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Old 08-08-2021, 01:29 AM   #2041
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Old 08-14-2021, 10:18 PM   #2042
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Well having that Saturday night bottle of wine at home since it’s very difficult to drink wine through a gas mask! Click image for larger version

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Some people just never catch on. They never get the hint, even if they are slapped up across the side of the head and told point blank.


Well, on another note, at what temp does aluminum melt?


I have some new parts to install and new tires to put on the Polaris RZR. I was going to head to the ranch yesterday, but it seems that the small fire heading towards the ranch is, well, still heading toward the ranch. Its a small fire at 40,000 acres. California's largest fire at over 500,000 acres is just 75 miles east on the other side of the valley. "Our" fire is pretty much contained except for the south east corner which seems to be uncontrollable and continues to head toward the ranch property. Its only about 6-7 miles away from the west side of the back side of the property.

The fans are for the refrigerator, hoping that I can get the refrig a bit colder on those 105 degree days.
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In an attempt to bury the hatchet…..I’ll try to add some positive ideas on your refrigerator concern. The upper fans are a great idea as I did mine a few years ago. The real issue however is the curvature wall of our Classics. If you go to the Dometic website, under installations, there is a need for a “baffle”. They have some great detailed pictures of what is necessary. The rear wall needs to be 1” from the coils on the back of the refrigerator/freezer. This allows the air to be drawn up through the coils and not around it. Because Airstream decided to omit the baffle installation, it leaves a lot of dead air space in that cavity behind the refrigerator. I took a lot of pictures of my 370LE when I installed the baffle, as well as insulating the side walls and the overhead cabinet which could have been used for a bread warming cabinet before I insulated. In any event feel free to browse my install pictures on my thread. I hope this helps you and feel free to contact me if you have any concerns. Incidentally I can now keep ice cream hard as a rock and my Corona at the proper temperature. Regards, Bob
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Well having that Saturday night bottle of wine at home since it’s very difficult to drink wine through a gas mask! Attachment 401895
Naa, piece of cake. Just poke a hole in the mask and use a straw......
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Old 08-15-2021, 12:51 PM   #2046
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Some people just never catch on. They never get the hint, even if they are slapped up across the side of the head and told point blank.


Well, on another note, at what temp does aluminum melt?
Around 1,200 degrees F.


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I have some new parts to install and new tires to put on the Polaris RZR. I was going to head to the ranch yesterday, but it seems that the small fire heading towards the ranch is, well, still heading toward the ranch. Its a small fire at 40,000 acres. California's largest fire at over 500,000 acres is just 75 miles east on the other side of the valley. "Our" fire is pretty much contained except for the south east corner which seems to be uncontrollable and continues to head toward the ranch property. Its only about 6-7 miles away from the west side of the back side of the property.
I wish I could send you the rain we've been getting. If I was a toad I'd be in heaven


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The fans are for the refrigerator, hoping that I can get the refrig a bit colder on those 105 degree days.
Bob's installation sounds interesting. I'll have to keep that info in mind when I finally get around to installing mine.
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Old 08-15-2021, 07:44 PM   #2047
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Building a baffle behind the refrigerator is also on the list. One of the trailer folks on Airforums pointed me to this great source of manuals...


https://myrvworks.com/manuals/


The cabinet above the refrig definitely could be used as a bread warmer!




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In an attempt to bury the hatchet…..I’ll try to add some positive ideas on your refrigerator concern. The upper fans are a great idea as I did mine a few years ago. The real issue however is the curvature wall of our Classics. If you go to the Dometic website, under installations, there is a need for a “baffle”. They have some great detailed pictures of what is necessary. The rear wall needs to be 1” from the coils on the back of the refrigerator/freezer. This allows the air to be drawn up through the coils and not around it. Because Airstream decided to omit the baffle installation, it leaves a lot of dead air space in that cavity behind the refrigerator. I took a lot of pictures of my 370LE when I installed the baffle, as well as insulating the side walls and the overhead cabinet which could have been used for a bread warming cabinet before I insulated. In any event feel free to browse my install pictures on my thread. I hope this helps you and feel free to contact me if you have any concerns. Incidentally I can now keep ice cream hard as a rock and my Corona at the proper temperature. Regards, Bob
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Old 08-15-2021, 08:08 PM   #2048
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I just googled temps of wild land fires
"Forest fires burn at 800°C (1472° F) to 1200°C (2192° F)"


Damn, I guess that is why we see melted, puddled metal that has run out from under burned out hulks of vehicles!


And continuing on a sad note, the ranch property has just been put on an evacuation warning. Extreme danger over the next couple of days as 35 mph winds come out of the west and northwest. At this point, there is only about 5-6 miles between the head of the fire and the ranch. Even with the hundreds of fire fighters and the command post set up on the ranch, they will pull out if the fire gets to the main compound of the property because of the danger from all the RV gas tanks and propane tanks. I'm getting so tired of this!



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Around 1,200 degrees F.
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That looks terrifying Dean

All you can do is be happy you aren't there at your motorhome, because there is nothing you can do but hope everyone, and then everything is OK
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If that was just a typical sunset picture it would be considered beautiful. Knowing what it really signifies is terrifying.
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The good news is it has an attachment for using something similar to a straw
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Yup, that is what I need! I actually have an Eastern European war surplus one...not as fancy as yours. It actually works.


