Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-23-2015, 07:49 AM   #81
Rivet Master
 
mandolindave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,189
Images: 4
For me…it's very important to consider both sides

#1 Convenience - It's kind of a toss up, as far as the pain in the neck category. Probably depends on the places you camp. Dump stations are hardly ever close by for me. If you can wait until you get home to compost, and you have a big yard, then I'd give the edge to the Composting toilet. But at a music festival, finding a place to put compost would be very difficult. Any kind of dumping is probably the most unpleasant part about camping.

#2 Boondocking - Composting wins out because you don't waste water flushing.

#3 Environmental issues - For me the jury is out. Does the pooh compost quick enough? What about the most recent " addition " to the mix ? Is composted pooh that smells like dirt as safe as dirt? Will people without experience dump too soon or in an irresponsible location?

Water is NEEDED for city plumbing and septic tanks. It's BAD for outhouses, which are basically a composting toilet. The statistics show that the majority of water uses are for washing, and we flush more than we drink.

#4 Money - Would there be any savings if buying a new camper with a composting toilet, because it's a way simpler build ????? The cost of switching over, and modifications, are a big turn off.

In summary…I think the environmental issue, is the only one which should be controversial. The rest is all personal, depending on how you camp, and how much disposable income you have.
__________________

mandolindave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2015, 08:23 AM   #82
LABTOPIA
 
labtopia's Avatar
 
1958 22' Caravanner
Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 74
Quote:
Originally Posted by mandolindave View Post
#1 Convenience - It's kind of a toss up, as far as the pain in the neck category. But at a music festival, finding a place to put compost would be very difficult. Any kind of dumping is probably the most unpleasant part about camping.
dave, i emptied mine for the first time after 3mos and wasnt grossed out as i had expected to be. it can be put in a kitchen trash bag and put in a dumpster or trash or emptied in a wooded area or garden safely at that point.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mandolindave View Post
#3 Environmental issues - For me the jury is out. Does the pooh compost quick enough? What about the most recent " addition " to the mix ? Is composted pooh that smells like dirt as safe as dirt? Will people without experience dump too soon or in an irresponsible location?
dave, i talked with NH today and evidently the newest addition will continue to compost and told any harmful bacteria will die within 8-10hrs outside of the body-the thing that is different than a black tank is that urine is not in the mix (that's what creates a sewage biohazard). as for 'safe as dirt' it's only recommended to be used on non-edible plants and garden stuff. for too soon, if put in a bag it will continue to finish composting.

again, i dont have any experience with a black tank or what is involved in maintenance, dumping, frequency, level of convenience. I can say with my NH, i empty the #1 jug about 3-4days and the #2 composting base after 3mos of use.

dave
__________________

__________________
Dave Ballard - Full Time Airstreamer WBCCI #4276
https://180sqft.drinkertoys.com/ READ MY AIRSTREAM BLOG
Electric Unicycle Rider (SBU)
labtopia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2015, 08:27 AM   #83
Rivet Master
 
Tincampers's Avatar
 
2007 Interstate
Sneedville , Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,753
Quote:
Originally Posted by labtopia View Post
Cool! If you would like any install tips about how i put mine in let me know. Also after using mine for 5 mos. I'm concidering a second liquid container, I've found myself a couple times in the middle of the night with a full container and gotta go. Just keep a heads up on that-you might want a backup jug.

MY NATURES HEAD INSTALL

Dave
I have 2 questions right now. Once I remove the current toilet what can I use to plug up the hole into the tank. Then will I need to put something under the new toilet like a piece of wood or something to get the floor flat. I don't know if there is a floor flange or something.
Tincampers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2015, 08:38 AM   #84
Rivet Master
 
mandolindave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,189
Images: 4
Or….

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrprez View Post
I have 2 questions right now. Once I remove the current toilet what can I use to plug up the hole into the tank. Then will I need to put something under the new toilet like a piece of wood or something to get the floor flat. I don't know if there is a floor flange or something.

You could screw ( and caulk ) a thin piece of wood, plastic, or stainless steel over the hole, or the whole mounting surface. A one step solution.
mandolindave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2015, 08:44 AM   #85
Full Time Adventurer
 
BoldAdventure's Avatar
 
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic , USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrprez View Post
I have 2 questions right now. Once I remove the current toilet what can I use to plug up the hole into the tank. Then will I need to put something under the new toilet like a piece of wood or something to get the floor flat. I don't know if there is a floor flange or something.
Pretty sure they sell a toilet flange cap at home depot.

__________________
Family of 5 exploring the USA with a Ram Power Wagon & Airstream in tow.
OUR BLOG | INSTAGRAM
BoldAdventure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2015, 08:44 AM   #86
Rivet Master
 
mandolindave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,189
Images: 4
high jacking alert

I wonder if the " stuff " composts better, outside in the elements, or buried.
mandolindave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2015, 08:50 AM   #87
Rivet Master
 
Tincampers's Avatar
 
2007 Interstate
Sneedville , Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,753
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoldAdventure View Post
Pretty sure they sell a toilet flange cap at home depot.

Thanks BA, I had seen that picture before but couldn't find it.
Tincampers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2015, 02:12 PM   #88
Rivet Master
 
Tincampers's Avatar
 
2007 Interstate
Sneedville , Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,753
Can we get back to the topic at hand and start another thread on internet etiquette?
Tincampers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2015, 05:27 PM   #89
Site Team
 
Janet H's Avatar

 
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen , Washington
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,256
Images: 90
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrprez View Post
Can we get back to the topic at hand and start another thread on internet etiquette?
Good idea. Mod hat on...


