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Old 08-17-2017, 09:43 PM   #1
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Dash Cams?

Does anyone use a dash cam? I am looking at the Thinkware f800. Looks like a good idea. It's a crazy world out there these days. I also have a call into my insurance company to see if there might be a discount for installing one.
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:55 PM   #2
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We have a dashcam in each vehicle.
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:54 PM   #3
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I have one. Never caught anything worth mentioning. Guess that is a good thing.
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Old 08-18-2017, 04:35 AM   #4
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I have one. Never caught anything worth mentioning. Guess that is a good thing.
We've caught several accidents, near-misses, and a few acts of road rage.
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I also have a call into my insurance company to see if there might be a discount for installing one.
If the insurance discount (if any) over the dash-cam's replacement interval is more than the cost of the dash-cam, I'd call that a cost-effective investment.

A more pertinent question might be, is dash-cam evidence admissible in court? And the corollary, can dash-cam recordings be subpoenaed? In the first case, having and using the dash-cam could save you really big bucks in an accident, possibly getting you an out-of-court settlement and avoiding going to court at all. But in the second case, having a dash-cam could cost you big bucks if you were in the wrong, because then you can't choose not to provide the recordings.

In either case, recording dash-cam video without sound might be prudent. If there's no sound, what you said behind the wheel remains private even in court. Otherwise, you would want to follow the airline pilot "sterile cockpit" routine of only discussing driving-related topics— no personal conversations— while the dash-cam is recording audio. Hard to do if you have a spouse and/or children with you.
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In either case, recording dash-cam video without sound might be prudent. If there's no sound, what you said behind the wheel remains private even in court. Otherwise, you would want to follow the airline pilot "sterile cockpit" routine of only discussing driving-related topics— no personal conversations— while the dash-cam is recording audio. Hard to do if you have a spouse and/or children with you.
One of the dashcams we have is able to have its microphone muted (and is muted as a matter of course). The other does not. Avoiding non-driving conversations is tougher than a person might believe. Another factor to consider when making a purchasing decision.
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If you were in the wrong ( which I never am). The dash cam would have been "broken or not recording" during the indecent. The old " me no speka english" would come in to play. I believe Hillery used a hammer!
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Old 08-18-2017, 06:47 AM   #8
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We have one in each vehicle, it saved a friends wife and daughter, seperately, any fault in their accident, the daughter was thought to be completely at fault until the dash cam footage was viewed.

I always record sound, I could care less if someone hears me cursing someone out for cutting me off. While no Grandpa, I do drive cautiously and fairly courteously, so I am constantly narrating what I see, for posterity, Audi driver staring at lap - must be phone, Volkswagen driver doing makeup etc..

I'm pretty sure mine got me out of a ticket, went left through intersection as light turned yellow, four cars up someone wouldn't let car cross so I got stuck momentarily blocking their left turn, immediately when their light changed first car laid on horn, cop 4 cars back on opposite side, hits lights and pulls me over, narrow road so I pulled into parking lot, guy is complete dick accusing me of running red light, goes back to his car to write up ticket and I watch as his partner sitting in car is pointing out the rear camera of my system and the dick leaning forward for a better view. Then he comes back and says "we decided to just give you a warning" why thank you officer have a nice day.

I don't care about insurance deduction, that paid for itself, and if some A hole hits me that will be well worth the price paid too.

While not here, this happens too.

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Old 08-18-2017, 07:32 AM   #9
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If you were in the wrong ( which I never am). The dash cam would have been "broken or not recording" during the indecent.
I'm not the morals and ethics police. My self-assigned task is to help people make informed decisions by pointing out things that they might not have thought of. My feelings won't be hurt by opposing viewpoints. In fact I welcome them, because the opposing viewpoints might contain wisdom that I didn't think of.
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I always record sound, I could care less if someone hears me cursing someone out for cutting me off.
What one says about other drivers isn't an issue as far as I'm concerned. That's still driving-related in my book, and thus a safe topic for dash-cam recording. But families and friends have been known to talk in the privacy of their car about things they wouldn't want recorded and replayed in public. It's easy to forget that the dash-cam hears all and can be made to tell all. That's all I'm saying.
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Mine is muted, always
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We have one in the truck and one in the car - both muted. There are way too many cell phone junkies out there trying to drive, talk, text and surf at the same time. I also upgraded my horn.
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I've been using the SmartWitness SVC1080 for about a year and a half on my work van. A Costco camera I tried before this one was not so good, it missed entire sections of video so I returned it. Smartwitness was developed for the trucking and fleet industry and the SVC1080 is a lower priced model available to consumers.

