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12-29-2017, 10:25 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
1986 34.5' Airstream 345
Londonderry
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Mar 2017
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It's cold, the anti-freeze is frozen!
It is 7 degrees F here in New Hampshire and the antifreeze is frozen!
It was below 0 over night.
Pete.
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12-29-2017, 10:34 AM
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Rivet Master 
Currently Looking...
Mantua
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Wow! Did not know that could happen!
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12-29-2017, 10:35 AM
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Rivet Puller
2003 28' Safari S/O
Atlanta Burbs
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I'd say that is sufficient evidence to move south, but that's just me.
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12-29-2017, 10:42 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
1988 Argosy 32
Lomita
, California
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 181
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Change your ZIP CODE Quick, its 78 in so cal ?.
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12-29-2017, 11:11 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Is it a brick, or shush? My understanding is it doesn't freeze solid till the stated temp.
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12-29-2017, 11:27 AM
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Rivet Master
2009 27' FB Flying Cloud
1982 31' International
1991 35' Airstream 350
Jay
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Oct 2006
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The tires are the best way to heat an Airstream.
Key West 78 right now, with 68 for a low this week.......
Regards,
JD
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'09 27FB Flying Cloud;'82 31 International
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12-29-2017, 11:33 AM
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Rivet Master 
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
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It's cold here too!
I'm thinking of putting on a sweatshirt when going outside.
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12-29-2017, 11:34 AM
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Rivet Master
2020 28' Flying Cloud
Upper St Clair
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Air345Fly
It is 7 degrees F here in New Hampshire and the antifreeze is frozen!
Attachment 301584
It was below 0 over night.
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I'd contact the company and if you do, post what they respond with. I can't read the bottle, but does it say where it's manufactured? If China I am not surprised at all as I used to use Chinese manufactured products "to our specs" when I was GM at a company and we had to have engineers to check every shipment as they change the specs often to what they want to make.
Bud
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12-29-2017, 12:44 PM
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Reads a lot
2017 30' Classic
Titusville
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Join Date: Dec 2016
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Well dang! Hope you didn’t put any of that into your car/truck/motorhome/etc. On a more serious note: thank you for reminding all of us to double check where and when the anti-freeze made. Always buy the best you can afford is what my dad used to say but nowadays spending more money on stuff doesn’t always mean it’s the best.
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12-29-2017, 01:17 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1986 34.5' Airstream 345
Londonderry
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 287
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
Is it a brick, or shush? My understanding is it doesn't freeze solid till the stated temp.
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It is like a block of solid with some liquid. I think that it would
be OK to protect piping and tanks from splitting. But it would not work
if you wanted anything to flow like in an engine cooling system.
Pete.
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12-29-2017, 01:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 27' Airstream 270
Scotia
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2012
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With the wonderful NE weather I think I will do a test.
I have 1/2 a jug of Super Tech brand RV antifreeze that is claimed to be made in the USA and the jug says it is good to -50F
Last night it was -3 and I expect similar tonight.
We will see!
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12-29-2017, 01:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Air345Fly
It is 7 degrees F here in New Hampshire and the antifreeze is frozen!
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It was below 0 over night.
Pete.
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What does the label say? This says safe to -50F:
https://www.amazon.com/Winter-eez-Ma.../dp/B001G2PDRG
Yes the stuff turns to slush at first.
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12-29-2017, 01:52 PM
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Rivet Master
Lakes Region
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Feb 2016
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Clearly you are in the southern part of the state, it didn't get above 4° where I am.
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12-29-2017, 02:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1994 34' Excella
Warren
, Manitoba
Join Date: Apr 2006
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You folks are in the warm belt. It is -13F right now with a wind chill of -37F. Tonight is will be -24F and wind chill of -43F. We are in "southern" Manitoba!!! 
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12-29-2017, 02:10 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream - Other
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Bosque Farms
, New Mexico
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The question is not whether it freezes. It's whether it expands when frozen.
Lynn
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12-29-2017, 02:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 27' Airstream 270
Scotia
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,082
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eubank
The question is not whether it freezes. It's whether it expands when frozen.
Lynn
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To test that, one would need a full jug, and maybe top it off to the cap with more AF.
Then take something like masking tape that does not stretch and wrap it around the jug. then do the freeze test and see if the tape or jug splits
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12-29-2017, 02:32 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream - Other
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Bosque Farms
, New Mexico
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Yep, or just set a brand new one outside with sealed lid overnight to see what happens.
When we had the RV park in Angel Fire (ski area), we saw that pretty commonly. Folks would bring the stuff and be amazed. (Those same people were under the impression that just adding some to their black/gray tanks was going to make a difference. It didn't. The tanks usually survived, but the exposed pipes still froze solid, often with damage.)
Lynn
Quote:
Originally Posted by WayneG
To test that, one would need a full jug, and maybe top it off to the cap with more AF.
Then take something like masking tape that does not stretch and wrap it around the jug. then do the freeze test and see if the tape or jug splits
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12-31-2017, 12:52 PM
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2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
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It's designed to freeze but not expand.
Pat
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12-31-2017, 02:58 PM
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Dazed and Confused
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1983 31' Airstream310
Hillsburgh
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Yeah, it's a wee bit chilly outside right now.
The Mistress is in deep hibernation with my making sure her batteries are in +50% mode.
I use automotive coolant straight in the toilet and -45 windshield fluid in the traps.
Cheers
Tony
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01-01-2018, 07:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 27' Airstream 270
Scotia
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,082
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It was -5 last night and my 1/2 jug of -50 RV AF is frozen solid.
So I would say that if it is frozen solid at -5 then -50 on the label is false advertising!
I cant tell if there is any swelling of the jug.
Even if it does not expand, frozen solid AF will give you problems with operating valves or the water pump. I bet if you tried to flex a plastic water line, you may crack it?
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