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Old 05-03-2021, 11:55 PM   #1
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USB type charging plugs in 2021 Airstreams

We are getting a 2022 Airstream Globetrotter later this year. Our last Airstream had USB-A ports, however almost all new devices are requiring USB-C. Do the newer Airstreams now have USB-C or are they still using the older USB-A type plugs.

Not a deal breaker as there are always adapters, I just wanted to know if Airstream had made the change yet.
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Old 05-04-2021, 04:09 AM   #2
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Our 2021 does not have USB-Cs but maybe the ‘22s will.
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Old 05-04-2021, 05:48 AM   #3
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You are going to end up with something like this:

https://smile.amazon.com/Upgraded-Ba...-no-redirect=1

The ports they use have incoming 12V from the batteries and the ports reduce it down to the 5 volts needed for any USB device. It is quick and cheap....also, even though USB-C is becoming more popular since Android and now Apple coming on board....there are still tons of USB-A devices that are still around that far exceed USB-C. I think they are accounting for the legacy devices. I still use a Galaxy S9+ which is USB-C, but the original cords are still A to C that came with it....I'd be hard pressed to dump those to go and get a C to C wire unless I had no other choice.

It would be nice though if AS where to put one of each side by side to keep pace with the emerging technology.....I would have recommended something like that if I made the Ambassador cut.....but like many others...was not asked....

As you mentioned...the adapters are small and cheap...and replaceable going forward if you find you can replace it yourself.
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Old 05-04-2021, 07:30 AM   #4
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I added a new port to my 2020 International that is a combo USB-C and USB-A (QC 3.0). I’m thinking of swapping the factory port in the nightstand for one of the new dual ports also.
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Old 05-04-2021, 11:03 AM   #5
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Purchase a USB-A to USB-C adapter. Real expensive-- about $2.00. Then you can use either type of USB. Look on AMAZON, I have several adapters to use on my or others computers/tablets/telephones
that do not have a USB-C connection. They work just fine for charging as well.
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Old 05-04-2021, 11:24 AM   #6
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If you want to have the full functionality of the high speed USB C connection you can always swap out the devices. We have been using these in new construction, has one of each and available in many colors. It's the perfect solution to what will likely be a slow, gradual migration to USB-C. Of course they will only fit a standard size box so locations in a TT may be limited.
When you ask if AS is using the newer stuff it reminds me of how long it took the car manufacturers to quit selling us new cars with tape decks in them.
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Old 05-04-2021, 04:11 PM   #7
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Well I just got a new Samsung tablet about 3 months ago, it came with a USB-A charger and a USB-A to USB-C cable and warned not to use anything else to charge it. So if the high tech manufacturers haven't changed over yet why would you expect Airstream to make the change?
EDIT This was a few weeks after Samsung announced they would no longer supply chargers with their phones.
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Well I just got a new Samsung tablet about 3 months ago, it came with a USB-A charger and a USB-A to USB-C cable and warned not to use anything else to charge it. So if the high tech manufacturers haven't changed over yet why would you expect Airstream to make the change?
EDIT This was a few weeks after Samsung announced they would no longer supply chargers with their phones.
Not sure why they would say that, I've had no issues charging my 2 year old Samsung phone with USB-C to USB-C. If I use a USB-A to USB-C setup, depending on the charger, it will sometimes tell me I am not using the recommended charger and it will take longer to charge but nothing bad happens, and it does not warn of anything bad. We've been installing the USB-C wall outlets for at least 5 years now.
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Old 05-04-2021, 11:32 PM   #10
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Ok thanks for the feedback. It was just wishful thinking on my part. All of my vehicles now have USB-C ports. My current laptops, current iPad and probably the next iPhone will all be USB-C. I really like the C ports not just because of the enhanced speed but also because of the convenience when plugging in.

The A ports always have to be perfectly aligned and right side up. For me this usually results in three attempts to plug them in. First time I have the connector the right side up but slightly misaligned. So I make a second attempt by turning the plug over only o find that I had it right in the first place so I have to make a third attempt. USB-C connectors connect easily and stay connected.

