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10-29-2019, 02:46 PM
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#81
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3 Rivet Member
1983 31' Airstream310
Iowa City
, Iowa
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 232
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Is the file available?
Hello, Brad, I no longer have my 310 but have kept in touch with the new owner.
I'd like to obtain your printer file and then convince a friend to help me try it out.
Are you sharing the file you've developed?
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Airstream OCD...there is no cure!
1983 Classic 310 Motorhome.
AIR 15765
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10-30-2019, 04:52 AM
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#82
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Auretrvr,
Sure, I don't have any problems sending out the files. Ultimately I would like to post them on Thingiverse but just haven't bothered as yet. If you'll PM me your email address I'll see if I can't zip em and send them to you.
What brand & size of printer does he have? He needs to be able to print something that is 11-1/2" long.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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11-11-2019, 02:20 PM
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#83
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Airstream Driver
1994 30' Excella
1992 35' Airstream 350
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,224
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Originally Posted by bkahler
Good questions
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My question to the group is what would you consider a reasonable price for a window track (i.e. two pieces that make up a bottom or top)? I'm not really trying to make any money here but if I can't cover the costs of producing the parts it's not really worth making them.
Comments?
Brad
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Since no one ever made a proposal and I just learned that you are in the 3D printing business. let me give a shot.
Damn MH windows are a pain in the neck to reseal, depending on the old channel material being glued or not. Channel material, fuzzy and outside seal run about $25.- per window, so another $10.- per plastic channel ($20.- per windows) sounds like a reasonable amount.
The good thing is that you can just walk off and tend to Tommy after it starts printing, you dont have to sit and babysit, or do you?
Would that $10.- be enough to cover your expenses and give you a little profit (printer maintenance fees)? Then of course, you would have to charge for shipping it, as well.
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1994 30' Excella Front Kitchen Trailer
1990 25' Excella Travel trailer
1992 350LE Classic Touring Coach
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11-11-2019, 02:45 PM
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#84
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,535
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterH-Airstreamer
Since no one ever made a proposal and I just learned that you are in the 3D printing business. let me give a shot.
Damn MH windows are a pain in the neck to reseal, depending on the old channel material being glued or not. Channel material, fuzzy and outside seal run about $25.- per window, so another $10.- per plastic channel ($20.- per windows) sounds like a reasonable amount.
The good thing is that you can just walk off and tend to Tommy after it starts printing, you dont have to sit and babysit, or do you?
Would that $10.- be enough to cover your expenses and give you a little profit (printer maintenance fees)? Then of course, you would have to charge for shipping it, as well.
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I had suggested the same number Peter, my rationale was that was about the cost of a set of weep hole covers.
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11-11-2019, 03:35 PM
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#85
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"Alumi-holic"
1982 31' Airstream 310
Bartlett
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 742
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Interested...if you have any available, would like to purchase.
Daniel
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11-11-2019, 05:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 31' Sovereign
1972 31' Sovereign
1983 31' Airstream310
Soddy Daisy
, Tennessee
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 687
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I would also like to get enough to replace my two rear side windows for now due to their condition.
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11-12-2019, 12:00 PM
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#87
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterH-Airstreamer
Since no one ever made a proposal and I just learned that you are in the 3D printing business. let me give a shot.
Damn MH windows are a pain in the neck to reseal, depending on the old channel material being glued or not. Channel material, fuzzy and outside seal run about $25.- per window, so another $10.- per plastic channel ($20.- per windows) sounds like a reasonable amount.
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As Martin mentioned $20/window is what he suggested as well. I think that would/should be enough to cover expenses. As I've mentioned before this is not something I want to make a profit at but at the same time I want to ensure my expenses are covered otherwise it's not worth the hassle to make them.
I'm more than happy to share the files with anyone that wants to print their own. It's not about "the money", I'm just happy to give back to the community a little for all the help they've provided me over the years. Of course I could just as easily call all of you "enablers"......
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The good thing is that you can just walk off and tend to Tommy after it starts printing, you dont have to sit and babysit, or do you?
Would that $10.- be enough to cover your expenses and give you a little profit (printer maintenance fees)? Then of course, you would have to charge for shipping it, as well.
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Speaking of Tommy, he got stocked up with winter hay last week and here's his reaction:
I'll bet you don't get that excited about your food, do you?!
Fortunately no baby sitting of printer is required. From time to time it crashes but it takes care of itself at that point and I just have to clean up the mess.
Currently I can't easily send the files out as my internet connection has been down for close to a week now. AT&T can't seem to function well as a company and everyone is pointing fingers at someone else as to the cause of the problem. When (or if) I finally get connected I'll try and post the files here.
So, if you're interested in the gray plastic window track inserts and would like some, send me a PM and I'll see what I can do. Don't expect immediate delivery because the 3D printing process is NOT a fast process.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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11-12-2019, 12:50 PM
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#88
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Airstream Driver
1994 30' Excella
1992 35' Airstream 350
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,224
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Tommy, that a fine piece of property you have there. Make sure your roommate does not fill it up with Argosys and the likes
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1990 25' Excella Travel trailer
1992 350LE Classic Touring Coach
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11-12-2019, 01:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterH-Airstreamer
Tommy, that a fine piece of property you have there. Make sure your roommate does not fill it up with Argosys and the likes
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First of all, Tommy is a tennant, not a roommate.
