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11-10-2009, 06:49 PM
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Silver Bullet
1986 34.5' Airstream 345
choctaw
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Originally Posted by ScrapIrony-2
Hiya Mel,
I'll try this post, again, as the last one disappeared...???
I carry a lot of tools, including a 50 foot airhose with several attachments. I carry spares... fuel pump, belt, hoses, fuel filters, fuel line, and a list of part numbers...and, yes, the spare tire...it's in case whomever changes a flat doesn't have that particular tire available. My wife is unable to drive, so I don't have your luxury of two drivers. I have a bad back, and feel that the cost of waiting on the side of the road or paying for a motel far outweighs the cost of a visit to the ER...what tools do you carry?
mike
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Least it you have what you need, a Good Samaritan will come to you aid when you least expect it. But without the parts and your guidance you are at the mercy of the tow truck.
I have a thread here of my encounter of helplessness in the heart of Ft. Worth one cold rainy morning when all my batteries shorted to ground.
mel
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11-10-2009, 07:50 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2003
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would you like that battery fried or baked?
We are currently in a motel in Durango, Colorado, since the battery thing happened to us 4 miles into our journey to the T2Q3 rally...sitting dead in the water, blocking the southbound lane of 550 ...almost dark, then...got dark quick...me and my trusty flashlight waving at traffic ....sat there for 4 hours(22Degrees with a brisk wind) ...so, we should get it back tomorrow...apparently, it had something to do with the distributor...luckily, the two back batteries were ok...
Isn't it amazing how this started with tires
mike
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1989 345 Motorhome
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11-12-2009, 03:59 PM
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Silver Bullet
1986 34.5' Airstream 345
choctaw
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Yep! I had just got on I-35W in the still wee hours of the morning. I usually don't drive in the right lane on a multi (more the 2) lane highway in stop/go rush hour traffic, but for some reason I stayed in the right most lane. My lights blinked once then I was blacked out in the dark. I did get all the way to the shoulder before she stopped moving. These thinks only happen in the freezing rain, with the wind at 30 mph, in an unfamiliar place. Battery cable shorted to the front shock mount bolt. All 3 batteries died in seconds. Another idea added to the inspection list.
What did happen with the tire? Think I'm lost now
mel
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11-13-2009, 05:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Jamestown
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2009
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makes me want to put the 345 in storage and go back to the travel easy system after seeing all of your break down stories !!!
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11-14-2009, 01:32 AM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2003
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gimme my swagger stick!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Haggard
makes me want to put the 345 in storage and go back to the travel easy system after seeing all of your break down stories !!!
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Naw, just trading war stories...the stories you aren't reading about are those that end so well it makes it worth going through a few hassles...and there are so many good stories...
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11-14-2009, 07:52 AM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Jamestown
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScrapIrony-2
Naw, just trading war stories...the stories you aren't reading about are those that end so well it makes it worth going through a few hassles...and there are so many good stories...
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yes, we keep Ten Semi's and trailers on the road for the farm so Yes, Service, preventative Maintenance service! and a vehicle towed for parts runs as needed I do Understand !!!
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12-10-2009, 09:20 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 28' Safari SE
Currently Looking...
Colorado Springs
, Colorado
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bringing this thread back to tires...
I am about to put new rubber on our Excella 280 (per the date codes I can read, the front two are from early this decade). It sounds like going with Michelins, 225/70R19.5s on the front and 8R19.5s on the rear would work good. The current tires are all load range F. Is that what I should stick with? Also seeing as we have a 280 vs. a 310 or 345 there is no tag axle. Does this make any difference in the tire replacement philosophy?
Thanks,
Ken
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12-10-2009, 09:27 AM
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Rivet Master
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1984 31' Airstream310
Ajo
, Arizona
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I've been more than happy running Goodyear 8R 19.5 G 647-RSS tires, been getting around 80K out of them. Most 310 coaches did not have a tag, to my knowledge. Stick with the load range "F".
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12-10-2009, 11:39 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 28' Safari SE
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Colorado Springs
, Colorado
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Getting quotes
How are these prices? Good or out of line?
Camping World, Good Year G647 - ~$1850
Redburn (Tucson), Michelin XZA & XZE/XZA mix - $2117 to $2130.
Redburn also sells Bridgestone, General and others so they're calling me back with more quotes. A lot of cash for the Michelins for a non full-timer.
