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Old 03-08-2021, 07:31 PM   #121
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Thanks Brad. Window is out, channels are clean, fuzzy fin seal is in, but looks like the new versions of the Vertical Lip Seal won't work. Seems all the Vintage Trailer supply and Out of Doors Mart carry the new versions and the profile is different. Might have to just use our old brittle stuff. We are hopeful that the Schlegle AS1268 that Peter recommends will work though. We'll see once all goes back together.
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Old 03-09-2021, 06:24 AM   #122
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Thanks Brad. Window is out, channels are clean, fuzzy fin seal is in, but looks like the new versions of the Vertical Lip Seal won't work. Seems all the Vintage Trailer supply and Out of Doors Mart carry the new versions and the profile is different. Might have to just use our old brittle stuff. We are hopeful that the Schlegle AS1268 that Peter recommends will work though. We'll see once all goes back together.

Is there a chance that ODMRV sent you the wrong stuff? Call them
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Old 03-10-2021, 08:18 AM   #123
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Just to clarify, Belle is having a challenge with their Argosy part identification and this should not affect a standard airstream motorhome?

I watch this thread because at some point soon I need to do this on my Classic.
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Just to clarify, Belle is having a challenge with their Argosy part identification and this should not affect a standard airstream motorhome?

I watch this thread because at some point soon I need to do this on my Classic.
I did this with these part numbers on my classic a few months ago and had no problems
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Old 03-10-2021, 08:37 AM   #125
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Other than the latching mechanism for the cockpit windows the glass, frames, seals, etc are the same between the Argosy and the Classic models.

The coach side windows however are a totally different story.
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Old 03-10-2021, 02:03 PM   #126
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Both VTS and ODMRV sent the parts that they have in stock for VTS-129 and 684919. I've sent them pictures of the original Airstream piece and what each of them have sent us. I've been told that Airstream apparently has changed what they are supplying. For our Argosy cockpit windows, we are unable to get their material into the slot of the Vertical Lip track. The dimension on the replacements is larger that the 0.09 and will not fit. Also the angle of the fin is incorrect and even if we could get it into the track, it wouldn't contact the glass. I've attached pictures of the original alongside VTS and ODMRV parts. And note - I am not pinching the original to get the fin into the position in the picture.

Magnet - is there any chance that you can post a picture of the product you used (VTS-129 or 684919)?
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Both VTS and ODMRV sent the parts that they have in stock for VTS-129 and 684919. I've sent them pictures of the original Airstream piece and what each of them have sent us. I've been told that Airstream apparently has changed what they are supplying. For our Argosy cockpit windows, we are unable to get their material into the slot of the Vertical Lip track. The dimension on the replacements is larger that the 0.09 and will not fit. Also the angle of the fin is incorrect and even if we could get it into the track, it wouldn't contact the glass. I've attached pictures of the original alongside VTS and ODMRV parts. And note - I am not pinching the original to get the fin into the position in the picture.

Magnet - is there any chance that you can post a picture of the product you used (VTS-129 or 684919)?



I checked my stock and yes, you are correct the 684919 ODMRV sells is not the same angle as the one in your picture. On the Airstreams starting in 1979 it is also used on all the vertical seals off the coach windows and the angle works fairly well, so i assumed that was the best we can get for the cockpit windows. I have them installed and yes there is a gap with glass, but I figured that the fuzzy felt acted more as a seal than the 684919. The entire cockpit window seals are pathetic and will never create a tight seal.
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Thank you Peter, for confirming that what we are receiving is the same as you have been getting. Unfortunately, we can't even get the material installed in the track because the width of the "neck" on the gasket is wider than the slot to install it through. So unless we can find some of the old stock, looks like we have to install our old brittle stuff back in.

The 1978 Argosy is similar to the 1979+ Airstreams in that the side "house" windows also use the same Vertical Lip seal.
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Old 09-26-2021, 11:46 AM   #129
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https://highskyrvparts.com/new-airst...w-684919-68491

A serch found this souce,
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Old 09-27-2021, 08:25 PM   #130
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I ordered some of that as I found myself needing to do these now, not later.

Any have luck getting the locks to engage properly after this procedure? Is there a way to adjust that latch? I didn’t see one short of drilling new holes in the latch for the three screws. I don’t know how you would tighten them. But I need about 3/8 - 1/2 an inch to fully engage that latch.
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Hi FoxTreeGuy - just a word of caution. If you need to order, I would suggest you contact HighSkyRV (or any other vendor) and as for a picture of the exact product that they stock. In 2 cases, we ordered the correct part number, and the pictures that the websites for the retailer showed the correct stock photo, but what was shipped/received was different. See my pictures above. In another case, we askd for photos before. Retailers said they got their stock from Airstream. I finally heard back from Airstream after dealing with their parts department and was told that the manufacturer had changed the design and they could no longer get the original shaped trim. We tried to use what was shipped, but it was not functional. We ended up not using the product and found something from another distributor, that was a different product completely, and it worked for us.
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Old 09-28-2021, 10:19 PM   #132
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Beltran - I believe there were a number of old posts that described what folks did to get their windows to latch, including bending the window frames. And in some cases, the posts said that there was no way to get windows to latch and they just lived with them as is. I'll look through my old notes to see if I can find the references.
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Beltran - I believe there were a number of old posts that described what folks did to get their windows to latch, including bending the window frames. And in some cases, the posts said that there was no way to get windows to latch and they just lived with them as is. I'll look through my old notes to see if I can find the references.

The best way to see what is going on with your window/frame is to install a short section of AS1268 in the bottom and top channel only and carefully move the window back to observe clearance, fit and lock engagement. And yes, I have "adjusted" both the channel and AS1268. The original Schlegle can not be trimmed or adjusted and bunches up in the curve.
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Btw. This worked.
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My first (mostly)finished window.
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Old 09-30-2021, 10:48 PM   #136
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Beltran - looks like the vertical lip seal (684919) that you installed has the proper angle on that fin to provide a good seal. When we needed it, HighSky was out of stock, and others, including Airstream had a product with the correct part number, but different angle on the fin. Yours appears to seal properly - what we got didn't fit and even if it would have fit, the angle on the fin was incorrect.
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I had to modify that to get it in there. I used a new razor blade and trimmed it to look like the correct shape to fit in that narrow track.
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Old 10-08-2021, 05:47 PM   #138
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The window seal came from Sky high RV this week. It has the same problem as the other stores mentioned above. All of it is wrong.

I am going to use what I have of the 685044 and cut it to fit the windows where I need it. I will take off the stuff I have and soak it in Rubber restore after cleaning it with Acetone. See if I can breath any more life into it. I doubt we will have a design change correction very fast.

Sending my Sky High RV order back with pictures to show how bad it is.
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As I mentioned above, we ended up purchasing a completely different product. It was easy to work with and works extremely well. We purchased from Vintage Trailer Gasket. Part number is #0114Z1

https://www.vintagetrailergaskets.co...e-windows.html

I've attached a couple of pictures of it installed.

Sorry for the non rotated pictures. They show up properly on my computer but not here.
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I look at the vertical "seal" more as a water deflector than a seal. If they don't shrink in a years time, they will harden to a point of being worthless. I somewhat gave up on them many years back. Just don't drive at high speed in reverse when its raining
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