Speaking of respirators, they should be a part of everyone's tool kit. I'm not a fan of crap tools from Harbor Freight, but I do have the respirator in the attached pic. It works great. I almost passed out once painting the MH's dash board. Its either the prep spray or the adhesion primer that is a killer. The HB respirator solved the problem and I use it quite frequently.



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Very true. If I were up there, I would be just one more body that the fire fighters would have to look out for. Some folks that live up there in the area run up and pull their RVs off property. I have no place to drive/tow the RV/trailers to. A friend of mine, that was like a little brother to me and lived down in the valley with a beautiful home and lots of property, died last year piloting his own aircraft. Otherwise, I would take MH/trailers to his place. I can't bring all 250 miles south to home either. There is only one of me and my better half has no experience driving MH or towing trailers especially down a mountain road. Tires are shot on motorhome, cargo trailer and utility trailer, so probably wouldn't even make it down the mountain with the cargo trailer loaded with my ATVs. Trailers and ATVs are insured but wouldn't even come close to covering cost of new. MH is covered for $5000 (because that is all they will pay), but of course as we know that is not much for the amount we have put into these rigs.


So every year, we just sit and wait!



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Fire has now come over the ridge line seen in pic I posted last night and down the mountain. It is now burning on the west side of the back of the property. Gray area in map pic is "very rough" outline of property. Yellow line is the ridge line seen in pic of last night. Circled red area is the main compound with RV's, cabins, club houses, pools, horse barn, etc. Fire is 2.5 miles from main compound.
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I'm at a loss for words. Insurance coverage is usually never enough to replace what's lost. Based on what you're describing we'll know the outcome of the fire in the next day or two.

Needless to say, that will be one post from you that I likely won't enjoy reading....
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I'm at a loss for words. Insurance coverage is usually never enough to replace what's lost. Based on what you're describing we'll know the outcome of the fire in the next day or two.



Needless to say, that will be one post from you that I likely won't enjoy reading....


Should know even sooner. Full evacuation has been ordered including all fire personal from the ranch. Highway closed 15 miles below ranch. Our head maintenance guy, he is also our own fire chief, has run massive dozer lines around the main compound but with the winds blowing and the fire spotting way out front, I’m not holding out for much hope. Fire had already burned across multiple dozer lines up the mountain.
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I know some may ask what these recent posts have to do with Airstream motor homes and for that I certainly understand. If that is you, please just excuse me and please just move on to the next post.

This month 33 years ago, I bought a share in the ranch. I think it was 12 years ago that my dad passed away and I purchased the MH from the estate and drove it to the ranch. I can't believe we actually made it from Eugene OR to the ranch! My intent was to just keep it up enough to use it at the ranch property when I went up there.

33 years ago it was not that big of a deal to drive 5 hours and 250 miles north on a Friday afternoon or night and then to drive back home on Sunday afternoon. Now at the age of 63 and after hitting a cow 10 years ago 10 miles from the ranch one Friday night at 1am in the morning, those 2.5 day trips are not something I can do. Now when I go up there, I try to stay about 10 days at a time. Soon after bring the MH to the ranch, I decided to get it in shape to take it on some road trips. My brother told me, when my dad passed and I decided to take the MH, that I DEFINITELY do not want that MH! After 12 years and probably at least $25,000, I might have to agree! My husband was not into it at all, even with him growing up going to Yosemite every summer. But, after that first trip to Yosemite with the MH, seeing the waves and excitement of others as we drove down the highway, he became a fan! But! And its a big but. There is nothing in this world that I can do today to get him to go to the ranch. One must understand the culture and politics of the "north" end of Northern California. If I truly had a choice, which maybe I do, I wouldn't deal with those bat **** crazy people up there either. And we will just leave it at that.

About 30 years ago at the ranch, I rode dirt bikes with a group of folks and a young man in the group became a great friend, someone that I though of as a younger brother to me. We had some great times all of us hanging out at the ranch and riding our dirt bikes and atv's, well and drinking beer too! He was an experienced pilot and his girl friend was a helicopter pilot and instructor. Both died last year piloting his own aircraft. So the ranch has meant a lot to me over the years, good and bad.

The ranch is where the MH lives. It is where I have done all the repairs and upgrades to the MH. Its where I can get away and do something other then sit at home in the condo watching TV. We have faced many fires over the years, but nothing like this summer. The fire is definitely burning on the back 14,000 acres but as of this afternoon it has not yet burning on the main compound. I'm not sure that is going to be reality tomorrow morning.

One of the pics posted here definitely wins the "Mad Max Fury Road" photo award! I don't know yet whether or not Dad's Toy will survive or whether I will see a puddle of aluminum the next time I go up there. My feelings are very mixed at the moment.
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In this year of 2021, I'm really dumbfounded that the word ****, "poop" is not an acceptable word to use here on Airforums.com I am laughing my F'ing ass off at Airforums.com right now. When we live in a time that the previous guy can get away with "grab them by the p....", Airforums.com doesn't allow one to use the word ****! WOW!
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Dean, I zoomed in on the this picture. Am I correct in assuming the ranch is in the foreground and those are some of the RVs and trailers visible?

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That is a terrifying picture. I hope you're not second guessing any of the decisions you've made over the years. At a minimum you got to enjoy 30+ years of having the motorhome, of having fun on the ranch and enjoying life. That's more than a lot of people can say about their lives.

By the way, you could always say OH DUNG......
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