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Old 07-26-2005, 01:23 PM   #21
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The bed in the 23' Safari is indeed 48" wide, which makes the rear interior bed & bath design just like the 19' Bambi. This was confirmed by the AS home office.
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Old 07-26-2005, 02:24 PM   #22
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Dang!!!!! If they would just make the beds bigger I would put this right up on my wish list, right below that 25 FB SE LS!!!! Especially if I could get the rear wrap around windows.

I know the bath is in the way, but could they make only half of a wrap around ??? that would be cool on the 19 and 23, but is there something structural that prevents it?

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while in jc last week i did indeed see 2 of the "new" 23s on the line. it is the same shell/platform as the 22. no the 22 is not being replaced but the 23 is a new floor plan using that shell. so like the 30/31 on the classic side.....where the bathroom layout and placement of the kitchen / dinette gives the distinct character to each model.

the 23 has an interesting floor plan and we all liked it......one was nearing the exit door so it was pretty complete. it did seem larger inside than the 22, that coming from the open floor plan like the safari se. those pics on the colonial site are not anything like the actual 23.....i'll have to go through the 100s of pics i took and see if i took some of it.

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Old 08-25-2005, 06:26 AM   #24
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I hope you have some pictures. That would be great! That was a terrible storm you went through too. Those pictures were awesome. Glad you're okay. That's the worst damage in a park I have seen. Pretty scarey stuff.



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while in jc last week i did indeed see 2 of the "new" 23s on the line. it is the same shell/platform as the 22. no the 22 is not being replaced but the 23 is a new floor plan using that shell. so like the 30/31 on the classic side.....where the bathroom layout and placement of the kitchen / dinette gives the distinct character to each model.

the 23 has an interesting floor plan and we all liked it......one was nearing the exit door so it was pretty complete. it did seem larger inside than the 22, that coming from the open floor plan like the safari se. those pics on the colonial site are not anything like the actual 23.....i'll have to go through the 100s of pics i took and see if i took some of it.

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Old 09-05-2005, 08:22 AM   #25
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5,600 Lb. GVWR, 5,600 lb. Axle System, UBW #___, NCC ___, Styled aluminum Wheels, Radial Wall Tires Load Range D, 10” electric Drum Brakes, Manual Hitch Jack, 4 Stabilizer Jacks, Spare Tire Bracket, Double Steel Step.

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Bright Aluminum Finish – White Finish on Roof, Polished Rear Bumper With Storage, Safari Graphics With Chrome Rub Rail Inserts, Safari Medallion, License Plate Bracket, Grab handle, LPG Bottle Cover, Enclosed/Insulated Underbelly, Curb Side and Road Side Awning Rail, Patio Awning Curbside 13’5”, Solar Stoneguard, Main Door, Wrap Protectors, Diamond Plate Exterior Storage Compartment.

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Mini Blind at Galley Window, Full Close-Out Drapes, Except Galley and Bath, Oak Laminate Interior, Real Wood/Steel Drawer Boxes, Overhead Roof locker, Fabric Covered Interior Skin, Entrance Mat, Fabric Valances, Laminate Countertops, Interior Grab Handle, Vinyl Flooring.

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Old 09-05-2005, 08:42 AM   #26
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Dang!!!!! If they would just make the beds bigger I would put this right up on my wish list, right below that 25 FB SE LS!!!! Especially if I could get the rear wrap around windows.

I know the bath is in the way, but could they make only half of a wrap around ??? that would be cool on the 19 and 23, but is there something structural that prevents it?

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You know, a 25' is not much larger in length, a bit larger in width, has dual axles and a bit wider bed (by about 6"). If it were me, and I did, I'd consider the 25' as it is only about 800lbs heavier, but does have the potential to be significantly heavier depending on what you fill it up with....
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Old 09-05-2005, 09:43 AM   #27
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I saw one at my local Airstream dealer on Saturday, while on a spy mission to check out some construction details.
It's like a smaller version of a Safari 25, goucho front, galley center, curbside bed, streetside bath and head.
The sink ( round) is monted in a round cabinet that sticks out from the galley, with rounded doors underneath. Nice design touch.
Otherwise the interior is much like the rest of the Safari line.
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Old 09-05-2005, 11:25 AM   #28
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I'd like to see the 23' with a wet bath.
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Old 10-05-2005, 08:59 PM   #29
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Found this today for those interested in more pics of a 23 footer:

http://www.rvtrader.com/rvdetail191272.htm
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Old 10-05-2005, 11:02 PM   #30
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Did all y'all notice that the propane cover was moved forward on the hitch frame. Looks like the battery would have to be behind it. I wonder why they did that? Is it only on this model or is it going to be this way on all '06's?

