17-2007, 12:47 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Ottawa
, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 48
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We are just a ten minute drive to the dealer and to pick up our trailer and haul it to there takes maybe forty minutes. They have been really good about all this but the service guy looked very depressed when we turned up there yesterday and told him about the new leak.
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05-17-2007, 12:57 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Ottawa
, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 48
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I'll see if I can dig a picture up and then I'll see if I can put it up. I am a novice with this stuff.
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05-17-2007, 01:04 PM
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New Member
Toronto
, Ontario
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1
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sealing a leaky AS
I saw the interesting response from Arkansa AS on using a special appliance to locate and seal AS leaks. I am still searching for my "perfect" AS. I was not aware until today that AS trailers suffer from leaks also. I just looked at one recently (a 1987) and decided to pass on it after noticing the leaks. My concern based on my previous ownership of two non-AS trailers that developed leaks, is that there is more to fixing a leak than just sealing the leak. In my case, it resulted in floor and wall damage, mold and wet insulation. I replaced all of that and got rid of the mold after airing it out and washing with chlorine. No one has mentioned that as being a part of an AS leak fix/repair? Would the insulation on an AS not get wet and create mould within the two walls?
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