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01-19-2022, 02:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 22' Bambi
2022 25' Globetrotter
St-Laurent
, Quebec
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T-Taps
Do folks reco them in our traveling/shaking tin cans to tap into an existing 12V wire? Do they hold? Thanks!
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01-19-2022, 02:31 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,674
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Hi
Depends a lot on what you are doing. For putting in another LED light on a lamp circuit they do ok. Worst that can happen is the light goes out. For the brakes, having them hang out in the muck under the trailer .... nope ...
Bob
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01-19-2022, 03:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 22' Bambi
2022 25' Globetrotter
St-Laurent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_bob
Hi
Depends a lot on what you are doing. For putting in another LED light on a lamp circuit they do ok. Worst that can happen is the light goes out. For the brakes, having them hang out in the muck under the trailer .... nope ...
Bob
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Thanks Bob. This would be to feed a cellular router so inside, tucked away in a cabinet. I assume based on your post that would be an acceptable application.
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01-19-2022, 03:48 PM
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Site Team
1994 25' Excella
Waukesha
, Wisconsin
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They work, usually.
But in the process they often cut a few (or more) strands of wire in the wire being tapped. This leads to lower capacity and and increased likelihood of future wire breaks.
I keep a couple in my tool box but save them for emergency repairs which will be redone later on.
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1994 Excella 25 Follow the build on Gertie!
1999 Suburban LS 2500 w/7.4L V8
1974 GMC 4108a - Custom Coach Land Cruiser (Sold)
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01-19-2022, 03:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 22' Bambi
2022 25' Globetrotter
St-Laurent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richard5933
They work, usually.
But in the process they often cut a few (or more) strands of wire in the wire being tapped. This leads to lower capacity and and increased likelihood of future wire breaks.
I keep a couple in my tool box but save them for emergency repairs which will be redone later on.
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Ok. Good advice. Thanks.
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01-19-2022, 04:49 PM
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Site Team
1994 25' Excella
Waukesha
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Join Date: Sep 2020
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Soldering is the old-school way of tapping into an existing wire. If you're good with a soldering iron and the wire is in an accessible location it is an option.
I just did a little searching to see if there are upgraded or better options for than the old T-taps. I found these:
https://www.posi-products.com/posiplug.html
Never used the before, but they do look like a great upgrade from the style which uses pliers to run the metal guillotine on the wires. Looks like they're available at Amazon and other similar places.
Here's a video from Crutchfield showing them in use:
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1994 Excella 25 Follow the build on Gertie!
1999 Suburban LS 2500 w/7.4L V8
1974 GMC 4108a - Custom Coach Land Cruiser (Sold)
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01-19-2022, 07:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 22' Bambi
2022 25' Globetrotter
St-Laurent
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Join Date: Aug 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richard5933
Soldering is the old-school way of tapping into an existing wire. If you're good with a soldering iron and the wire is in an accessible location it is an option.
I just did a little searching to see if there are upgraded or better options for than the old T-taps. I found these:
https://www.posi-products.com/posiplug.html
Never used the before, but they do look like a great upgrade from the style which uses pliers to run the metal guillotine on the wires. Looks like they're available at Amazon and other similar places.
Here's a video from Crutchfield showing them in use:
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Thanks for this. Seems like a sturdier option than the old guillotine ones. Appreciate it.
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01-19-2022, 08:20 PM
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New Member
2022 33' Classic
Surprise
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 4
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I've used a lot of these in a larger size on an outdoor low voltage lighting system. You might want to add shrink wrap on the male end to secure the wire even more when you screw these down. It is possible that the wire can pull out with a bit of tension ~ unless you feel that no tension will ever be applied to that wire.
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01-19-2022, 08:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 22' Bambi
2022 25' Globetrotter
St-Laurent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KPD67
I've used a lot of these in a larger size on an outdoor low voltage lighting system. You might want to add shrink wrap on the male end to secure the wire even more when you screw these down. It is possible that the wire can pull out with a bit of tension ~ unless you feel that no tension will ever be applied to that wire.
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Well, not a lot of intentional pulling but it’ll obviously be subject to the constant road vibrations. Smart idea to shrink wrap on top of it.
Ordered a few. I shall try! Thanks again.
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01-20-2022, 05:36 AM
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Site Team
1994 25' Excella
Waukesha
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Join Date: Sep 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steilkurve
Well, not a lot of intentional pulling but it’ll obviously be subject to the constant road vibrations. Smart idea to shrink wrap on top of it.
Ordered a few. I shall try! Thanks again.
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Please post a followup. I'm curious to see how they perform in a real-world situation.
Now if only we could find a way to totally shrink wrap a T-fitting...
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11018
1994 Excella 25 Follow the build on Gertie!
1999 Suburban LS 2500 w/7.4L V8
1974 GMC 4108a - Custom Coach Land Cruiser (Sold)
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01-20-2022, 09:00 AM
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Rivet Master
2020 22' Bambi
2022 25' Globetrotter
St-Laurent
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Join Date: Aug 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richard5933
Please post a followup. I'm curious to see how they perform in a real-world situation.
Now if only we could find a way to totally shrink wrap a T-fitting...
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Will do!
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01-20-2022, 09:47 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 30' Land Yacht 30 SL
South Windsor
, CT
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richard5933
Now if only we could find a way to totally shrink wrap a T-fitting...
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Wrapping the fitting in self fusing Silicone tape will provide some strain relief as well as a moisture barrier.
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01-20-2022, 12:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
West Lake Hills
, Texas
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 1,630
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_bob
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I use the WAGO lever nuts quite a bit…home, rental properties, AS, etc. They work great in cramped areas. The MicroAir easy start butt connectors weren’t big enough for the wires, so I used the WAGO connectors. I carry various sizes and types in the AS electrical kit. I can’t remember the last time I used an old-school wire nut anywhere.
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01-21-2022, 07:15 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,674
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus
I use the WAGO lever nuts quite a bit…home, rental properties, AS, etc. They work great in cramped areas. The MicroAir easy start butt connectors weren’t big enough for the wires, so I used the WAGO connectors. I carry various sizes and types in the AS electrical kit. I can’t remember the last time I used an old-school wire nut anywhere.
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Hi
At least to me, the big advantage of the WAGO gizmos is that they deal with stranded wire better than wire nuts do. They still are not perfect for super fine strands.
Bob
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