Magnet18's 1983 310

[Magnet18]

Yes, part of the reason i chose this one which is slightly more expensive (and 3x heavier) than the similarly sized competition, is it is designed to be able to burn anthracite coal, if you need the extra BTUs and don't mind smelling like a powerplant (from what I've heard)

Complete with riddling grate and a coal bar on front so you can pile it in

I'll be buying a small bag eventually to experiment with just for kicks

Edit
Or getting a bag for Christmas

[Isuzusweet]

Originally Posted by Magnet18

Yes, part of the reason i chose this one which is slightly more expensive (and 3x heavier) than the similarly sized competition, is it is designed to be able to burn anthracite coal, if you need the extra BTUs and don't mind smelling like a powerplant (from what I've heard)

Complete with riddling grate and a coal bar on front so you can pile it in

I'll be buying a small bag eventually to experiment with just for kicks

Edit
Or getting a bag for Christmas

Cool! I was just thinking it would be easier to burn coal, or version of, to A) limit combustibles in or near the Airstream; and B) keep the creepy crawlers down to a minimum as well, and C) longer burning time.

As for a bag of coal for Xmas......cool Xmas gift for the DW.

Cheers
Sidekick Tony

PS What are your plans for a chimney? Will it have enough clearance to the A/C shroud, (combustible); and will it be removable, as the height above the A/C could pose a travelling problem? Could it be vented out the wall? What clearances from the wall of the chimney to the pink insulation in the walls will you need?

[bobmiller1]

I don’t know.....correct me if I’m wrong......the BTU rating of your wood/coal furnace is 10,000 correct ??? The BTU rating of your original propane furnace is 30,000 BTU, correct ???? What am I missing here ???? Do you have another source of heat ??? Is your original furnace still in place and working and is the new wood/coal stove for decoration or supplemental heat ??? Regards, Bob

[Magnet18]

So Bob, 10K BTU is the label on the box, actual output is 10-20k. But constant, whereas unless you set the furnace to 90 degrees, it kicks on and off. Yes, it's supplemental, to keep the propane bill down. Don't forget I just replaced that furnace last month. I can get seasoned firewood for free, so hopefully between that and the fact that my (50A) electric is unmetered, I can keep the propane use to a minimum. I've done the thermal heat loss calculations, if it gets to -20F, with worst case assumptions, I should only need 2 of the 3 heat sources to be comfortably warm, so this way I have redundancy. I think I uploaded that spreadsheet in the other thread I started on this if you're curious.

Tony, yea, I had the same thought on the advantages of coal, will definitely be trying it out!

Chimney will be through the roof, the same stove company sells double walled ceramic insulated chimney and various install kits, including airstream. Don't recall the airgap needed to the double wall chimney, but the bracket you use to pass through the roof takes care of it. Chimney will terminate a few inches above roof, and there is a very easy way to swap between a solid driving cap, and another 20" section of chimney with cap to get well above the roof. Does require getting out a ladder, but I don't plan to use it in a Walmart parking lot.
Now that I've got the stove sitting in my closet, I'm more confident than ever that it'll fit the space acceptably, even just ordered a rear exit T instead of venting out the top, as I think there'll be enough space.

[Magnet18]

Planned install space. But elevated, possibly with a splendide below it, tape lines on the wall for reference.

Keeping all the original closet materials, so I can delete it if needed, and unless you're looking at the patch from the roof you'd never be able to tell. That's the plan for now anyway.

[Magnet18]

https://www.tinywoodstove.com/store/

Bob will be happy to know they have a real human with a phone number you can contact for ordering or customer support . I've gotten on a first name basis

[WayneG]

Sounds like a fun project. I like my 48K BTU wood pellet stove at home, I guess they make small versions, but carrying 40 pound bags of pellets on the road, would kill the advantages.
Just be sure you have a good CO and smoke detector installed

[Magnet18]

Yep, good CO detector was the first thing I did!

