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08-13-2014, 01:22 PM
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#121
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Full-time travel family
2019 26' Flying Cloud
Wichita Falls
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ghaynes755
Looking at the Colonial link it shows the L couch in the options list. Looks nice.
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AND! I just saw a new listing for a 30 with L-lounge and bunks. It makes me happy to know this is an option.
Hopefully I haven't been breaking any rules about mentioning specific dealer names. Or links. I bet I have  Oops
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08-13-2014, 03:52 PM
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#122
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Rivet Master 
2015 30' International
2009 27' FB International
2007 25' Safari
Currently Looking...
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,564
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Well, at Out of Doors Mart they have a new Serenity with the L Lounge
2015 Airstream 30 Intl Serenity | Out of Doors Mart
And, if one is serious about getting a good deal, my guess is they will make every effort to meet or beat one of the larger dealers….
However, I am posting this to point out the nice features in a 30 footer… the storage is greater on this than on the new Classic. Although, if Airstream is listening, they might offer the Classic with the full length storage on the sides of the bed like on the 30 RB Serenity. Having had a 27 FB International with the panoramic windows at the head of the bed, i can state my preference is for the smaller window, and the extra storage on the sides. Also, everything always fell off the night stands when I was in tow, while the nice little nooks on each side of the bed in the new 30RB will hold things in check when traveling.
Now, if I can convince them to raise the TV up to a height one can see while lying on one's back….yes!
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08-15-2014, 07:20 AM
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#123
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1 Rivet Member 
1972 27' Overlander
Granbury
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 18
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Wolfhound, (LOVE your dog, BTW) with regard to a work space... a few months back there was a trailer on airstreamclassifieds.com that had a bedroom arrangement I just loved. The rear queen bed was pushed all the way to the right side of the trailer (as you're looking at the bedroom), and there was a small lounge/sofa from the bed to the left side of the trailer. Then all the way on the left wall was open where you could put whatever kind of desk you prefer. I thought it was really a great way to get "office" space into the trailer. Not sure what all you'd sacrifice by putting the desk in there, I guess it would depend on what trailer model you modified. I"m sorry, I don't remember what size it was, maybe a 27'? I think it was from California. Maybe if that person sees this thread, he'll chime in and send pictures. Lots of luck!
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08-15-2014, 07:21 AM
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#124
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1 Rivet Member 
1972 27' Overlander
Granbury
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 18
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BTW, this was a VERY professional looking mod, too.
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08-15-2014, 07:34 AM
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#125
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Full time Airstreamer
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Anywhere
, USA Living.Somewhere.Yonder
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,359
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Maybe it's just me, but I like having the dinette at an end of the trailer rather than in the middle across from the sink. Just seems to leave more walking around room and makes the trailer look more spacious.
Compare the 30' against the 25' rear bed Internationals.

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08-15-2014, 08:17 AM
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#126
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTTinNJ
Maybe it's just me, but I like having the dinette at an end of the trailer rather than in the middle across from the sink. Just seems to leave more walking around room and makes the trailer look more spacious.
Compare the 30' against the 25' rear bed Internationals.
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What's interesting to me is to compare the 28 and 27FB.

A lot of folks think the 28 offers more space, but you actually loose a lot more storage space with by throwing the dinette in there. No pantry, less counter space. And only one additional overhead bin, over the dinette. I suppose if you are a weekend camper, and are going to spend more time outside, it's fine.
We spent a lot of time looking between these two. So for us, if we went bigger we'd skip the 28 and go to the 30 over.
But 27 is the one for us.
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08-15-2014, 09:48 AM
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#127
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4 Rivet Member 
2015 30' Classic
Calgary
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 359
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoldAdventure
What's interesting to me is to compare the 28 and 27FB.
A lot of folks think the 28 offers more space, but you actually loose a lot more storage space with by throwing the dinette in there. No pantry, less counter space. And only one additional overhead bin, over the dinette. I suppose if you are a weekend camper, and are going to spend more time outside, it's fine.
We spent a lot of time looking between these two. So for us, if we went bigger we'd skip the 28 and go to the 30 over.
But 27 is the one for us. 
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I touched on this before but there are advantages/disadvantages to both. For us, we wanted some physical separation (greater than ~12"  ) between the dinette and the sofa because our son sleeps there. We wanted a space to hang-out while he sleeps if the weather wasn't ideal. The 28 offers that when compared to the 25/27. We also felt (our opinion  ) that having a separate dinette made the interior more "upscale"....again, just our feeling.
Regarding the FB/RB thing. I would rather be shielded (if only a little bit) from possible road sounds and passing lights. Also, if it's just a great view out the back, I'll be outside
As you pointed out, we are also only weekend campers. If I was full-timing the 30 is a great setup. It's similar to the 28 in many respects....just bigger in the areas that are required when you are spending many more consecutive nights on the road.
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08-15-2014, 11:55 AM
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#128
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Rivet Master 
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTTinNJ
Maybe it's just me, but I like having the dinette at an end of the trailer rather than in the middle across from the sink. Just seems to leave more walking around room and makes the trailer look more spacious.
Compare the 30' against the 25' rear bed Internationals.
 
