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Old 07-20-2017, 07:16 PM   #1001
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Thank you Brad, I may take you up on your offer depending on what I find. I didn't get a chance to get up there today.

Bob, that's a very cool idea. Did you go wireless or hard wired. Depending on where the existing wire enters he roof, I might be able to use it as a pull wire..it would be lucky but might work.

I use that camera quite a bit on the road. After it went kaput, I found myself glancing at it while driving and realized how much I use it.
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Old 07-20-2017, 07:42 PM   #1002
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Thank you Brad, I may take you up on your offer depending on what I find. I didn't get a chance to get up there today.
I didn't get a chance to get pictures tonight, was working on Peanut. I'll get them first thing in the morning.

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Bob, that's a very cool idea. Did you go wireless or hard wired. Depending on where the existing wire enters he roof, I might be able to use it as a pull wire..it would be lucky but might work.
Not a chance of using the old wire as a pull wire. The existing wire is tie wrapped, glued and clamped in place from front to rear along with all the other wires running along the top of the coach.

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I use that camera quite a bit on the road. After it went kaput, I found myself glancing at it while driving and realized how much I use it.
Hopefully Bob explains what wiring he used to go from the camera to the front of the coach. I do know the old cable is a multi conductor cable with probably 6 to 10 small gauge wires. I still have the entire bundle I removed from the 345. I would think you could make use some of the existing wires out of the existing bundle.
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Old 07-20-2017, 07:53 PM   #1003
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You can use the existing wiring....no problem. Regards, Bob
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I'd imagine the Alpine unit that Bob installed probably pulls a lot less juice than the old OEM units, so Mike I'd say you're good to use the old wiring. Probably get a whole lot better resolution and panoramic view with a new unit.

I've read that wireless units get iffy at over 17' of length.

I never have to worry about my back up camera breaking down as I swear she'll drive me into the ground first. The big problem I have with my back up system, is the hands start out 3' across and then all of a sudden go to 2" if I so much touch the gas.

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Old 07-21-2017, 11:30 AM   #1005
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Mike, here's the pictures I promised.

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I tend to agree with Bob and Tony about installing something new. However if you want to stick with what you've got and these match what your's then you're welcome to them.

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Old 07-21-2017, 12:45 PM   #1006
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Thank you Brad. I got distracted and was doing some work on my genset...that never happens right? That looks very similar to mine, I need to get some pics up so I can show the wire that runs to the camera. There is some device in the wire, a few feet from the camera on the roof that's encased in some type of epoxy or something. It would be fantastic if I could use the existing wiring. I assume it's a multi-conductor wire. Its friggin miserable up here in central IL. Imagine its the same down in Kentucky. 95 degrees right now with 85-90% humidity so not doing a lot outside. I can't believe I used to put in 8hrs a day out in this weather...that's for the young-n-s.
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Old 07-21-2017, 12:48 PM   #1007
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I'd imagine the Alpine unit that Bob installed probably pulls a lot less juice than the old OEM units, so Mike I'd say you're good to use the old wiring. Probably get a whole lot better resolution and panoramic view with a new unit.

I've read that wireless units get iffy at over 17' of length.

I never have to worry about my back up camera breaking down as I swear she'll drive me into the ground first. The big problem I have with my back up system, is the hands start out 3' across and then all of a sudden go to 2" if I so much touch the gas.

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Old 07-21-2017, 03:48 PM   #1008
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Some pics of the existing install. I'm wondering about that device that's inline with the wire, could be as simple as a connector of some type that they weather proofed. Whatever it is I suppose I could splice new wire from there to the camera. I was able to find a wiring diagram for this old model
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Time to upgrade !
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Old 07-21-2017, 05:59 PM   #1010
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Old 07-21-2017, 06:16 PM   #1011
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Mike, that's an interesting cable arrangement. On the 86 345 the cable went from the camera down into the shell and ran inside all the way to the front.

It's as if yours is more like an afterthought.
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Old 07-21-2017, 06:27 PM   #1012
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I agree, it enters the skin through the refrigerator vent. I haven't tried to trace it after that. I found it under the dash though. Ill look more tomorrow. Heck it may run down and through the floor but I've not run into it while working on other things under the rig. It will be easy enough to find if that's what it does.
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Old 07-24-2017, 04:15 PM   #1013
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I'm gonna put the camera on hold for the moment....man the options are unlimited. In the mean time I'm going to bite the bullet on new captains chairs. I thought we might start by taking a couple days and head over to Elkhart Indiana and snoop around at the numerous vendors over there. Not too far of a drive for us and we will just camp for a couple days.

I'd love to know what any of you have done if you've replaced your driver and navigator seating. I see three or more options, have the existing seats redone with new foam and fabric to match our rebuilt sofa, buy new seats, try to find used seats from CL or a salvage yard, or find seats from a different vehicle and repurpose them for our captains chairs. (I think that's what Martin did. Ive been poking around looking at seats out of Sienna vans)

Brad, what are you planning to do with your Argosy seating?

Any advice you guys could give me on what you have done or what you might do for replacement. Any preferred vendors or particular seats out of a vehicle for repurposing for captains chairs? Having my existing seats rebuilt is probably the most epensive option.
Manual seats are fine with us but nearly all the used or surplus seats I've seen are power. I'd like to use our existing seat bases, they do have the standard 8"x 11" bolt pattern.

I'd appreciate any thoughts or recommendations you might have for me. We don't mind traveling a ways to get this done. What do you fellas think about the options here?

Thank you as always for your thoughts,

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Steve (Keyair) used seats out of a Range Rover....which if I know the Lucas, the Prince of Darkness, will one day start inexplicably moving forward, jamming Steve up against the steering wheel or start tilting back for same reason.

Any seat can be made to fit IMHO, so go out testing some seats until you find the best fit. Toyota's tend to have good comfortable long distant seats as well as Volvo's. Stay far away from Ford, GM or Chrysler.

I can vouch for the Nissan Altima as my 3.5 SE seats are awesome and I can drive for hours in them. I do like Volvo seats as I did sit in a new Volvo XC90 at the autoshow......imagine your buttocks are cradled in the hands of God.

https://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/t...back-pain.html

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Old 07-24-2017, 06:16 PM   #1015
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Old 07-24-2017, 10:41 PM   #1016
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I bought a pair of seats from this outfit http://www.discountvantruck.com/
I had them made up the way I wanted and I have been quite happy for about 50,000 miles in them. I understand the fit of a seat in a nice sports sedan but I don't drive my moho like a sports sedan. I prefer a more relaxed comfort in the moho.
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If you go to Elkhart stop in the RV/MH Hall of Fame. A few years ago Rita and I spent an afternoon there. Many interesting older trailers and motor homes were on display.
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Thanks for that link Dan. Ive run across their web site before I think.

Will do Lance!
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Mike, I'm going down the same path Martin did with the Stow-n-Go seats out a Dodge Caravan.
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I bought two 7" seat pedestals and two 6-way power pedestals to mount the seats on. Using some 1/4" x 2" flat bar stock I fabricated some adapters to bolt the power pedestals to the fixed pedestals and to the seats.

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I can't vouch for comfort but Martin's been using them for a while now so hopefully he will chime in with comments. Total cost with power pedestals, seats and fixed pedestals was about $1000.

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That looks pretty sweet Brad.
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