The story of the Airstream 310 Jacket

[PeterH-350LE]

Originally Posted by bkahler

Peter,

It might be worth contacting the guy that runs the Acme Air Parts website. Back when I was rebuilding the evaporator box on my Argosy I contacted him about vacuum actuators and he had them available. I "think" his name is Richard but I could be wrong.

Brad

Thanks, Brad. I sent them an email, lets hope I hear back from them.

[PeterH-350LE]

Originally Posted by propstrike

... It. Never. Ends. Is this like the old Japanese guy, continually working on his house and garden? The day he finishes them is the day he crosses over? ......

That certainly enforces my preference to enjoy the road and not the destination.

[PeterH-350LE]

Originally Posted by bkahler

Peter,

It might be worth contacting the guy that runs the Acme Air Parts website. Back when I was rebuilding the evaporator box on my Argosy I contacted him about vacuum actuators and he had them available. I "think" his name is Richard but I could be wrong.

Brad

Brad, you were right, i need to use a Trinary switch to control the fan. I talked to Richard of Acme and he was great. This is what he told me:
1. Use trinary switch to control the fan (it has 4 wires, 2 for the hi/low and 2 for the fan)
2. The switch does not control the cycling , it just shuts off the clutch at low and high pressure
3. The cyling is controlled by the thermo switch at the evaporator

4. The compressor may not cycle for a long time

5. Best to use relays for both the clutch and the fan and just use the PCM for the signal

this is switch he told me to order , its part number 410-3025
http://acmeairparts.com/rvacheaterpa...egory=16022557


Now I am confused how to wire the fan wires from the switch. As is the fan just has + and - coming from the PCM I assume. How do I figure out where to send the fan signal to ?

[bkahler]

Originally Posted by PeterH-Airstreamer

Brad, you were right, i need to use a Trinary switch to control the fan. I talked to Richard of Acme and he was great. This is what he told me:
1. Use trinary switch to control the fan (it has 4 wires, 2 for the hi/low and 2 for the fan)
2. The switch does not control the cycling , it just shuts off the clutch at low and high pressure
3. The cyling is controlled by the thermo switch at the evaporator

I knew the thermo switch would cycle the compressor but I had thought the high pressure switch that is part of the Binary switch would come into play depending on how hard the system is working.

4. The compressor may not cycle for a long time

That doesn't surprise me!

5. Best to use relays for both the clutch and the fan and just use the PCM for the signal

That is 100% correct. The important thing is you have to be able to identify the wire coming from the PCM. That wire will provide the ground (sink) connection for the fan relay.

this is switch he told me to order , its part number 410-3025
http://acmeairparts.com/rvacheaterpa...egory=16022557

The switch in the link mentions 1/4" port. It will be interesting to see if it matches your 3/8-24 thread requirements. If not I think I know where to source a Trinary switch with 3/8-24 threads.

Now I am confused how to wire the fan wires from the switch. As is the fan just has + and - coming from the PCM I assume. How do I figure out where to send the fan signal to ?

I'll create a diagram for you. Probably won't have it done until later this weekend though. I'll make sure you can still use your manual switch as well.

This diagram will give you an idea of what you'll be doing, it's how I wired my Argosy dash heat/ac system.

Brad

[PeterH-350LE]

Originally Posted by bkahler

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The switch in the link mentions 1/4" port. It will be interesting to see if it matches your 3/8-24 thread requirements. If not I think I know where to source a Trinary switch with 3/8-24 threads...

I wrote Richard about the 1/4 port, this is what he replied:
It's 3/24 thread, but called 1/4 inch port

Hahaha, no wonder this stuff confuses the crap out of me.

[PeterH-350LE]

or 20 ways that Classic would have let me down, would I have followed up with my plan to fly to FL to drive the 350 home.

Interestingly, the 2 items I already had dropped shipped to FL (starter and alt) were ok.

Most of these items would have gotten me stranded and probably at different times.