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The 25 does not have a dinette, either, and there is less counter/food prep space.
Love my 30.
Wish I had a 34.
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08-15-2014, 12:00 PM
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#129
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Rivet Master 
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Anything with bench seating will become very uncomfortable if doing extended time in the Airstream. All those in the last few posts have bench seats, even though it's labeled "lounge" or "sofa". Some FC/international models have real sofas, but the 30/31/34 Classics are the ones designed for full-time use.
We tried it, and converted the dinette to decent seating. Lots of others have been doing this for years.
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08-15-2014, 12:15 PM
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#130
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Full time Airstreamer
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Anywhere
, USA Living.Somewhere.Yonder
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,359
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
The 25 does not have a dinette, either, and there is less counter/food prep space.
Love my 30.
Wish I had a 34.
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The 25 does have a dinette. But I agree it has less counter space. You have to give up something in those five feet!
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08-15-2014, 12:16 PM
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#131
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Rivet Master 
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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There are many posts about how uncomfortable the "L" lounges are.
The couch in a Classic is very comfortable- for sitting or sleeping-
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08-15-2014, 12:18 PM
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#132
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Rivet Master 
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTTinNJ
The 25 does have a dinette. But I agree it has less counter space. You have to give up something in those five feet! 
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I see-
It is at the front of the trailer. What it doesn't have is a big comfy couch!
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2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
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08-15-2014, 12:44 PM
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#133
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
I see-
It is at the front of the trailer. What it doesn't have is a big comfy couch!
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I think what you guys mean is the 25 & 27 have the dinette with the long couch on one side.
The 28 and up has dinette plus L couch. The older 2006 25's with the bed shoved in the corner also had a dinette and L couch.
It gets confusing with all these models.
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08-15-2014, 12:44 PM
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#134
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Full time Airstreamer
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Anywhere
, USA Living.Somewhere.Yonder
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,359
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
I see-
It is at the front of the trailer. What it doesn't have is a big comfy couch!
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I may get blasted for this, and it's not really related to size which is the topic of this thread, but I can not get over the look of those "big comfy" couches.
Maybe it's a generational thing (I am probably young for an Airstream owner)? I don't know. But this is the couch from a 2014 Classic.
If I didn't pull it from a 2014 model myself I could have been convinced that it was from a 1970's model! Looks like it came from my grandmother's house.
I MUCH prefer the clean modern lines of the Flying Cloud and International models, even if the couch (lounge as it's called) is not as comfortable.
And don't even get me started on the recliners...
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08-15-2014, 12:47 PM
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#135
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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LOL. My wife and I can relate. I don't want to offend anyone, but those classic's. Yuck. Like using Windows 95. But everyone's tastes are different.
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08-15-2014, 12:51 PM
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#136
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Full time Airstreamer
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Anywhere
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,359
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoldAdventure
LOL. My wife and I can relate. I don't want to offend anyone, but those classic's. Yuck. Like using Windows 95. But everyone's tastes are different. 
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Yea, I saw your post related to SOB's. Same thing here. No way no how.
And you have my ideal trailer. 27' Signature. My wife liked the lighter colors of the Flying Cloud and we came across a 25' we couldn't pass up. Otherwise we would have compromised with a 27' Flying Cloud.
Very happy with the 25' though. That twin has a lot of storage. Which does get back to this thread!
Size matters somewhat. I have 4 outside storage lockers in a 25' model. That's more than you get with the larger trailers. Plus there is storage under both twin beds that is easily accessible. Again you don't get that with larger trailers and a queen bed.
When looking at trailers and sizing it's important to really look at everything. There are such slight differences they are easy to overlook. But they can make a huge difference.
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08-15-2014, 12:53 PM
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#137
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4 Rivet Member 
2015 30' Classic
Calgary
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 359
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Does size REALLY matter when full-timing?
^ it's the twin, not the 25 that does that. Those are the reasons why we went with the twin as well.
We liked some of the aspects of the internationals as well, we just really disliked the sliding overhead storage compared to the FC. That was the major reason we went FC.
The '15 classic looks incredible! If I was full timing I would have went that direction in a heartbeat....and (I'm not sure if it matter but) I belong to a much younger generation
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08-15-2014, 12:57 PM
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#138
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Rivet Master 
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoldAdventure
I think what you guys mean is the 25 & 27 have the dinette with the long couch on one side.
The 28 and up has dinette plus L couch. The older 2006 25's with the bed shoved in the corner also had a dinette and L couch.
It gets confusing with all these models.
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What I'm saying is the couch in the Classic is way more comfortable than the L-shaped lounges in the other models.
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08-15-2014, 12:58 PM
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#139
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Rivet Master 
Currently Looking...
Mantua
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,062
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. Many of the new ones, too sterile looking, don't want to camp in a computer! Jim
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08-15-2014, 12:59 PM
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#140
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Rivet Master 
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTTinNJ
I may get blasted for this, and it's not really related to size which is the topic of this thread, but I can not get over the look of those "big comfy" couches.
Maybe it's a generational thing (I am probably young for an Airstream owner)? I don't know. But this is the couch from a 2014 Classic.
If I didn't pull it from a 2014 model myself I could have been convinced that it was from a 1970's model! Looks like it came from my grandmother's house.
I MUCH prefer the clean modern lines of the Flying Cloud and International models, even if the couch (lounge as it's called) is not as comfortable.
And don't even get me started on the recliners...
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That's my couch!
That's my trailer!
I love it!
I would like a brown one better!
Yes, the Classic is your grandparents trailer! That's what I like about it!
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