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12-30-2008, 04:22 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1993 34' Legacy 34
Spring Hill
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
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Airstream steering problem
I have a 1993 Airstream Legacy 34' deisel pusher with a steering problem. I have new shocks,had the front end checked and all ligned up and put new Good Year tires on it, but the tires seem to help the steering a little but the ride was terrible.The dealer that I got the tires from said that he would like to change the good year tires off and but on toyo tires so I said OK. Well the toyo tires ride great to bad the other tires didn't ride this good but the toyo tires does not steer as good as the good years and they didn't steer the best. The tire size is 8 R 19.5 and the good year tires were 6.5+" wide and the toyo's are only 5.25" wide on the ground. I have a safe-T-steer on the unit to but the thing just doesn't drive like it should it is just all over the road. I have had 4 other motor homes without this problem and I do not know what to do about the problem. I have thought about changing just the front tires to a wider tire again to see if this would help.Maybe like a 225/70/19.5 and maybe adding a track bar to the front ,the back already has one.Does anyone have any ideals?
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12-30-2008, 05:53 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 239
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Does your motorhome have front air bags? If you do you need to verify pressure recomendations,wrong pressure or lack of will affect steering. Have you had the alignment checked?
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12-30-2008, 06:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1993 33' Land Yacht
Midland
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 508
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You didn't mention if your steering has a lot of play in it. If it does have you ever changed the bell crank bearings? They can correct road wondering.
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12-30-2008, 08:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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If the condition of the front end and steering is good, as in no play, a "wondering" condition on the road is usually a result of too much toe-out. A "darting" condition on the road is usually caused by too much toe-in. If you know the toe-in specs, you can actually check it your self with a helper and a tape measure.
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Regards,
Steve
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01-01-2009, 02:55 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1993 34' Legacy 34
Spring Hill
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lynn
Does your motorhome have front air bags? If you do you need to verify pressure recomendations,wrong pressure or lack of will affect steering. Have you had the alignment checked?
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No I do not have air bags only leave springs and I had the front end all checked out and aligned and they could not find any problems with the couch.
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01-01-2009, 03:00 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1993 34' Legacy 34
Spring Hill
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gloran
You didn't mention if your steering has a lot of play in it. If it does have you ever changed the bell crank bearings? They can correct road wondering.
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When I had the alignment done they got all the play out of the steering and checked the front end for any problem. This was done by a big company that works on the big big trucks so they konw what they are doing I hope.
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01-01-2009, 03:03 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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If it were mine, I'd take it back and tell them what it's doing. Just because they aligned the front end, doesn't mean they aligned the front end correctly.
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Regards,
Steve
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01-01-2009, 03:04 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1993 34' Legacy 34
Spring Hill
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveH
If the condition of the front end and steering is good, as in no play, a "wondering" condition on the road is usually a result of too much toe-out. A "darting" condition on the road is usually caused by too much toe-in. If you know the toe-in specs, you can actually check it your self with a helper and a tape measure.
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The alignment was done by a big trucking company here in florida and it is better now than it was but it is still a bear to drive.
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01-01-2009, 05:46 PM
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Rivet Master
Las Vegas
, Nevada
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 626
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What Steve says in reply #7 are my thoughts exactly. Even the "best" shops make mistakes.
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01-01-2009, 10:40 PM
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Community Organizer
2005 22' Safari
South Chicago
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 98
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How much pressure in the tires? Is it what Airstream specifies?
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01-21-2009, 03:06 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1992 36' Land Yacht
Oroville
, California
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 76
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i have just had my rig towed in due to what i call a shimmy-wobble
problem in the steering. It lurches, and seems like it will go totally
out of control. this problem is intermittant. i suspect it is suspension,
steering shock, steering gear, tires or axels or bearings.
several mechanics and technicians at the shop have test driven it
and experienced this shaking, but cannot pin point the cause.
this is a 36' Land yacht 1992
any other similar problems known to any of you?
Laurel
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01-21-2009, 08:25 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
1984 31' Airstream310
Ajo
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,649
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I'm not familiar with that coach. What kind of chassis does it sit on?
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01-22-2009, 04:07 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1992 36' Land Yacht
Oroville
, California
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 76
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it is new to me...sort of..i have had it several months but only had it out of the shop for a couple of weeks. all the paper work is in it and it is in the shop (again) now.
it has a Chevy engine (454?)
maybe someone else more familiar with these beasts can answer the chassis question.
(cactus hug?! ouch!)
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01-22-2009, 04:52 PM
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New Member
1988 34' Limited
Dashwood
, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2
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I drove a Freightliner once that acted like that and again it had alignments but it wasn't until we replaced the steering box that it was driveable again.
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01-22-2009, 08:09 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
1984 31' Airstream310
Ajo
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,649
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACK FARGO
I drove a Freightliner once that acted like that and again it had alignments but it wasn't until we replaced the steering box that it was driveable again.
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I think our friend prolly has a Freightliner chassis.
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01-23-2009, 04:05 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1993 34' Legacy 34
Spring Hill
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
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Steering problem
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Originally Posted by rollin' home
it is new to me...sort of..i have had it several months but only had it out of the shop for a couple of weeks. all the paper work is in it and it is in the shop (again) now.
it has a Chevy engine (454?)
maybe someone else more familiar with these beasts can answer the chassis question.
(cactus hug?! ouch!)
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I hope you get your problems worked out soon.
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01-23-2009, 04:08 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1993 34' Legacy 34
Spring Hill
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
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Steering Problem
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Originally Posted by Mike Leary
I think our friend prolly has a Freightliner chassis.
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My chassis is a Spartan chassis diesel pusher with a Cummings in it.
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01-23-2009, 04:11 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1993 34' Legacy 34
Spring Hill
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
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Steering Problem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Leary
I think our friend prolly has a Freightliner chassis.
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The steering box has been changed and checked several times and they said it is fine. My chassis is a spartan pusher with a Cummings in it.
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01-23-2009, 04:13 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1993 34' Legacy 34
Spring Hill
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
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The steering box has been changed and checked several times and they said it is fine. My chassis is a spartan pusher with a Cummings in it.
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07-28-2009, 06:38 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1990 36' Land Yacht
Bradenton
, Florida
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rollin' home
it is new to me...sort of..i have had it several months but only had it out of the shop for a couple of weeks. all the paper work is in it and it is in the shop (again) now.
it has a Chevy engine (454?)
maybe someone else more familiar with these beasts can answer the chassis question.
(cactus hug?! ouch!)
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I believe it should be a Chevrolet P32 Chassis, if i'm not mistaken. I was once!
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