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Old 10-05-2005, 11:23 PM   #31
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they moved them forward so that it's easier to hookup weight distrubution saddles on the A frame? The propane cover might have gotten into the way before. It also looks llike it comes with two batteries - there might have not been room forward of the bottles for this...but I think the bottles are just as wide, so I vote for the w/d setup as the answer.
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Old 10-06-2005, 06:23 AM   #32
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Y'know... this is really pretty cool! My very first Airstream was a '70 Safari Special 23'... 3750lbs dry... with almost an identical floorplan! It wasn't short enough to be a "small" trailer, and wasn't long enough to be practical... but it suited our traveling needs well for a bunch of years... AND I bought it for $2k in 1987!
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Old 10-06-2005, 07:46 AM   #33
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Looking closer at the photos, it seems that the propane tanks our 2004 Safari SS are in the same location as it is on this unit.

....and good luck paying $2k for this unit....even ten years from now....though I'll be honest, dealers today having dealt with 3 aren't wheeling and dealing like they were for the 2004 we bought. I would have thought differently given the gas issues and such....thought they'd snap at a sure sale, but alas, looks for now, we're gonna stick with our 25' as is, unless the deals get better....none of the dealers are offering ANY amount off retail with a trade on a special order unit and are quoting me NADA values when clearly you see the dealers advertising used units well above the numbers that are listed in the NADA guides. In 2004 I got what we paid for our 2003 Bambi and Sherry RV offered approx 10-12% off retail on our special order unit.....not this time around under similar circumstances and a better decked out coach to trade.
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:22 AM   #34
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The Dinette Floor Plan 23' 2006 Safari has just arrived at Colonial Airstream if anyone is interested in seeing what one looks like, compared to the L-Lougne and Sofa Models seen earlier.

http://www.colonialairstream.com/newinventory/7883.html
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:28 AM   #35
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Did all y'all notice that the propane cover was moved forward on the hitch frame. Looks like the battery would have to be behind it. I wonder why they did that? Is it only on this model or is it going to be this way on all '06's?

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From the pictures it looks like its in the same place as before. Both my 2001 Safari and my 2004 Classic have the gas bottles in the same exact location. In the 2001 Safari there was a battery box behind the tanks. In the 2004 Classic its an empty storage box although on the new Classics that box seems to contain the components for the disc brake system.

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Old 10-11-2005, 07:04 PM   #36
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I have seen the Bottle Cover Relocated on the 06 22' CCD’s and other 23' Safari’s. I think it makes turning off LP tanks a lot easier with the Lift up Hinged Lid found on the other Airstream trailers. It also appears NOT to interfere with the weight distribution kit or sway control that will have to be installed. In the past one would have to cut or modify the (22’ Safari & CCD) bottle cover to install the proper hitch work.

Pic 2006 International CCD 22'

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Old 10-11-2005, 07:26 PM   #37
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FYI, Speaking of bottle covers...

While I was doing a cursory inspection of my Bambi yesterday, I removed the aluminum bottle cover in order to follow the path of the trailer wiring, and found that there were marks on the inside that indicated the tanks had been rubbing up against it in several palces. I believe if I left it as it was, it would have eventually abraded through the cover. I readjusted the tanks, which were apparently installed off-center by Airstream, covered the contact points with some soft velcro pads, and then repositioned the cover so it was as far away from the tanks as possible. I think I may have averted some future problems.
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Does the "L" Sofa in the Safari 23' make up into a bed like the older gauchos that look similar?
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I see some changes on the other models too. Doorbell on the Classic and decorative vinyl entrance and bath mat on the 25' Safari.
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