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03-22-2006, 07:15 PM
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#201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azflycaster
Uwe or anyone else,
Be honest, have you ever pushed the lines on the fitting only to find out that you had the screw on piece backwards? I did it once, a real pain to take apart again.
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I am going to use your confession as a cautionary and meditate and endeavor to put my pieces on in the right direction when I get to my plumbing. I expect I will put it on backwards exactly 50% of the time.
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03-22-2006, 08:06 PM
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#202
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Site Team

2002 25' Safari
Dewey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcferguson
I am going to use your confession as a cautionary and meditate and endeavor to put my pieces on in the right direction when I get to my plumbing. I expect I will put it on backwards exactly 50% of the time.
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I bet you will only do it once. I was working under the sink on a line I could almost reach  .
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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03-22-2006, 08:09 PM
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#203
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4 Rivet Member 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azflycaster
I bet you will only do it once. I was working under the sink on a line I could almost reach  .
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fly,
3/8" or 1/2" pex there? Which kind of pex?
c
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03-22-2006, 08:13 PM
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#204
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2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
, California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azflycaster
Uwe or anyone else,
Be honest, have you ever pushed the lines on the fitting only to find out that you had the screw on piece backwards? I did it once, a real pain to take apart again.
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Confession time:
nut backwards on pex - 0
nut in drawer, pex on barb - 3-4 times
flare nut on bench, copper flare finished and perfect - 2-3 times
flare nut on, but bent tubng too close to flare - 3 times
decent knowledge of english language swear words - priceless!
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03-22-2006, 08:17 PM
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#205
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Site Team

2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcferguson
fly,
3/8" or 1/2" pex there? Which kind of pex?
c
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It's 3/8". Not sure what the PO used, but the pieces I replaced were Flexpex. I got the parts from http://www.pexconnection.com
I had to correct the problem of the city water line being connect to the hot water line. In my previous post you can see where I used a straight couple (on the right). That is where the ciry water line was T'd.
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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03-22-2006, 08:48 PM
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#206
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast

1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
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Location: I currently do not own a 2nd Airstream
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JC ~
On your plumbing drawing, I would also add a built in pressure regulator on the city water side. Put it just after the city hook up and before the PEX. This way you'll never have to worry about the thing staying on the hose all of the time. Save yourself the headache.
Brad
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03-22-2006, 08:55 PM
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#207
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2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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I second Brad's suggestion.
I put one in as well, right by the city water hose adapter. Those small ones are hard to find. I got mine off ebay, NOS.
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03-22-2006, 08:58 PM
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2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
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A water heater bypass would be a good thing to consider also.
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03-22-2006, 10:22 PM
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Keep em' coming you guys, I'm on it! Regulator bypass and a reverse flair pex nut. I'm gonna have water everywhere.
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03-22-2006, 10:50 PM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast

1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
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Not a regulator bypass but a city water pressure regulator. The pressure of normal city supplied water without the regulator will cause water everywhere. Not a good thing in that lovely wooden interior.
Brad
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03-23-2006, 07:11 AM
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1 Rivet Member 
1964 22' Safari
Cary
, North Carolina
Join Date: Mar 2006
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I can be of no assistance in the design of the toilet, but I can help with the naming of it!
the:
"Pop-up Poop-down"
"Carlos-Can"
"Hide-a-dump"
"Black Drawer"
"Area 51 and 2"
"Turdis"
Thats all i got right now.
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03-23-2006, 08:29 AM
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Turdis! That is pure genius. I will get a long scarf to wear when I use it.
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03-23-2006, 11:09 AM
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Addicted to Aluminum
1959 18' "Footer"
1964 24' Tradewind
1954 29' Liner
Woodstock
, Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2005
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plumbing connections...
hey guys, i'm in a plumbing mood on my trade wind as well... i noticed you guys are using the flare fittings, rather than the crimp tool... which i already bought... did i waste my money? is there an advantage to the flare versus the crimp fittings?
i'm planning on learning all i can on the trade wind before i do it right in the '59! ha!
jp
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03-23-2006, 11:13 AM
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Waste your money? You mean beyond the thousands already poured into your project? Ha! I am watching my savings "sublimate" like ice on a spring day.
So I say go for it, and if I lived nearer I would be over at your house doing my plumbing. From all the searching I have done, it seems the crimper is "better", but more expensive for the tool.
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03-23-2006, 11:24 AM
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Addicted to Aluminum
1959 18' "Footer"
1964 24' Tradewind
1954 29' Liner
Woodstock
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ha! i hear ya, man! aluminum doesn't burn... but it burns money!
i got the crimpers with the aluminum handle... why not?  seriously, though i guess the only downside would be ease of repair at a campsite with the crimpers vs the screw ons... and as far as price is concerned, those flare fittings add up... i bet it'll end up costing the same, amortized over 2 trailers, anyway...
did you see my plumbing post? i started one about the same time you asked. ha! here it is:
http://www.airforums.com/forum...ind-21471.html
jp
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03-23-2006, 06:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Merry-Can
ha! i hear ya, man! aluminum doesn't burn... but it burns money!
i got the crimpers with the aluminum handle... why not?  seriously, though i guess the only downside would be ease of repair at a campsite with the crimpers vs the screw ons... and as far as price is concerned, those flare fittings add up... i bet it'll end up costing the same, amortized over 2 trailers, anyway...
did you see my plumbing post? i started one about the same time you asked. ha! here it is:
http://www.airforums.com/forum...ind-21471.html
jp
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Just two trailers? C'mon...
That diagram is just what I needed. This forum needs a Wiki for all these different systems so that beginners can just look at a collection of systems operations.
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03-23-2006, 06:20 PM
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#217
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Drawer
My kitchen spaces are populating, these will be the main storage drawers for pots and pans and such. The bottom drawer on the left might be big enough for a rubbish bin and recycle thingy.
The larger drawers on the right have dados so that I can slip a piece of plywood in to divide the space if I want. If I would have though of that earlier, the stack on the left would have them as well.
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03-23-2006, 06:22 PM
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#218
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dinette details
These are some details of the dinette design.
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03-23-2006, 08:36 PM
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Rivet Master 
1976 25' Tradewind
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Shower Plans?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcferguson
I had thought about a copper shower pan (I could solder it myself with a torch - I don't have a mig or tig welder which means stainless would require help).
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The copper pan sounds great. But I would use fiberglass or plastic for weight. A Google of 'antique shower rods' revealed some nice round and oval shapes but do you want to clutter up the interior with a shower? What are your plans?
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03-23-2006, 10:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastrob
The copper pan sounds great. But I would use fiberglass or plastic for weight. A Google of 'antique shower rods' revealed some nice round and oval shapes but do you want to clutter up the interior with a shower? What are your plans?
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Well, I need some kind of get-me-clean space, as this will be a live-in for a lot of the time. I could make a tub on the left side of the dinette and just have a toilet by the door under the counter. Or it could be a full wet bath, or some sort of collapse-able wet bath. I am still trying to have a flash of inspiration about this. Come on, flash. Ok, now. Flash.
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