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10-21-2010, 10:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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Priceless???
Well I am beginning to think I am on the trip to hell. Started out in paradise but it is going not well in many ways. I am almost getting to point where I do not trust our little Airtini - it keeps breaking something.
First of all, we went to the NorCal rally at Jackson Rancheria. That was great, we always have a fun time with those folks. Met some really great people.
We were supposed to leave from Jackson Rancheria and head out to Oil Trough Arkansas. But, as I mentioned a few days ago, we discovered that the rear oil seal had gone bad and was dumping oil to the tune of a quart every 100 miles. It had to be replaced.
So, we called some friends we met at Jackson who also had a motorhome, Chris & Bette. That was really great! Great People and perhaps the most generous I have met in a very long time!. We stayed with them nearly 3 full days while Airtini was being repaired. That cost $700 but during that repair, it was discovered that the tail pipe out of the muffler had separated from the muffler and had to be clamped together. I had to take it to a muffler shop and for $40, it was welded together because that was quick and easy.
Now we are back on the road and it has been nothing but problem after problem - I don't know what is going to break next on this run!
I had hoped to go from Kingmnan, AZ to Amarillo, TX today, but it looks like we will not pull into Amarillo until well after 2:00 a.m.
So, here is how our day has gone.... We got in to Kingman at 11:00 p.m. - more than an hour after we expected to. We no sooner park and Kimber says "something smells bad". We look around - I don't smell it like she does. Backup a little here - at Jackson, our charger boiled our batteries to the point of spitting acid all over the battery compartment. Well we thought we fixed that by just not using the charger and letting the batteries charge up from the alternator. (you already know where this is going). Kimber says "It has to be the batteries". Now, I am thinking to myself "how could the alternator overcharge a battery?" Well, I go outside and sure enough I can hear and smell the batteries! I open the tray and the first deep cycle battery is boiling mad. It must have been a cell gone bad.
Well, I lift the leads to that battery and leave the other in service, it was not hot or boiling. I pepper the compartment with baking soda. It foams up better than a fresh Guinness in a cold glass.
We decide to go to the auto parts store the next morning and replace BOTH batteries. So this morning we get a few gallons of distilled water and 2 boxes of baking soda. I sprinkle the baking soda until the inside of the compartment looks like its December 25 at the North Pole and then start to slowly flush it with the distilled. That helps spread the powder and neutralize the acid. Next I pull the batteries and haul them over to exchange for new ones.
I finish to clean up the cabinet and put the new batteries in. Nice clean posts, a new jumper cable, that fun red greeze - I do it all.
satisfied that the job is well done I get all cleaned up and ready to leave. But I notice that there is something new hanging from underneath the chassis. It was a vacuum hose that runs to an actuator off the headers to the muffler - It burned off somehow. So, its another trip to the auto parts store for a hose and a new coupling. I fix that, we fill up and we are on the road.
About 3 hours into todays drive, the overdrive unit, a Mile Marker Dual Range unit slams into low gear and the power goes off. It is locked in Low Gear. We drive 15 miles to the next rest stop and I check out the overdrive. I disconnect the power and reconnect it and it magically starts working again. Shortly after we get gas at 6:00, it goes out again and will not reset immediately with me pulling the power. But eventually it does reset.
So far on this trip we have spent:
2 gallons distilled water - $2
2 boxes of baking soda - $2
New rear oil seal - $700
Muffler weld job - $40
Box of new tools cause I somehow left mine at home - $100
2 more gallons distilled water $2
Another 2 boxes of baking soda - $2
2 new batteries - $180
Battery post cleaning kit - $8
New positive terminal jumper cable - $8
New vacuum Hose - $3
New coupling - $1
Doing the math - we have spent almost $1050 just to get on the road! That was almost my entire fuel budget - one way that is.
Trip to see 88 year old Auntie - PRICELESS!!!
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10-21-2010, 10:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Some days you eat the bear... Some days the bear eats you...
Remember Roseanna Danadana? It's Always Something. If it's not one thing it's another.
Next trip you're due to have it smoother than glass.
Paula
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10-21-2010, 11:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Excella 500
West Sacramento
, California
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 732
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You are reminding me why a trailer is better than a motorhome. Don't get me wrong, a motorhome is much more roomier and has comfort advantages. But they sit too damn long without being run and the older they get the more mechanical problems they have. My dad bought a 99 Airstream MoHo in 2002 and after he passed away it sat for a year in storage. I would start the motor when I came to town to visit maybe 3-4 times a year. When it came time to drive it to Blythe to be put up for sale at the Hobo Rally, I had nothing but trouble. By the time I got to blythe I vowed never to own a motorhome. I hope you have better luck on this trip and future trips. Once you get everything fixed I'm sure you will have more trust in it.