Wouldn't mind a low oxygen sensor, but those are expensive and I need to work out if it is or isn't a waste of money with the CO and Smoke already in place

[Magnet18]

Step 1, carefully dissassemble and set aside the closet parts

[mayco]

You're not going to need any blankets in the bedroom. My wife would love being that warm but it would drive me out of the room. ( I can sleep with a window open year round)
I wonder how much heat is going to be transferred up front in the living space. I had always thought of trying to fit a wood burner up front somewhere but could never think of a good spot. Good luck with the install, cutting that oblong hole in the roof is always a bit tricky to get it relatively tight to the chimney. The flashing covers it though.

[Magnet18]

Thanks Mike
I figure in case of propane/electric outage, the bedroom is where I'll want the heat the most anyway

For heat transfer, I'm thinking about putting some small 12 volt fans above the rails in the hallway blowing forward, those computer fans can move a lot of air

Still puzzling over if I'll do rear exit and end up with a reeeaaaaallllyyyy oblong hole near the wall, or top exit which will be way easier but will make the top of the stove unusable, or maybe even attempt a fancy 30° angled chimney

Will be building out the structure and hearth tomorrow, will be easier to tell for sure

[Magnet18]

A trip to metal supermarket today and things are coming right along, 3/16" aluminum plate with 1" tube and angles, riveted together, lightweight hearth board on top, pretty happy with the structural stability while still being light

[TheGreatleys]

Originally Posted by Magnet18

Thanks Mike
I figure in case of propane/electric outage, the bedroom is where I'll want the heat the most anyway

For heat transfer, I'm thinking about putting some small 12 volt fans above the rails in the hallway blowing forward, those computer fans can move a lot of air

Still puzzling over if I'll do rear exit and end up with a reeeaaaaallllyyyy oblong hole near the wall, or top exit which will be way easier but will make the top of the stove unusable, or maybe even attempt a fancy 30° angled chimney

Will be building out the structure and hearth tomorrow, will be easier to tell for sure

Why not a rear exit and two 45s to realign for a more centered roof penetration? That's how mine is set up and I'm really pleased with it.

[Magnet18]

Thanks Dan
45 is what I meant, the double wall is 30 and I got it mixed up
The rear exit pieces should show up today, I'll get that in place and think it through

[TheGreatleys]

Originally Posted by Magnet18

Thanks Dan
45 is what I meant, the double wall is 30 and I got it mixed up
The rear exit pieces should show up today, I'll get that in place and think it through

I'm a big fan of having the large top cooking surface if you have the space to pull it off safely. You can still use a small kettle on the corner if you use the top exit, but it's not the same.

[Magnet18]

Woke up to an excellent view out the kitchen window this morning

[Magnet18]

Originally Posted by TheGreatleys

I'm a big fan of having the large top cooking surface if you have the space to pull it off safely. You can still use a small kettle on the corner if you use the top exit, but it's not the same.

I agree, I looked into kettles only 4" in diameter... Not a very big market

[Magnet18]

So a fever yesterday morning slowed me down, but in the afternoon I managed to shorten the curtain valence by 17" to get it away from the stove.

I realized belatedly that the wiring is on the side closest to the stove, need to work that out

I also finished installing the grey water dump/dry well I set up. Since I live in swamplandiana where the water table is about half an inch below the surface, it may or may not work out well, but hopefully it's a better solution than dumping water all over the yard for this winter

[Keyair]

I’m calling ATF on ya! Lol.
Looks like a great little thing. Amazing that such a small unit can output so much.
Interesting on the pex issue. When they repiped our house they used the Pex pro because they joints had a opaque ring around each joint. I only saw them briefly using a tool that seemed to friction heat the band. I assume it then shrinks tight.

[Magnet18]

Originally Posted by Keyair

I’m calling ATF on ya! Lol.
Looks like a great little thing. Amazing that such a small unit can output so much.
Interesting on the pex issue. When they repiped our house they used the Pex pro because they joints had a opaque ring around each joint. I only saw them briefly using a tool that seemed to friction heat the band. I assume it then shrinks tight.

Alcohol tobacco firearms... Not sure which this is?

Yea, just did a first burn, it definitely puts out the heat!

The pex pro brute force expands it, then you stick the fitting in quickly and it shrinks tight in about 30 seconds, I don't think heating it is the goal, at least not from what I've seen