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09-03-2019, 09:31 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1984 31' Airstream310
Ware
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Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 15
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New Side Rear Window required '83 310
Would anyone know where I can get a replacement rear side window for a 310? It's the sliding in the bedroom (entry door side). New or second-hand. It has a blue tint to the glass. It seems a stone has hit it in side shattering glass. Glass is currently complete and I have used clear Gorilla tape to keep it that way. It looks as though glass is curved top to bottom....
Although I am in UK and would be happy to have something sent Internationally, I do have a contact in US (Florida) who could accept delivery and forward onto me if people prefer to ship only within US.
Any contacts for new or suggestions where there might be a model parting out (is this glass unique to 310?) would be appreciated.
310 MH's are not a common site here...!!
Cheers
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09-03-2019, 02:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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This is the only source for a Classic side slider curb side that I'm aware of.
Sometimes they have one available and sometimes they don't.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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09-03-2019, 02:58 PM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,535
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Did I read somewhere that Coach were starting a run of pano windows and curved glass Brad?
If so it maybe worth trying Anglo American Autocare in Newport ( https://www.facebook.com/RVrepair.co.uk/) they are Coach Glass importers into UK
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09-04-2019, 03:35 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
Did I read somewhere that Coach were starting a run of pano windows and curved glass Brad?
If so it maybe worth trying Anglo American Autocare in Newport ( https://www.facebook.com/RVrepair.co.uk/) they are Coach Glass importers into UK
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I don't recall hearing that anywhere. Then again there's a lot of things I don't remember anymore!
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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09-04-2019, 05:19 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
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Martin, if it is an Argosy window (i.e. 78 and earlier) it probably has the aluminum frame around the window glass. If so then it will not work on a Classic motorhome. The Classic's were all glass as shown in the picture you posted where The Argosies had an aluminum frame around the glass.
I'm not sure which style of window the 1979 models had.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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09-04-2019, 02:32 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1984 31' Airstream310
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Join Date: May 2018
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Thanks everyone for quick replies. I called High Sky - would you believe it he has a road side glass but not curb!!
Am talking to Coach as well and waiting their reply.
If anyone has any other sources (apart from Argosy being parted out who I am contacting) I'd love to hear from you!!!
cheers
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09-04-2019, 02:45 PM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,535
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I got a complete 24" curb side window from the Argosy being parted out last week so it is definitely there!
There are two 30" curb side windows above the dinette at the front of that coach.
Your next challenge is getting the glass to the UK; have you seen splitscreen's photos of the windscreens that got smashed in transit?????
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09-04-2019, 02:47 PM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,535
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I forgot to add.....please measure your window and make sure it is the 30" type (not the 24"), I am just going from the look of your picture!
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09-04-2019, 02:50 PM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,535
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
Martin, if it is an Argosy window (i.e. 78 and earlier) it probably has the aluminum frame around the window glass. If so then it will not work on a Classic motorhome. The Classic's were all glass as shown in the picture you posted where The Argosies had an aluminum frame around the glass.
I'm not sure which style of window the 1979 models had.
Brad
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Good point Brad, but I think the 1978 Argosy had already changed to the later type glass.
I am still trying to get my head around the ones in Bella which all came from the 1978 donor and look like the later type.
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09-04-2019, 03:50 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
Good point Brad, but I think the 1978 Argosy had already changed to the later type glass.
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Interesting. I have a picture of an early 78 mfg date 20' that has the aluminum around the glass. I guess I shouldn't be surprised by the confusion considering Airstream used the two different latch styles in at least two different 75 Argosies.
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I am still trying to get my head around the ones in Bella which all came from the 1978 donor and look like the later type.
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All glass, no aluminum?
I wonder if one way of knowing from the outside is whether it has three weep hole covers or four slots and no covers.
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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09-05-2019, 02:33 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1984 31' Airstream310
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Join Date: May 2018
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Thanks again for all the replies.