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10-22-2010, 03:58 AM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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Welcome to vintage vehicle ownership
But at least you LOOK good when broken down.
Aaron
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....so many Airstreams....so little time...
WBCCI #XXXX AIR #2495
Why are we in this basket...and where are we going
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10-22-2010, 09:57 AM
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Tramp Streamer
Commercial Member
1995 28' Excella
Artist
, at Large
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,002
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The McGuiver Gene
Tim and Kimber,
If all went smoothly, you might as well have been sitting on your couch mindlessly watching some actors on TV pretending to have an exciting life on the road, overcoming obstacles, solving seemingly insurmountable problems, interacting and meeting interesting folk along the way, livin by their wit and gettin it done.
Hey, I think I've seen this movie
Spending money, cheap.
Having an adventure, Priceless!
Say "HI" to Auntie
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10-22-2010, 11:08 AM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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You make me feel better about all the things on our trailer that break, though I don't think that was your intention. Our screen door catch broke for the 2nd time this year last night. That's a lot better than a rear main seal.
Good luck with the rest of your trip.
Gene
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10-22-2010, 11:27 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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Today, all is actually going smooth! Nothing broke - yet. The speedo cable squeaks out a regular tune that we almost don't hear anymore, except when it stops.
I am keeping my eye on the alternator - as some may know, Kimber and I do not have good alternator karma. We have been through 5 on the Hummer. Well, kimber heard something last night when we were filling up so I popped the engine cover to give a listen. At idle, the alternator has a dry bearing kind of sound that goes away as RPMs go up. I'm just saying......
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10-22-2010, 04:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,102
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BUT>>>you Are on the road, and when you park, yer there...it's a 17,000 pound albatross when it doesn't work, and a piece of heaven when it does...it's like any money pit, but it has WHEELS, and , so far, the benefits we have gained from switching to the moho from the '68 Overlander are incomparable...just one man's opinion...ok, ok, So everyone else considers me a child in old man's clothing...but that's just 'cause they envy my Hawaiian shirt collection...and my tiaras...
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Michael & Tracy
1989 345 Motorhome
CHARTER MEMBERS: FOUR CORNERS UNIT, AND PROUD OF IT!!!
We live for the moment, 'cause when you get there, it's gone...
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10-22-2010, 05:27 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2006 25' Classic
Newport Beach
, California
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 55
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I will add my hopes and prayers for you to have more fun and less funny business!!
Cathy
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10-22-2010, 07:03 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 25' International CCD
Leesburg
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 316
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My Albatross flew me to a conference 100 miles away this week, gave me the best quarters at the 4H facility and flew me back no problem. It's taken over a year to get things fixed enough to go further than around the block
These classics are not for the faint of heart. I feel your pain, and pleasure Buttercup!!!
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10-22-2010, 09:14 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 28' Ambassador
Morada
, California
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,584
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Are we having fun yet?
Ain't RV'ing fun...nothing 'breaks' till you're miles from home!
Pat probably mentioned it to you, maybe last year, that her mom was born in Oil Trough Arkansas...then she got smart and moved to California
Pat still has kin back there in Pine Bluff, AR - we took the I-40 route a few years ago for a kin-visit in our Lance camper'd F-350 4x4 with a 4 inch lift! Several of the good old boys back there wanted us to leave the keys laying around so they could 'borrow' that cool rig
BTW, probably the best rest stop we ever 'visited' was the one just across the Arkansas line heading East on I-40 - it's a big 'log cabin' in a wooded setting, with rocking chairs in front of a roaring fireplace, free coffee from the ladys taking care of the place, and lots of free Arkie reading material!
It was a misty, drizzling morning the day we came through there, and Pat (also an Arkie) who never meets a stranger, had a grand visit with the gals at the rest stop - I had a hard time gettin' her back on the road
Hope you have an 'uneventful' road trip the rest of the way...
Ray & Pat
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Ray & Pat; Morada, CA
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10-22-2010, 09:53 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,328
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We RVers are always searching for campfire 'tales'. Airtini seems to be a good resource for you two. But I sense that beneath your frustration you are accepting this challenge. ARKANSAS OR BUST!
