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Old 06-02-2013, 09:35 PM   #1
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New Twin beds in our 310

This is for wxboy.

We changed our double couch layout in the back to 2 twin beds. We had earlier removed the backs to see if we liked the set up, then made the change with hinged plywood and custom mattress'. The mattress size is 32"x76"x5" one medium (for me) and one firm (for the wife). Northern American Mattress Company is where we got them made. Great quality and fast service.
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The pads on the walls and the doors, we recovered.

If anyone need the OEM couches, PM me, they can be yours FREE, you will just need to pick em up! Not much longer before they find there way to the dump.
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Old 06-04-2013, 06:39 PM   #2
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Thanks!!!

Why did you choose the 32X76 size? I was hoping to use a regular twin or single mattress..... I may have to rethink that!
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OK Dave, here are my figures----the interior width @ the head of the aft cabin is 88". At the foot of the beds it's 90" wide X 76" long.
Our mattresses are 31" wide. The frames are 31" wide also but the mattresses could be a skosh wider for sure & I wish they were.
The cabinet between the beds is 19' wide at the base & maybe 3" wider at he top.
I don't know the width of a standard twin but you might make it work without
the useable 3 drawers between the beds.
I'm sorry I didn't measure the aisle width between the beds but you should get a feel from the pics-----if I'm able to upload. One more rum should help.
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Thanks Pete that helps allot!!

Now I have to go over and lay it out..... I can easy sleep on a cot size mattress (30X74) since that is the size of the racks on most of the ships I have been on. But I do like the idea of using an off the shelf Tempur-Pedic for my back.. which is 38X74. But that would only leave a 12" isle.....

So I guess the only thing to do is do it backwards! Get the mattress, most likely a 32X74 and build the frame to match.

I am going to call the place Chris suggested and a place that specializes in mattress for boats (custom sizes and shapes) and start pricing them.

Although twin bunk beds would work..... but they would quickly become impracticable and inconvenient.
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Dave, I would keep the bed as long as possible. Anyone over 6' tall will have a problem with that 74". I wanted to go the 80" (which is the wall to wall length) but settled for the 76" and that keeps room to make the bed easier. Like Pete said, would be nice to go wider, but if you look at a Queen bed, they are 60" wide, so if you keep to your side, you have about the 30" of sleeping area. Going wider will take out your aisle real quick. I could have gone to 34 wide on the mattress, but with the curve in the back, they would have stuck out past the edge, or they could have made a curved mattress, but did not want to do that. You can go thicker, but ours with memory foam sleeps well. I would go with the regular mattress material, and not the blue standard they use. Its hard to keep sheets on. We just got some custom mattress covers, so will see how that goes. They were about $60 each.
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Chris, thanks for the advise! I am tentatively looking at either a 30X80 or 32X80. I need to check and make sure I have the space, but would like to stick with a size that we can easily get sheets for. I am headed over to measure things out when I get home today.
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I like the looks of your floor with the wood installed crossways. Does it make the interior look wider? Could you post some pictures?

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FWIW...cutting foam is really easy with an old electric knife...
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Notice, after starting to cut quarter round trim I switched to hemp rope
about 5/8" hardware store stuff. Held in place mostly with a dab of silicone
here & there.
I don't know if it feels wider but it seemed logical to me & apparently to Chris also.
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Pete's rope trick looks great!

I took out the table plastic thingy from our living area, so had a straight wall there I could trim. When I can get my phone to download to the computer, I will post you some new photos of the floor.

We used tongue and grove bamboo and found that it machines great! I milled slots for vents and made custom trim as well as switch mounts for the wall.

Like Pete, we liked the layout of the cross-ways look better than the long ways. Although there is more cuts, I think it is easier to fit. We glued ours down.
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Bamboo floor

Got my phone to download.

Here is some shots of the bamboo flooring. We used it for the kick area under the couch, sink, and rear beds. Used the bamboo 1/4 round in other areas and used SS screws to hold them in place. All the step well can be removed with SS screws holding the pieces in place. The flooring came pre-finished and the parts that I made used polyurethane to seal it back up.

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decisions....decisions..

Chris, Pete, et al,

Well I have finally had time the last few weeks to work on the moho on a limited basis. We were too busy the first part of the summer going camping then the 25th anniversary in July... So finally back to the grind stone.
Here is a shot of what I have done so far. The bedroom is completely empty and the mouse fur stripped off the walls and overhead. We are waiting for some special order wall paper (textured vinyl that looks like brown leather). Don't say a word... sometimes you just have to say "yes dear"!

I plan on coating the floor with WEST epoxy to seal it. The only problem is I am in an infinite loop trying to decide between 30" mattress and 32"....

The blue chalk lines are laid out at 32" which is perfect match to the hallway and would allow 1" either side for sheets, blankets, etc... and a 22" isle. How ever, If I tweaked it out 2" on each side I would get a 32" mattress and still have a 18" mattress. However with the curve of the back end I would have a gap of 13" at the head of the bed.... Unless I angled the heads of the bed together like they do on boats. that would make the head narrower but the berths wider. Allowing me to slide the mattress forward so I have the 13" of space at the foot of the bed, and still plenty of room to change, etc.

Anyone have any thoughts? I kinda like the boat idea....
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Kinda like this...
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Dave, I would go with the wider mattress configuration. The drawers between the bunks are rarely used & I'd rather have wider beds & a narrower
cabinet. I think we have too much space on either side of the mattress for tucking in sheets, etc. If our mattresses are 31' wide, I wish they were 33'.

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Thanks Pete! I have a sheet if Luan that I am going to cut to 32x74 and put it in there just for a final check to make sure the angled beds don't look too hooky.

It has definitely been slow going lately! Finally sold the trailer so we can concentrate in the moho
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Yes, we have twins in our 64, and it's a pain to use the drawers underneath. I store repair items there, and actually one side has no drawers due to the fresh water tank. The other side I put my battery bank and removed the drawers and just have the cabinet there since it is such a pain - the 64 has a drop down face with drawers underneath, and you have to be careful not to break the face of that drop down door, so I avoid using it when possible. You'd be better off to make them so they are lift up storage for bulky items such as comforters or sleeping bags. (one of my twins - the storage one - actually does that.) the only reason for a wider path in the center is to allow two thin people to pass by each other. If it's too narrow, they can't do that.
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Robwok; thanks for the info. Make sense to not even plan on usable storage under the twins. As long as we have at least 14" in the center I think we will be good Just worried about the look. Me thinks I worry to much!
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Robwok; thanks for the info. Make sense to not even plan on usable storage under the twins. As long as we have at least 14" in the center I think we will be good Just worried about the look. Me thinks I worry to much!
Dave, I wouldn't worry about looks as much as I would about comfort
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Brad, I dont care what it looks like, however Felicia will and therefore lies the challenge!
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Frame material

Well, I am set to build the twins on my next week-end off. I am trying to figure out the best and easiest way to build them. I was thinking about a frame out of 1X4 poplar skinned with 1/4 red oak plywood. I am worried that this may not be sturdy enough. I could beef it up with aluminum angle on the top as well. I was also thinking about just cutting a piece of 3/4" plywood to use as the side.

Any thoughts, plans or guidance would be greatly appreciated!
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