1. Intermittent replacement fuel pump wire (just wrapped around the terminal of the radiator fan switch)
2. Added Fuel Pump wire was fed into the engine compartment to the back of the coach, laying on top of the muffler
3. Fuel tank gauge not working.
4. Badly leaking power steering pump reservoir hose and power steering pump
5. Airbag compressor ran continuously and only got the bags up to 60 pounds (leak at fitting of compressor)

6. Signal lights not working
7. headlights badly adjusted
8. Windshield wiper blades torn
9. Tires had severe sidewall cracking
10 . wiring harness rubbing on A/C pulley
11. 2 Gauge battery wire almost rubbed through insulation by motor
12. Transmission fluid external cooler leaking

13. Metal transmission almost rusted completely through
14. Rear Airbags have bad cracking
15. Some rubber fuel line hoses needed dire replacing
16. Fuel tank vent hose badly connected, would leak fuel when filling
17. Fuel tank strap bolt cross threaded at the beginning of the thread
18 . Generator not working, someone disconnected fuel line at the tank and used fitting for vent hose.
19. Radiator coolant reservoir broken into pieces
20. Badly worn front right brake pads

[bobmiller1]

That’s all ??? Regards, Bob

[PeterH-350LE]

When I replaced the Airbags on my 1987 345 years ago, I declared it to be almost impossible. Well, Airstream improved on the 350LE and ran a lot of other lines right on top of the bags, making it completely impossible to remove the bags without cutting a hole in the floor. Look at this mess.

[Smartstream]

Come on Peter, if it was easy anybody could do it.

[PeterH-350LE]

Originally Posted by Smartstream

Come on Peter, if it was easy anybody could do it.

Look, Dan, what happens when anybody can do it, like buying these sh it tires in 2013. These kind of tires are the ones that tear your rig apart. One of tires was a Goodyear G647 from 2010. It was in such good condition that the shop mounted it for my spare. I went with the Goodyear 8R19.5 G647

[Smartstream]

I agree, I replaced the Goodyears on my 280 when they were 10 years old and not a crack in any of them. Had about 60,000 miles on them and plenty of thread left. Now get back to work and change out those bags.

[PeterH-350LE]

that was tough, should have just left them in, they look pretty good
More info on how to on the Superide Model 8050 (early 90's I think) over on cmadmaxman's suspension thread:
https://www.airforums.com/forums/f15...ml#post2368972

[cmadmaxman]

Glad you got them out! Did you have to jack up the frame like we talked about?
Yours look like mine did

Good job Peter, knew you could do it!
Your a great member in the "Airstream Busted Knuckle Garage"

[bkahler]

Originally Posted by PeterH-Airstreamer

that was tough, should have just left them in, they look pretty good
More info on how to on the Superide Model 8050 (early 90's I think) over on cmadmaxman's suspension thread:
https://www.airforums.com/forums/f15...ml#post2368972

A little Trempro 635 and you'd have been good to go with the original bags.......

[PeterH-350LE]

Originally Posted by bkahler

A little Trempro 635 and you'd have been good to go with the original bags.......

Great minds think alike!!
I was thinking Black Vulkem and some saw dust for the tranny for the sale..

[bkahler]

Originally Posted by PeterH-Airstreamer

Great minds think alike!!
I was thinking Black Vulkem and some saw dust for the tranny for the sale..

Already thinking of selling?

[PeterH-350LE]

Originally Posted by bkahler

Already thinking of selling?

Actually, NO! Sorry, I know you want it, but this will be a keeper for a while. You just have to finish your Argosy.

[PeterH-350LE]

Originally Posted by cmadmaxman

Glad you got them out! Did you have to jack up the frame like we talked about?
Yours look like mine did

Good job Peter, knew you could do it!
Your a great member in the "Airstream Busted Knuckle Garage"

Yes, max I could get with manually inflated bags was 4 1/4" on 1 side and 4 1/2" on the other. Just enough to unload the airbag Beam, but not enough to have room for the valves to clear. (not even enough room to get the darn wrench on top of the bag to unscrew the air fitting)
Dogbone is just blowing in the wind, since this "Airstream Busted Knuckle Garage" is a one man outfit with some old guy...

[bkahler]

Originally Posted by PeterH-Airstreamer

Actually, NO! Sorry, I know you want it, but this will be a keeper for a while. You just have to finish your Argosy.

350's are WAY to long

By the time I finish the Argosy I'm going to be to old to use it......

[PeterH-350LE]

No more heat soaked starter