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Old 06-22-2019, 06:08 PM   #1801
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And looking at the switch you selected, you wired both wipers to one switch correct? Do you remember if the switch came with wiring instructions or are the wires marked in any way other than color coded
The switch did come with information indicating which color went where. I ended up creating my own sketch and wired it accordingly. The wires were color coded and come as part of a male 8 pin connector with one extra wire by itself. I used female 1/4" spade connectors and plugged them into each blade in the plug. Pretty straight forward once you see the switch.

Previously I had bought a 100' spool of 4 conductor ribbon cable, the same that you see used on trailer connectors and used that to run from the switch to each of the wiper motors. My wiper motors were from an 86 345.

I believe it worked out pretty well.

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Old 06-22-2019, 06:45 PM   #1802
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You're the best Brad! So much help. I (we) will never be able to repay your kindness, patience, and time you spend helping others here.

Doing a bit more research on that switch and I'm pretty sure that it is manufactured by Cole-Hersee 75601-14. Multiple suppliers online and I ordered it from Amazon, $82.00 includes shipping. I was wondering if you bought the female mate to that male connector that comes with the switch and you've answered that. I did find the female for $.52 but shipping is $7.50 Hehehehe.....plus it looks pretty big. Thank you for the sketch and also there is a wiring diagram on the AM Equipment web site..thanks again Brad!

Here is a link to the sw on Amazon
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Old 06-23-2019, 07:19 AM   #1803
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You're the best Brad! So much help. I (we) will never be able to repay your kindness, patience, and time you spend helping others here.

Doing a bit more research on that switch and I'm pretty sure that it is manufactured by Cole-Hersee 75601-14. Multiple suppliers online and I ordered it from Amazon, $82.00 includes shipping. I was wondering if you bought the female mate to that male connector that comes with the switch and you've answered that. I did find the female for $.52 but shipping is $7.50 Hehehehe.....plus it looks pretty big. Thank you for the sketch and also there is a wiring diagram on the AM Equipment web site..thanks again Brad!

Here is a link to the sw on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Cole-Hersee-7.../dp/B005E9Z6EW
Happy to help Mike

It's interesting you had to pay $82. The link currently shows $67.39.


That was some good detective work on your part to find an alternate cheaper source. I wish I had done that!

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Old 06-23-2019, 09:00 AM   #1804
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How in the hell did THAT happen? The price changed in minutes, dammit. I could order it again at the lower price and return the first one :/
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Old 06-23-2019, 11:53 AM   #1805
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$75.54 + $21.18 shipping when I just checked!
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Old 06-23-2019, 01:17 PM   #1806
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$75.54 + $21.18 shipping when I just checked!
Yup Martin, that's what I paid plus tax was $82...Amazon can be inconsistent, I've had it happen before.
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Old 06-23-2019, 01:51 PM   #1807
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Yup Martin, that's what I paid plus tax was $82...Amazon can be inconsistent, I've had it happen before.
Still shows the $67 price for me. Maybe it depends on how close you are to an Amazon warehouse. I believe I'm fairly close to one.
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Old 06-23-2019, 02:22 PM   #1808
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Rewording my question on the switch, if the old switch is going bad will it cause the wiper arms to not move in sequence, or are the motors starting to go bad. Since a switch is available I want to get my wipers working properly if that is the problem.
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Old 06-23-2019, 02:46 PM   #1809
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Rewording my question on the switch, if the old switch is going bad will it cause the wiper arms to not move in sequence, or are the motors starting to go bad. Since a switch is available I want to get my wipers working properly if that is the problem.
I don't know the answer to that. Since I currently have two switches, one for each motor, sequence for me is how good I am at timing.
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On our 84 310 the wipers have always run at slightly different speeds. I just live with that, but since they have devolved to the point that they only run at high speed, Im going to Amazon for one of these switches. Thank you, Mike and Brad.
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:41 AM   #1811
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I just ordered the switch on Amazon for $67.39 free shipping. Pulled it up earlier and it was 71.00 can't figure their prices out. Waipio Rim described my wipers to a tee so I am going to see if the switch will fix the issue. Thanks for the info and help once again it has made my life easier working on my 310.
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Old 06-24-2019, 01:01 PM   #1812
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Got my switch this morning, dang that was quick. Now we shall see if I can install it without screwing it up. Looks pretty straight forward, between Brads sketch and what they provided with the switch.
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Ok, Ive run into something I'm not familiar with while installing the new Delay-Wiper Switch today. As Ive said, I have two existing wiper switches each controlling one side of my wipers. The first thing I did was to test and label each wire that terminates on the back of each switch. Switch number one has 5 terminals, yellow-blue-black-green-and red wires.
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Yellow is 12vdc+, blue is washer, black is Park,green is ground, and red goes to the motor