Folks, a number of posts have been removed from this thread that run afoul of the intent of our user agreement regarding civility.

Please remember: Stay on topic, state your opinion POLITELY and then move on. Others are entitled to their opinions and may not agree with you but this is no reason for snarky responses.
__________________
1964 Overlander | 2020 Mercedes GLE
Current Project: 1964 Globetrotter



AirForums Custom Search
Janet H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2015, 08:13 PM   #90
Full Time Adventurer
 
BoldAdventure's Avatar
 
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic , USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
Final question, does one need to always sit to go #1 - is that preferred?
__________________
Family of 5 exploring the USA with a Ram Power Wagon & Airstream in tow.
OUR BLOG | INSTAGRAM
BoldAdventure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2015, 10:09 PM   #91
4 Rivet Member
 
calais66's Avatar
 
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Sacramento , California
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 263
Can't speak to Nature's Head, but you can stand for #1 with an Airhead. The bowl slopes towards the pee drain and the flap over the composting section is air and liquid tight. I give it a spritz with a spray bottle of diluted vinegar and it's good to go!
calais66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 05:20 AM   #92
LABTOPIA
 
labtopia's Avatar
 
1958 22' Caravanner
Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 74
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoldAdventure View Post
Final question, does one need to always sit to go #1 - is that preferred?
I stand and dont have issues, there's 2 holes in the front of the toilet to play the 'aim game'.

dave
__________________
Dave Ballard - Full Time Airstreamer WBCCI #4276
https://180sqft.drinkertoys.com/ READ MY AIRSTREAM BLOG
Electric Unicycle Rider (SBU)
labtopia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 07:31 AM   #93
2 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
Racine , Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 83
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrprez View Post
I have 2 questions right now. Once I remove the current toilet what can I use to plug up the hole into the tank. Then will I need to put something under the new toilet like a piece of wood or something to get the floor flat. I don't know if there is a floor flange or something.
At Home Depot/Lowes in plumbing they sell a plug for pic pipe (it is used for testing for leaks) you hold it in opening and tighten. One I got has big wing nut, I put on a regular nut so it didn't stick up as far. On water supply, I put on a valve and added a spray hose like on a sink.
Kilroy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 07:51 AM   #94
Rivet Master
 
Tincampers's Avatar
 
2007 Interstate
Sneedville , Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,753
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilroy View Post
At Home Depot/Lowes in plumbing they sell a plug for pic pipe (it is used for testing for leaks) you hold it in opening and tighten. One I got has big wing nut, I put on a regular nut so it didn't stick up as far. On water supply, I put on a valve and added a spray hose like on a sink.
Brilliant! Thanks...
Tincampers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 09:31 AM   #95
Full Time Adventurer
 
BoldAdventure's Avatar
 
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic , USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
Ok, I lied, one more question. I take it that the "trap door" is larger than the trap on a normal RV toilet. So everything always goes down the hole right?
__________________
Family of 5 exploring the USA with a Ram Power Wagon & Airstream in tow.
OUR BLOG | INSTAGRAM
BoldAdventure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 07:51 PM   #96
4 Rivet Member
 
calais66's Avatar
 
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Sacramento , California
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 263
Airhead sells paper liners you put down prior do doing your business (they look like coffee filters). They cost something in the neighborhood of $4 for a pack of 50. They (like TP) go down the hatch when you're done and are composted, too.
calais66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 08:47 PM   #97
Rivet Master
 
andreasduess's Avatar
 
1984 34' International
Toronto , Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,496
Images: 5
Blog Entries: 1
My Nature's Head was delivered today. Looking forward to next spring even more now.
andreasduess is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2015, 08:59 PM   #98
Full Time Adventurer
 
BoldAdventure's Avatar
 
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic , USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
Can I come poop in someone's composting toilet?















































Just kidding.
__________________
Family of 5 exploring the USA with a Ram Power Wagon & Airstream in tow.
OUR BLOG | INSTAGRAM
BoldAdventure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 07:58 AM   #99
2 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
2015 Interstate Grand Tour
kirkwood , Missouri
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrprez View Post
Thanks BA, I had seen that picture before but couldn't find it.
That's my pic!!! 😁 We bought the cap at Lowes.
epicdetour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2015, 12:12 PM   #100
Rivet Master
 
Tincampers's Avatar
 
2007 Interstate
Sneedville , Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,753
Quote:
Originally Posted by epicdetour View Post
That's my pic!!! We bought the cap at Lowes.

I bought the same cap. What did you use under the toilet to get past the flange?
__________________

Tincampers is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Installing a composting toilet gamana Sinks, Showers & Toilets 18 04-03-2017 08:48 PM
Composting toilet: winter use? Joyfulgirl Sinks, Showers & Toilets 5 08-27-2011 08:45 PM
Your questions about our Composting Toilet FLYNCLD Waste Systems, Tanks & Totes 55 03-28-2011 05:04 PM
Anyone installed a composting toilet? casaalumina Sinks, Showers & Toilets 15 10-08-2008 12:53 PM
Composting toilet replacement Phaedrus Sinks, Showers & Toilets 4 10-17-2003 06:19 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.