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Old 10-28-2018, 08:17 PM   #1541
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OK guys, autoignition temperature of gasoline vapor is 495F, and that vapor is separated by
1. Rubber hose
2. Air gap
3. Metal box
4. Carpet

Not to mention, there is no direct ray path for the stove to "cook" that fuel fill, so it's not going to autoignite.

I still might wrap one of those fire supression tubes around the fuel filler neck, but on the outside, between it and the metal box it's in.



But unless
1. A fire started that will set the whole airstream in flames
2. I'm pumping gas while the stove is burning

I'm not really seeing the risk

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or, more accurately, I'm not seeing it as any more risky than running an electric space heater 24/7
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Old 10-28-2018, 09:15 PM   #1542
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There is no doubt that wood burners put out some of the best heat there is. Ive heated small homes with a wood stove and loved it. I couldn't do it in my 310 though. Couldn't dedicate the space and wouldn't want to deal with the mess. Wood is messy going in and messy cleaning out. If we were more stationary in the use of the rig I might consider it. Plus I don't think I want more tasks to do in order to use the rig, like cutting, splitting, and finding storage to carry the wood. Sounds cool though.
I agree, I'm doing this since I'm stationary and full time for the winter. We may end up full timing somewhere else later this winter, but there's a good chance it's Colorado, so the winter mods will be appropriate.

Honestly winter prepping this rig is a fun challenge for me, especially since most full timers just crowd together in Florida and Arizona and say they would never dream of trying. Don't get me wrong, I'd be in Arizona this winter if I could, but I'm looking forward to tackling the challenge.

I hate the midwest slush February-april, but October-january are some of my favorite months, and I love a good clean snow and a fire
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Old 10-29-2018, 06:57 AM   #1543
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Not to distract from Magnets mobile bomb... ...
Friends of ours just moved from our street and bought a place in Prescott Valley. They were saying they are at 5000 or so, and its been in the 50s all week, but they dont get much rain on that side of the valley. I have children in Phoenix, so when we are ready to escape the Left Wing loonies, thats on my list. I saw a 10 acre plot up in the pines, with electrical and a well already there for $99k!
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Not to distract from Magnet’s mobile bomb... ...
I have children in Phoenix, so when we are ready to escape the Left Wing loonies, that’s on my list. I saw a 10 acre plot up in the pines, with electrical and a well already there for $99k!
So the Right Wing wacko is going to escape the Left Wing loonies and become a survivalist, barricaded in his 345 on 10 acres of pine forest.....this I have to see.

You realize Steve the other survivalists will shoot you, cause your accent an't right boy. I can hear them now.....Dang it; he just don't sound right; he sounds like that crazy guy on CNN.

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Old 10-29-2018, 09:06 AM   #1545
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So the Right Wing wacko is going to escape the Left Wing loonies and become a survivalist, barricaded in his 345 on 10 acres of pine forest.....this I have to see.

You realize Steve the other survivalists will shoot you, cause your accent an't right boy. I can hear them now.....Dang it; he just don't sound right; he sounds like that crazy guy on CNN.

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PS For all that don't know Steve.....he's British, with an accent.
Maybe I can convince Steve to execute my "Mad Mad" airstream 345 dream build

Put a cow catcher on the front, bullet proof guards over the wheels (and replace the rear wheels with treads while we're at it), replace the fiberglass insulation with kevlar, replace the spotlight with a flamethrower...
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Old 10-29-2018, 10:15 AM   #1546
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I agree, I'm doing this since I'm stationary and full time for the winter. We may end up full timing somewhere else later this winter, but there's a good chance it's Colorado, so the winter mods will be appropriate.

Honestly winter prepping this rig is a fun challenge for me, especially since most full timers just crowd together in Florida and Arizona and say they would never dream of trying. Don't get me wrong, I'd be in Arizona this winter if I could, but I'm looking forward to tackling the challenge.

I hate the midwest slush February-april, but October-january are some of my favorite months, and I love a good clean snow and a fire

I'm with ya on hating these Midwest winters. My hate grows as I get older too.
I think the wood stove idea makes a lot more sense in a situation that you describe, full timing and stationary. for several reasons. I know for us, there have been many times while traveling out in Colorado where we were snowed in at a campsite and a wood stove would have been incredible. Good luck with install, looking forward to how it goes and how you like it after a winter. Hope it works out and nothing blows up...
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Old 10-29-2018, 01:58 PM   #1547
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Old 10-29-2018, 03:10 PM   #1548
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We have been heating exclusively with wood for about 20 years. Originally we used a wood stove. Great heat, lots of mess, moving wood inside along with the bugs hiding in the wood. After a few years I plumbed water tubing under floor and installed a wood burning boiler outside.

The new system is quiet, no fans or blowers. The wood is outside, no mess or bugs and the boiler is right next to the wood shed so no carrying wood around. I can't imagine a better system unless I can find somebody to cut and split the logs for me.

