Magnet18's 1983 310

[bobmiller1]

The Halon system is great for enclosed spaces, however it is not for our application, the fan and road wind would dissipate the Halon and make it ineffective for fire suppression. The foam is a much better choice. Regards, Bob

[Magnet18]

Got it, so this one then

BD-SS100AF-RH 2 Liter. AFFF Foam Remote Head with 4′ cable
165F or 286 F temperature trigger
Cylinder size: Size-17” x 4.25”

Is one head enough for our engine bays? Wondering where the best place to mount the head is

[chiefair]

another option: https://www.elidefireus.com/product-...-ball-4-inches

[Magnet18]

Hadn't seen the little balls, but I had seen these

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KT9JZ6M...ing=UTF8&psc=1

I think i agree with bob, foam is probably the way to go for our very open engine bays, I think these are meant for small compartments. May throw one in the generator bay though.

[bobmiller1]

Pictures of the install (for reference) from the 325LE fire suppression install are on my other thread “It’s Never Done”. I used 2 heads on the engine, 1 for the generator, and one for the refrigerator. Although the generator is an enclosed cabinet, whether driving or stationary the generator is air cooled so the fan to cool the generator creates a lot of wind. Same goes for the refrigerator, the louvers on the outside create an environment which does not work well with Halon. Regards, Bob

[Magnet18]

Originally Posted by bobmiller1

Pictures of the install (for reference) from the 325LE fire suppression install are on my other thread “It’s Never Done”. I used 2 heads on the engine, 1 for the generator, and one for the refrigerator. Although the generator is an enclosed cabinet, whether driving or stationary the generator is air cooled so the fan to cool the generator creates a lot of wind. Same goes for the refrigerator, the louvers on the outside create an environment which does not work well with Halon. Regards, Bob

Thanks for the info

I think, unless you have suggestions for a better way for an end user to get their hands on a system, or any other sources, I really don't see many online, I'll probably order one of the 3 liter dual head units here when I drop the airstream off for 3 weeks to have it polished

http://www.firefightproducts.com

They have a Dual head with 4 ft and 6 ft hoses, 286* trigger point, for $625


The generator is only ever used for 30 seconds at rest stops, and destined to be replaced with a lithium setup someday.


The fridge needs protection. Lots of companies make little automatic solutions but they're all powder or halon/HFC227.

A 2 liter bottle just for the fridge/genset doesn't make sense... I don't want to spend forever running more lines... Thinking it over

[Magnet18]

Also, *VERY* glad I got the M&S tires on the duals.
With the centramatics, zero road noise from them as far as I can tell.

[bobmiller1]

Firefight products is where I got the goods (Florida), have them keep the stainless lines, they’re never the right length, and substitute the hoses for 2 more heads. Get the 286 heads. Don’t shortchange yourself, this luxury option is for total loss only. Do it right, should you ever need it you will not regret spending the time making up the lines. If your motor home catches fire on the highway by the time you pull over it will be to late. Imagine lifting the dig house cover off while you’re sitting next to it at 65 MPH. Regards, Bob

[dadstoy]

I see someone else likes to go "glamping" in the snow!

[Magnet18]

Originally Posted by bobmiller1

Firefight products is where I got the goods (Florida), have them keep the stainless lines, they’re never the right length, and substitute the hoses for 2 more heads. Get the 286 heads. Don’t shortchange yourself, this luxury option is for total loss only. Do it right, should you ever need it you will not regret spending the time making up the lines. If your motor home catches fire on the highway by the time you pull over it will be to late. Imagine lifting the dig house cover off while you’re sitting next to it at 65 MPH. Regards, Bob

Thanks for the info Bob.

I will certainly be installing something at a minimum in the engine bay. Like you said, if a fuel line bursts at 65mph spraying right on the exhaust - that's a very bad day.

I'm not opposed to running lines for the genset and fridge, might just wait until this fall when I'm back at the workshop to do it with a second bottle. Thinking about doing it outside on the ground somewhere in the southwest surrounded by cacti and fighting off fire ants... yea, maybe this fall.

[Magnet18]

On a similar note, had the 310 agreed value bumped up to 50,000 on a full timers package. $50k agreed value 1k deductible, 5k contents coverage $100 deductible.

$58/mo, seemed like a good deal. I checked the fine print and got in writing that it's agreed value and for full time travel. Not sure if someone fat fingered something but I'm not complaining.

[Magnet18]

And got blackstone report back on the first oil change. Nothing alarming.

[cole3444]

Here are the different types of the fireballs
Class A - Dry fires (wood, paper, fabrics), Class B - Fatty Lights (Flammable Liquids, Plastics), Class C - Gas Lights (propane, butane, etc.), Class E - Lights of Electrical Origin, Class F - Lights related to cooking.
This could be expensive depending on uses. Foam works better and being a firefighter for over 46 years its quick and dependable with a lot less mess.

[bobmiller1]

I was a fire fighter in New York for 12 years.....:you forgot to mention class “D” and what it was used for .......a little trivia ???? Regards, Bob

[rmkrum]

Originally Posted by bobmiller1

I was a fire fighter in New York for 12 years.....:you forgot to mention class “D” and what it was used for .......a little trivia ???? Regards, Bob

If memory serves, Class D is flammable metals, like magnesium and the like. Tough to put out and requires special methods and agents.

Navy had a nasty shipboard fire during the Vietnam era when a magnesium flare cooked off and the guy tossed it back into the flare locker and slammed the lid. Bad move, to put it mildly. Better move would have been to jettison it over the side or dump the locker over the side immediately. Most dangerous munition on a ship.

[bobmiller1]

Excellent......mostly painted yellow, we only had 1,very costly to recharge. It was kept on the rescue truck which was first to respond on the parkways/expressways, Ansul was the vendor, never had to use it, but was trained on it. It sprayed out a purple colored jelly that would cover the burning metal. Regards, Bob

[cole3444]

Forgot about that one, we liked to spray water on magnesium and watch the pretty show.

[Magnet18]

One thought on those foam extinguishers, do they work in sub zero weather? Wondering if I need a heating element on it for cold weather travel.

[Magnet18]

And if you ever want a fun show, light a piece of magnesium and sandwich it between two blocks of dry ice.

[Magnet18]

After too long fighting the tiny fasteners in the biting wind laying on gravel and ice... Finally got it mounted down in there. Let it come up to temp and everything looks dry, fingers crossed it stays that way this time

Checked all the fluids including brake, all look good.

Put an always-hot outlet in the honda for the blue ox, should be able to unlock the steering, pull the main fuse, and use that. The blue ox draws about as much as a phone charging, should be able to go 12 hours no problem

Tpms should arrive yet today, fingers crossed for hitting the road at sunrise tomorrow and arriving at Peter's Sunday!