Switch number two has 4 terminals, same colors and functions as switch number 1, minus the blue wire for the washer unit.
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On both switches I have only ONE wire going to the wiper motor (red). Testing the voltage at the red terminal in the "low" speed it's 8.7v-9.5. Rotating the switch to the "high" speed voltage tests at a full 12.8v-13.4.......... are there resistors built into these switches????? I fully expected there to be TWO wires feeding the motor, one for high and one for low.

Now I did not proceed with installing the new switch, which is diagramed for a high and a low wire for each motor. I don't think I'll harm anything if I go ahead and see what happens with only the one wire from each motor but who knows?

I tested the voltage several times on both switches in the high and low speeds and it is consistent. I even had Lynn witness the numbers in case I'm going nuts here. Which is highly likely, as we all know.

Sooooo, does anyone have any advice? Thought I might try contacting the Cole Heresee tech support but I wanted to run it past you all in case I'm doing something idiotic here. Any ideas on what might be the situation? The existing wiring looks like factory to me, no signs of any tampering or hacking. I was able to get a number off the switches but no luck on an internet search.

Thank you for any insight....it was going so well and looked so straight forward at first glance (sound familiar for Airstream Motorhomes?)

One idea I had was to go ahead and run a wire 12v to the low positions on the connector for the new switch but I'm wondering if it should be carrying a full 12v. I thought that most wiper motors made the switch between low and high on the motor itself, something to do with the brushes?
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Old 06-24-2019, 07:37 PM   #1815
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Got my switch this morning, dang that was quick. Now we shall see if I can install it without screwing it up. Looks pretty straight forward, between Brads sketch and what they provided with the switch.
What was that Mike? Looks straight forward does it?
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Old 06-25-2019, 07:29 AM   #1818
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Mike,

It's been a LONG time since I worked under the dash of my old 310 so you can take what I say here with a grain of salt. However, from what I remember while I had my head under the dash is the wiper motor wiring is not as straight forward as it appears. On the side of the cab up under the dash I found a series of what I believe are diodes. I think the wiper motor wiring routes through those diodes. Again this is from memory and until I find the service manual I won't know for sure. I don't know what purpose the diodes might have served but I did not include them in the wiring on my Argosy. I could be wrong about what the diodes are for, they could be for something totally different!

I was going to include a page from the 310 service manual but I just found out my website seems to be down so I will have to wait until I get home to find the info.

Here's a picture of the connections on the wiper motors. There are three terminal connections, H, L, P, G.

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In order to properly verify the wiring you should disconnect the wires from one of wiper motors one at a time and see if you can trace them back to the switches using an ohm meter. Disconnect one wire, trace it to where its source is, reconnect it and move on to the next wire until you have them all mapped out.

I don't know that I would just try connecting the wires to the new switch to "see" what happens. Usually in that case bad things happen! Been there, done that

Hopefully I'll find the page in the service manual I'm looking for and will post it this evening.

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Old 06-25-2019, 08:18 AM   #1819
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That's where I'll go next Brad, thank you!
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