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12-10-2009, 11:41 AM
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Rivet Master
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1984 31' Airstream310
Ajo
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I don't trust CW; try a Goodyear dealer.
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12-10-2009, 03:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 28' Safari SE
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Colorado Springs
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Mike,
Goodyear lists Camping World as an authorized dealer for G647. And I'm neutral on the Mesa store. Anyhow Pucells in Tempe gave me a substantially lower quote - $1725 out the door for 6. Best so far.
-Ken
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12-10-2009, 03:44 PM
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Rivet Master
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1984 31' Airstream310
Ajo
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Do it; Goodyear dealers will be a lot happier to fix any problems if they know you bought the tires from one of their outlets, rather than the RV big box store. Come visit when you get new shoes; we're here for the winter,
give us a pm, we'll make it happen for you guys to park next door.
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05-23-2010, 08:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 28' Safari SE
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Colorado Springs
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Psi
What are you guys/gals running for PSI? I realize a 345 might be a bit different then our 280 and we're running the Goodyears. The Airstream spec numbers seem a bit dated. The PO told me 80 PSI all around but that seems a bit high. I think the Goodyear dealer set us at 70/75 F/R.
Thanks,
Ken
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05-23-2010, 08:54 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 31' Airstream310
Dunsmuir
, California
Join Date: May 2004
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I have been told that the 'proper' way to select tire inflation is to weight each axle, then use capacity/inflation information supplied by the mfg. Here's a link to the Goodyear info for RV tires:
http://www.goodyear.com/rv/pdf/rv_inflation.pdf
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Courtesy Parking (W/S/E/Wi-Fi) on I-5 in Northern California, 70 miles from Oregon border
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05-23-2010, 09:56 AM
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Rivet Master
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1984 31' Airstream310
Ajo
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That's a neat tire link, thanks. I run 80 in the front and 90 for the duals. If I'm blasting down I-5, I'll increase the pressure 5-10 psi. I get around 80K out of my Goodyears.
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05-23-2010, 10:43 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 28' Safari SE
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Colorado Springs
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I agree, good link. Looks like 80 PSI is pretty close. Good place to start anyway.
Thanks,
Ken
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05-24-2010, 07:07 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
London
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If you weigh your axles and look up the chart you will find you only need about 50 PSI in the duals and the tag axles on a 345. The 280 only about 45 PSI. The softer tire pressures at the rear really improves the ride and takes a lot of vibration out of the coach. Tire life will be better due to even tread wear.
The front tires need 70-85 in most coaches.
Andrew T
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05-24-2010, 04:31 PM
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Gunter
1966 24' Tradewind
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Greenville
, Ohio
Join Date: Mar 2006
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I thought I would provide an update on tire temperatures after I installed the Michelin XZE 225/70R19.5 Tires on the front and drives and 8R19.5 on the Tags.
Ambient temperature 85 degrees farenheit
Full tank of Gas, Full tank of water
Drove 30 miles.
All tires except for Tags 85 psi
Tags 75 psi
Temperature farenheit
Tire inside middle outside
left front 109 123 122
right front 105 117 105
Drive left outer 121 133 132
Drive left inner 127 129 132
Drive right outer 116 129 127
Drive right inner 124 131 130
Tags left 102 122 115
Tags right 101 114 120
I am awaiting for your comments/concerns especially since the Tags are larger tires than the drives.
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05-25-2010, 10:24 AM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Silverton
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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We put Michelin all around...I have noted that the tag axle tires leave scorch marks when doing a sharp turn in a parking lot...GVO makes about 1 mpg difference for us...not much, but I'll take it where it happens...I do like the sanity of a well-made tire, and I believe Michelin is up to that value...just one man's humble opinion...and 5-6 mpg is not a flattering statistic, but it DOES get me down the road...m
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1989 345 Motorhome
CHARTER MEMBERS: FOUR CORNERS UNIT, AND PROUD OF IT!!!
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05-25-2010, 12:53 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 31' Airstream310
Dunsmuir
, California
Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew T
If you weigh your axles and look up the chart you will find you only need about 50 PSI in the duals and the tag axles on a 345. The 280 only about 45 PSI. The softer tire pressures at the rear really improves the ride and takes a lot of vibration out of the coach. Tire life will be better due to even tread wear.
The front tires need 70-85 in most coaches.
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I agree about the ride. When I ran mine that low, I lost about .5 MPG. So, as a compromise I run 70. The ride is still much softer after replacing Toyo and Bridgestone tires with Michelins.
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