Yeah. I know adapters are cheap but then you don't get the enhanced data speed.
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Old 05-05-2021, 08:51 AM   #11
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Yeah. I know adapters are cheap but then you don't get the enhanced data speed.
True, but in the trailer, there is no data, it is simply a charging port so that won't matter much....but will be normal over fast charging.

What I did was install 2 12V lighter ports and then added the lighter port to USB adapter that uses the Qualcomm 3.0 standard to allow fast charging of my Android phones and wife iPad. Best of all worlds.
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Old 05-05-2021, 09:01 AM   #12
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USB-A is still the universal standard. Apple cords can be bought to plug in, as can cords for Samsung. Lots of options for USB-A to USB-C cords out there.

The problem with going with the latest (USB-C) outlets is that there are still LOTS and LOTS of people with devices using other charging ports, and having a fairly universal option like USB-A seems logical.

Just think - how long did it take the RV world to move from the cigarette lighter sockets? And those were never intended to be a power outlet - they were simply a place to plug in a cigarette lighter.
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Old 05-12-2021, 09:44 AM   #13
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USB charging

I would not trust ANY of the AS plugs. Our 2015 FC 28 almost caught fire from one. Only use a certified USB charging block plugged in to outlet.
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Old 05-12-2021, 10:22 AM   #14
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They are trivially easy to replace. The plugs are just standard 12v barrel outlets used by basically everything (cars, boats, RVs, etc). Buy from a reputable manufacturer (careful on Amazon, lots of junk to weed through that make a lot of false claims or are otherwise sketchy). Unscrew two screws, disconnect two wires, insert new outlet, replace two screws. Takes like 30 seconds per outlet.

I just replaced the ones in our '21 16RB with outlets that have both USB-C (36W PowerDelivery) and USB-A QuickCharge 3.0. The factory outlets are garbage.



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USB type charging plugs in 2021 Airstreams

Take a look at the Blue Sea Systems website. They make products for marine installations. Solid products and they are by no means ‘sketchy’.

This is my transfer switch for my front generator port. Good example of the quality. Ignore the Amazon AC monitor gizmo above it. It remains to be seen how good that thing happens to be…

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They are trivially easy to replace. The plugs are just standard 12v barrel outlets used by basically everything (cars, boats, RVs, etc). Buy from a reputable manufacturer (careful on Amazon, lots of junk to weed through that make a lot of false claims or are otherwise sketchy). Unscrew two screws, disconnect two wires, insert new outlet, replace two screws. Takes like 30 seconds per outlet.

I just replaced the ones in our '21 16RB with outlets that have both USB-C (36W PowerDelivery) and USB-A QuickCharge 3.0. The factory outlets are garbage.



Neon Flamingo,

What specific brand or product item is this and where did you buy it? Do you have a link? Thanks!
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Take a look at the Blue Sea Systems website. They make products for marine installations. Solid products and they are by no means ‘sketchy’.

This is my transfer switch for my front generator port. Good example of the quality. Ignore the Amazon AC monitor gizmo above it. It remains to be seen how good that thing happens to be…

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Agree - Blue Sea makes a great product. I used them extensively when putting the systems together in my coach, and I am using them again as I remodel our 1994 Excella. Definitely not junk.

One note - they have various levels of each product line, usually based on the current you need it to carry. Read through the documents to select the one best suited for your project as things can look the same externally but not be the same inside.
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Neon Flamingo,

What specific brand or product item is this and where did you buy it? Do you have a link? Thanks!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PP1KY7Y...t_details&th=1

It didn't have many reviews, but the ones that were there seemed genuine. I verified the performance upon arrival before installing and both PowerDelivery and QC 3.0 worked correctly. It is common for no-name Chinese brands to list compatibility that isn't there.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PP1KY7Y...t_details&th=1

It didn't have many reviews, but the ones that were there seemed genuine. I verified the performance upon arrival before installing and both PowerDelivery and QC 3.0 worked correctly. It is common for no-name Chinese brands to list compatibility that isn't there.
Did they come with the rectangular bezels or did you buy them or did you drill out the airstream ones.
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Did they come with the rectangular bezels or did you buy them or did you drill out the airstream ones.
The bezels that came with the factory outlets were reused. The factory outlets just pop out and the replacements mated up perfectly.
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