I knew a guy many years ago who had a small stove on his sail boat. Finding wood at sea can be an issue so he was set up to burn coal. He had a coal bin and said it lasted much longer than wood and was less hassle. It might be something to think about.
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Old 10-29-2018, 03:40 PM   #1549
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Mayco - I'll be keeping everything updated in my thread

Smartstream - I haven't heard of that for a home, but it sounds like a really nice setup!

One of the reasons I got this stove is it's ability to burn coal, if I want to. I don't necessarily plan on it, other than maybe for fun to try it, but it's nice to know I have the ability to do so. Coal burns hotter and I think longer, so maybe I'll keep a bag around for those really cold nights. If nothing else, the fact that it's designed to handle coal, means I have margin in the design when burning wood, and I don't have to worry about warping or overheating anything. That would have been a concern with some of the lighter-weight, cheaper RV woodstove options
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Old 10-29-2018, 04:21 PM   #1550
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We have been heating exclusively with wood for about 20 years. Originally we used a wood stove. Great heat, lots of mess, moving wood inside along with the bugs hiding in the wood. After a few years I plumbed water tubing under floor and installed a wood burning boiler outside.

The new system is quiet, no fans or blowers. The wood is outside, no mess or bugs and the boiler is right next to the wood shed so no carrying wood around. I can't imagine a better system unless I can find somebody to cut and split the logs for me.

I knew a guy many years ago who had a small stove on his sail boat. Finding wood at sea can be an issue so he was set up to burn coal. He had a coal bin and said it lasted much longer than wood and was less hassle. It might be something to think about.
That sounds pretty incredible Dan! I assume a circulation pump in the system. What a smart idea.
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Old 10-29-2018, 04:29 PM   #1551
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Bob, you keep laughing at me and I'm gonna get some kind of complex! My shrink has already maxed out my medications!
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Ha Ha, buy the way, is that RV permanently parked.....how do you carry the boiler around, you know.....a picture is worth a thousand words, Regards, Bob
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Ha Ha, buy the way, is that RV permanently parked.....how do you carry the boiler around, you know.....a picture is worth a thousand words, Regards, Bob
Boiler is mounted in place of the spare tire with a trailer hitched up behind, full of coal......don't forget the chimney with black smoke pouring out of it.

It could be done; just had a mental picture of me driving hell bent for leather down the snowy winters road, black smoke pouring from the chimney and Gabby, shovel in hand in the trailer, stoking the fire for all she's worth. Now that would get a few looks!

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Boiler is mounted in place of the spare tire with a trailer hitched up behind, full of coal......don't forget the chimney with black smoke pouring out of it.

It could be done; just had a mental picture of me driving hell bent for leather down the snowy winters road, black smoke pouring from the chimney and Gabby, shovel in hand in the trailer, stoking the fire for all she's worth. Now that would get a few looks!

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The mental picture is priceless!!!!!
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With you guys I should have specified the boiler is for my house, not RV. You just can't get away with anything around here.

The boiler is from Central Boiler in Minnesota. It is basically a 200 gal water tank with a fire box in the middle. I normally fill the fire box once a day. There is a thermostatically controlled damper that keeps the water between 175F and 195F. The thermostat in the house controls a small water circulating pump. The hot water is plumbed underground to the house and through a mixing valve to drop the temp to 130F and than through 1600' of tubing, attached to the underside of the floor, and back to the boiler. It's a very simple system and other than many days spent under the house running and securing tubing, easy to install. My firewood operation is another story.

Now back to the alumasylum.
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With you guys I should have specified the boiler is for my house, not RV. You just can't get away with anything around here.

Now back to the alumasylum.
Dan

We know, it was just Bob wondering how to make a boiler mobile; I couldn't resist.

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That's easy Tony, they call them steam locomotives and they ran on tracks. Stanley also put them in cars.
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Boiler is mounted in place of the spare tire with a trailer hitched up behind, full of coal......don't forget the chimney with black smoke pouring out of it.

It could be done; just had a mental picture of me driving hell bent for leather down the snowy winters road, black smoke pouring from the chimney and Gabby, shovel in hand in the trailer, stoking the fire for all she's worth. Now that would get a few looks!

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Hows them meds Tony, i think you're confusing an airstream with a steam engine
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With you guys I should have specified the boiler is for my house, not RV. You just can't get away with anything around here.

The boiler is from Central Boiler in Minnesota. It is basically a 200 gal water tank with a fire box in the middle. I normally fill the fire box once a day. There is a thermostatically controlled damper that keeps the water between 175F and 195F. The thermostat in the house controls a small water circulating pump. The hot water is plumbed underground to the house and through a mixing valve to drop the temp to 130F and than through 1600' of tubing, attached to the underside of the floor, and back to the boiler. It's a very simple system and other than many days spent under the house running and securing tubing, easy to install. My firewood operation is another story.

Now back to the alumasylum.
Sounds like a sweet setup!!
I've seen that done with on demand water heaters, in an rv even, but I've never heard of doing it with wood, very cool!
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Tony, lets be very clear.... I am English, therefore I do NOT have an accent.
Everyone else does.
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