Neil
P.S.Someday I will tell you of my boyhood experience traveling with my parents and brother on RTE 66. The year, 1952; the ocassion, moving from Mich to Ca; Transportation 1948 Nash towing our home, a 26' travel trailer. In some ways I believe the pioneers had it easier.
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FreshAir #12407
Avatar;
Kirk Creek, Big Sur, Ca. coast.
1966 Trade Wind
1971 Buick Centurion convertible
455 cid
1969 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight
455 cid
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10-22-2010, 10:28 PM
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moderator
Commercial Member
2016 27' International
Currently Looking...
Wilton
, California
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,711
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I'm blaming it all on the squirrel...
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10-23-2010, 10:54 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Excella 500
Genoa
, Nevada
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buttercup
...I am keeping my eye on the alternator - as some may know, Kimber and I do not have good alternator karma. We have been through 5 on the Hummer. Well, kimber heard something last night when we were filling up so I popped the engine cover to give a listen. At idle, the alternator has a dry bearing kind of sound that goes away as RPMs go up. I'm just saying......
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Regulator. Voltage regulator could do that to your batteries and your alternator. Now how it does it to the Hummer, hmm.
Our fav artist is on his way an hour ago, heading into the wind. Cross wind, supposed to be 120 mph over the top of the Sierra's, and where's he going with the square box TV pulling his airodynamic twinkie? Parallel to the top of the Sierras.
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I admit to being powerless over housecleaning and social niceities
Airforums 22655 and now, WBCCI 22655
NevadaGeo
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10-23-2010, 10:56 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Excella 500
Genoa
, Nevada
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airslide
I'm blaming it all on the squirrel...
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Ah, the regulatin squirrel did it to your Hummer's regulator too!
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I admit to being powerless over housecleaning and social niceities
Airforums 22655 and now, WBCCI 22655
NevadaGeo
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10-23-2010, 12:13 PM
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Kmpro
Currently Looking...
1984 31' Airstream310
Lubbock
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 301
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Priceless????
Well I am glad to see that I am not the only one that has the "Perils Of Pauline" every time I get in the Silver Hornet to go somewhere. Looks like the Silvertini does the same to you too. I carry an extra alternator with me since I found out the previous owner had replaced three of them. Classic motorhoming seems to be centered around the amount of spares you are able to carry with you as well as anticipating what might go South on you on that trip. It's wonderful when you don't have break-downs and the pits when they occur, but for my money I'll take a motorhome over any trailer I have ever owned including the AS International Overlander we owned twice. Motorhomes are not cheap to repair whether you do it or hire it done, but I don't RV because it's cheap, I RV to give me more freedom and choices as I go. Still the only way to go IMHO!!!
Mike
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A Man has got know his limitations-Dirty Harry
That's Some Bad Hat Harry-Jaws 1978
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10-23-2010, 12:53 PM
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New Member
1984 31' Airstream310
hereford
, herefordshire
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 4
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HI I bought my Airstream Motorhome in A.Z and drove all the way down the I10 through N.M and TX had a good trip only one oil seal and couldn't get up to Grand Canyon carburetter kept spluttering other than that had a good trip to Galverston. Then shipped it back to England. When I went to pick it up in Southampton it turned into an Albertros, it wouldn't start. To cut a long story short some one had managed to put a piston through the side of the block driving onto the boat .Two years later we have a diesel engine and have nearly got it street legal for U.K so reading your posts gives me hope. T
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buttercup
Well I am beginning to think I am on the trip to hell. Started out in paradise but it is going not well in many ways. I am almost getting to point where I do not trust our little Airtini - it keeps breaking something.
First of all, we went to the NorCal rally at Jackson Rancheria. That was great, we always have a fun time with those folks. Met some really great people.
We were supposed to leave from Jackson Rancheria and head out to Oil Trough Arkansas. But, as I mentioned a few days ago, we discovered that the rear oil seal had gone bad and was dumping oil to the tune of a quart every 100 miles. It had to be replaced.
So, we called some friends we met at Jackson who also had a motorhome, Chris & Bette. That was really great! Great People and perhaps the most generous I have met in a very long time!. We stayed with them nearly 3 full days while Airtini was being repaired. That cost $700 but during that repair, it was discovered that the tail pipe out of the muffler had separated from the muffler and had to be clamped together. I had to take it to a muffler shop and for $40, it was welded together because that was quick and easy.
Now we are back on the road and it has been nothing but problem after problem - I don't know what is going to break next on this run!