Second of all, I make the rules and Tommy follows the rules (yeah right).
And finally the barn is filled mostly with junk which is something Tommy complains about constantly. Being the nice guy that I am I'm planning on disposing of all that junk soon which should make him happier (again, yeah right)
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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11-14-2019, 06:05 PM
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#90
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Rivet Master
1971 31' Sovereign
1972 31' Sovereign
1983 31' Airstream310
Soddy Daisy
, Tennessee
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 687
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Brad,
Thanks for your help on the side window inserts.
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11-16-2019, 05:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cole3444
Brad,
Thanks for your help on the side window inserts.
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Definitely let me know how they work out. There aren't a lot of working examples out there yet!
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
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11-17-2019, 03:16 PM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
Definitely let me know how they work out. There aren't a lot of working examples out there yet!
Brad
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Short update about the ones I got from you Brad. I can confirm that the 2x30in windows in Bella are from the later type (with the metal band around the sliding window). The top slides seem good and still in place, the lower sliders have been changed recently (probably by ASNE), but those replacements although they look the same color as the uppers are a different profile/cross-section. This is allowing the sliders to move around (and rattle).
I have removed those from one window, and fitted two of the ones you printed, but have a problem that I still chasing. Basically they fit but cause the window to be so tight it won't move. I am pretty sure this is not down to your parts but the combination of the new and old. Trouble is I am travelling for the next few weeks, so it could take a while to update again.
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11-17-2019, 04:28 PM
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#93
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Rivet Master
1971 31' Sovereign
1972 31' Sovereign
1983 31' Airstream310
Soddy Daisy
, Tennessee
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 687
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Received my window slides today by USPS a first for a Sunday delivery. Did anyone figure out the best size/style screw to use to secure them. Don't want to damage them. I appreciate Brad doing this for anyone needing these replacement slides. Thanks again Jim
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11-17-2019, 11:01 PM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,535
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cole3444
Received my window slides today by USPS a first for a Sunday delivery. Did anyone figure out the best size/style screw to use to secure them. Don't want to damage them. I appreciate Brad doing this for anyone needing these replacement slides. Thanks again Jim
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Hi Jim, on the one I test fitted, I re-used the ones already there. They look nearly new so were probably replaced when the runner was replaced by ASNE.
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11-18-2019, 08:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
Short update about the ones I got from you Brad. I can confirm that the 2x30in windows in Bella are from the later type (with the metal band around the sliding window). The top slides seem good and still in place, the lower sliders have been changed recently (probably by ASNE), but those replacements although they look the same color as the uppers are a different profile/cross-section. This is allowing the sliders to move around (and rattle).
I have removed those from one window, and fitted two of the ones you printed, but have a problem that I still chasing. Basically they fit but cause the window to be so tight it won't move. I am pretty sure this is not down to your parts but the combination of the new and old. Trouble is I am travelling for the next few weeks, so it could take a while to update again.
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I suppose this is where it's going to start getting interesting. Thinking about it, the original airstream tracks are somewhat flexible in that they give slightly with the weight of the window. I would think there would be a downside that give in that it would be easier to cock the window while trying to open it. The ones I print are pretty much a solid mass so no real give to them.
However you still have the original upper tracks so I would have thought they would provide the give needed for the track to slide. On my test window out in the shop I have my new tracks top and bottom and the window moves just fine with no binding that I could discern. I don't remember whether Magnet18 replaced both the top and bottom tracks on his window or just the bottom ones. Maybe Rob will chime in about his installation.
One thing to try is to flip the pieces 180 degrees and try again. One side of the track is taller than the other.
One of the advantages to 3D printing these pieces is the ease in which changes can be made to the thickness, profile, etc. Not that I want to get into printing custom pieces but that is always a possibility.
Keep me posted on what you find.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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11-27-2019, 06:03 AM
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Rivet Master
Churubusco
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Join Date: Nov 2017
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Chiming,
I just did the bottoms, my tops were in good condition so I didn't see a reason to replace them
I didn't use anything to hold the bottoms in, no screws, hasn't been a problem yet.
The only issue is make sure your window is in good shape, a couple of mine were banged up in the corner from years of slamming open, and that rubbing started to shred the track
If you pull your window out and make sure the frame is nice and straight and without sharp corners, everything should be good
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1983 Airstream 310 Class A Motorhome
-Rob
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11-27-2019, 06:07 AM
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Rivet Master
Churubusco
, Indiana
Join Date: Nov 2017
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Btw, brad when you get internet back, I'd love to have the files as well!
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1983 Airstream 310 Class A Motorhome
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12-08-2019, 07:10 PM
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#98
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 551
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Brad
My rig could use all the sliders reworked. I would like to get some of your pieces. If you could make me a couple I will install them over the winter and see how they work.
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12-09-2019, 11:12 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregsch
Brad
My rig could use all the sliders reworked. I would like to get some of your pieces. If you could make me a couple I will install them over the winter and see how they work.
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Greg, send me a PM with what you think might need.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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12-09-2019, 11:15 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnet18
Btw, brad when you get internet back, I'd love to have the files as well!
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If I remember I'll email them to you this evening.
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