It has GPS and on playback shows your route in a separate widow complete with speed and a graph shows acelleration and braking. Some people don't like the GPS feature because they are afraid it will implicate them if they are at fault. I like it, and I do not do stupid things like speeding and running red lights. The #1 reason I got it is because where I live, drivers running red lights is totally out of control. I don't want to end up in a he said she said situation.

The camera has been great, sometimes I even use the playback (on my PC) to see where and when the van has been all day for billing purposes, a side benefit I had not considered. I have it wired to start up and shut down with vehicle ignition power, so it's automatic.

The playback software on the PC got buggy one day but re-downloading it fixed it like new again. I would not hesitate to buy this unit again.

edit: Although I bought this camera off Amazon I just looked and it is no longer available. SmartWitness still shows it on their site but it looks like you have to contact them for info and that link doesn't work Maybe a UK member can help, I was hoping to get 2 more eventually.
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Old 08-18-2017, 09:36 AM   #13
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Most of the YouTube videos taken with a dash cam are from Russia.
There, everyone has a dash cam because the drivers are insane (or drunk) and the cops are corrupt.
I'm thinking of a GoPro because it works and can be used for other things also.
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Most of the YouTube videos taken with a dash cam are from Russia.
There, everyone has a dash cam because the drivers are insane (or drunk) and the cops are corrupt.
I'm thinking of a GoPro because it works and can be used for other things also.
I started with a GoPro, because I had one, they just get to be too much to deal with. They aren't setup for long runs, they are really just for short bursts to be spliced and edited later.

The dedicated units, come on automatically, and rewrite over themselves so you set it up and then never have to think of it again until you need to extract something. It can be set so it sleeps (on full time) and if someone bumps the parked vehicle, it records. It's not an inexpensive setup. But neither is a GoPro.
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I have a Blackvue dashcam in my TV. Because the TV is a longbox with club cab, I was only able to have the front cam installed, my son has both the front and rear cams on his Velostar. Returning home along Highway 401 some retard with Quebec plates drove on the right shoulder to pass me. There was a car stopped on the right partially on the shoulder so the guy pushed up against my right side to pass me, all the while there was passing traffic on my left. Lots of horn honking, but fortunately no accident. I called the OPP and sent them the video clip. They issued the owner a letter of warning informing him that if he gets any infraction in Ontario, it will be treated as a second offense. The OPP officer told me that the clip was retained in their records, and the letter was sent in English.
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Old 09-25-2017, 11:45 AM   #16
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I have two $80 units I got from Camping World. They turn on automatically when truck powers up. One faces front and one faces rear. I-94 from St Clair Shores west through Detroit is especially entertaining. I wouldn't drive without them.
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We have a BlackVue DR750s-2ch installed in both our Range Rover tow vehicle and the Airstream. Using their app, we can remotely monitor each when we're out, and can even talk two-way. Never had any incidents requiring to share files with the authorities.

We didn't order a dedicated backup camera on our Airstream, and have't needed it since, but the BlackVue 2-channel system would serve that purpose nicely.

Within the Airstream, the BlackVue is connected directly to the DC system (Victron LiFePO4 batteries), and in the Range Rover we have a pair of Cellink B Gen2 LiFePO4 batteries which run the BlackVue cam and a Cradlepoint IBR900 router for 24hours.
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We have a dash cam in the truck. Nothing really to write home about. FalconZero F170HD+ from Amazon. I like that you can disable the microphone so I don't accidentally run afoul of state wiretapping laws, and I don't have a running audio record of my opinions of other people's driving.
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