I had hoped to go from Kingmnan, AZ to Amarillo, TX today, but it looks like we will not pull into Amarillo until well after 2:00 a.m.
So, here is how our day has gone.... We got in to Kingman at 11:00 p.m. - more than an hour after we expected to. We no sooner park and Kimber says "something smells bad". We look around - I don't smell it like she does. Backup a little here - at Jackson, our charger boiled our batteries to the point of spitting acid all over the battery compartment. Well we thought we fixed that by just not using the charger and letting the batteries charge up from the alternator. (you already know where this is going). Kimber says "It has to be the batteries". Now, I am thinking to myself "how could the alternator overcharge a battery?" Well, I go outside and sure enough I can hear and smell the batteries! I open the tray and the first deep cycle battery is boiling mad. It must have been a cell gone bad.
Well, I lift the leads to that battery and leave the other in service, it was not hot or boiling. I pepper the compartment with baking soda. It foams up better than a fresh Guinness in a cold glass.
We decide to go to the auto parts store the next morning and replace BOTH batteries. So this morning we get a few gallons of distilled water and 2 boxes of baking soda. I sprinkle the baking soda until the inside of the compartment looks like its December 25 at the North Pole and then start to slowly flush it with the distilled. That helps spread the powder and neutralize the acid. Next I pull the batteries and haul them over to exchange for new ones.
I finish to clean up the cabinet and put the new batteries in. Nice clean posts, a new jumper cable, that fun red greeze - I do it all.
satisfied that the job is well done I get all cleaned up and ready to leave. But I notice that there is something new hanging from underneath the chassis. It was a vacuum hose that runs to an actuator off the headers to the muffler - It burned off somehow. So, its another trip to the auto parts store for a hose and a new coupling. I fix that, we fill up and we are on the road.
About 3 hours into todays drive, the overdrive unit, a Mile Marker Dual Range unit slams into low gear and the power goes off. It is locked in Low Gear. We drive 15 miles to the next rest stop and I check out the overdrive. I disconnect the power and reconnect it and it magically starts working again. Shortly after we get gas at 6:00, it goes out again and will not reset immediately with me pulling the power. But eventually it does reset.
So far on this trip we have spent:
2 gallons distilled water - $2
2 boxes of baking soda - $2
New rear oil seal - $700
Muffler weld job - $40
Box of new tools cause I somehow left mine at home - $100
2 more gallons distilled water $2
Another 2 boxes of baking soda - $2
2 new batteries - $180
Battery post cleaning kit - $8
New positive terminal jumper cable - $8
New vacuum Hose - $3
New coupling - $1
Doing the math - we have spent almost $1050 just to get on the road! That was almost my entire fuel budget - one way that is.
Trip to see 88 year old Auntie - PRICELESS!!!
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10-23-2010, 01:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2009 27' FB Flying Cloud
1982 31' International
1991 35' Airstream 350
Jay
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,706
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I could comment on the adversity, but it wouldn’t do to tempt karma….
I will offer that we are in the very Northwest Arkansas if you need another lay-over point….
Happy travels!
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Jeff & Cindy
'09 27FB Flying Cloud;'82 31 International
'91 350 LE MH; '21 Interstate 24GT
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10-23-2010, 01:36 PM
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New Member
1984 31' Airstream310
hereford
, herefordshire
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 4
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Airstream to Albertross
Hi I would like to add my story to yours.I bought my Airstream motorhome in Yuma A.Z off an add on the internet.After new tires we drove across A.Z N.M. T.X with not to many problems, only a rear oil seal which we had replaced.After a six week road trip we delivered the silver bird to Galveston docks, to be shipped to England .When we went to Southampton to pick it up, it had turned from a beautiful silverbird into an Albertross, it would not start after 4hrs with mechanics on the docks trying to start it no success .To cut a long story short we found someone on the ferry to England had blown the engine up a piston had gone through the side of the block.Two years later and to many dollars to count we have a 6.2 chevy diesel in it.Am now waiting for it to be legalized for England .So what next
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10-23-2010, 02:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 27' Safari
Carmel-by-the-Sea
, California
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,388
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Tim, didn't I tell you to take the Hummer along as a toad? Make that thing into a pusher!
Next time were together I'll do a better pre trip inspection with you.
Maybe a better isolator from that alternator to the batteries would help. I use a Sure power 120 amp model in our truck so maybe something similar.
Good karma to you and Kimber, no more issues, you'll see
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