I've measured the windows and they are 30 inch x 14/14.5 inches, difficult to measure exact dimensions as it sits within this metal frame . All are surrounded by aluminium frames although not sure how the glass actually fixes into frame but it clearly must! There are 3 of same size on entry door / kerb side. And there are 3 of the 30 inch and 1 of the 24 inch on the driver / road side.
The outer aluminium frame that both the aluminium frames of the fixed and sliding window fit into have 3 weep holes at bottom. I hope that helps and if `none has any other sources / idea would like to hear
cheers
PS Martin, thanks for your PM much appreciated
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09-14-2019, 11:57 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
1973 21' Globetrotter
1975 26' Argosy 26
Vista
, California
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I think there is some confusion about the aluminum frame, on the Argosy's. I have owned both a 74 and 75 MH they both have just glass held in place with fuzzy channel. I know for sure, I replaced the old channels had the glass in my hand.
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09-15-2019, 08:12 AM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,535
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bibbs
I think there is some confusion about the aluminum frame, on the Argosy's. I have owned both a 74 and 75 MH they both have just glass held in place with fuzzy channel. I know for sure, I replaced the old channels had the glass in my hand.
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I don't think it is that general....Bella has aluminum borders on the sliding glass on the 30" windows (both sides), yet border-less (only glass) on the 24" windows.
Looking at the photos this 310 looks to be the same.
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09-16-2019, 05:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
I don't think it is that general....Bella has aluminum borders on the sliding glass on the 30" windows (both sides), yet border-less (only glass) on the 24" windows.
Looking at the photos this 310 looks to be the same.
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I think I have this window thing figured out, and I was backwards
The Argosy windows were all glass and the Classic's were glass with aluminum frame.
My definition of Argosy window is a window frame that has four drain slots along the bottom. My definition for a Classic window frame is one that has three drain slots along the bottom.
My Argosy has windows that have four slots and the windows are all glass. I have three classic windows in the shop that have three drain slots and all of the glass has aluminum frames. I have three more Argosy windows with four drain slots and none of them have frames around the glass.
Here is one of your Bella pictures. As you mentioned the 24" window has no aluminum frames and it has four drain holes. The 30" window in the picture has three drain holes and aluminum frames around the glass.
Here's a picture of Peanut with four drain holes on each window and no aluminum around the glass.
The next two pictures are of the Mountain Argosy and it has one of each style of window and they sit side by side!
Here is a 24" window from a 345 and it has three drain holes and aluminum around the glass.
One other method to tell which type of glass pane is needed is whether or not the window frame uses the gray plastic strips on the top and bottom for the window panes to slide on. Argosy windows just used Schlegel for the windows to slide on.
Based on V8JET's first picture he definitely needs a glass pane that has the aluminum border around it.
Whew, glad that's resolved!!
Brad
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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09-17-2019, 12:28 AM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
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Join Date: Mar 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
I think I have this window thing figured out, and I was backwards
The Argosy windows were all glass and the Classic's were glass with aluminum frame.
My definition of Argosy window is a window frame that has four drain slots along the bottom. My definition for a Classic window frame is one that has three drain slots along the bottom.
My Argosy has windows that have four slots and the windows are all glass. I have three classic windows in the shop that have three drain slots and all of the glass has aluminum frames. I have three more Argosy windows with four drain slots and none of them have frames around the glass.
Here is one of your Bella pictures. As you mentioned the 24" window has no aluminum frames and it has four drain holes. The 30" window in the picture has three drain holes and aluminum frames around the glass.
Attachment 352278
Here's a picture of Peanut with four drain holes on each window and no aluminum around the glass.
Attachment 352279
The next two pictures are of the Mountain Argosy and it has one of each style of window and they sit side by side!
Attachment 352280Attachment 352281
Here is a 24" window from a 345 and it has three drain holes and aluminum around the glass.
Attachment 352282
One other method to tell which type of glass pane is needed is whether or not the window frame uses the gray plastic strips on the top and bottom for the window panes to slide on. Argosy windows just used Schlegel for the windows to slide on.
Based on V8JET's first picture he definitely needs a glass pane that has the aluminum border around it.
Whew, glad that's resolved!!
Brad
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I'm soooo happy.....Bella is part Classic!
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