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Old 07-31-2018, 11:00 AM   #1
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Classic motorhome shower pan removal

Ok, as posted in my thread here http://www.airforums.com/forums/f311/magnet18s-1983-310-a-178802-16.html#post2135955
Shower cracked around the drain in my 310, working on getting it out today to try to fix it

Line of screws in front is simple, but I need to drill rivets of one hinge out since it covers a screw... Great job airstream

On the rear side, straightforward, just reaching under the cabinets to get at the screws

I assume there are screws on the forward side as well? I don't have the ice maker, I have cabinets... So it looks like drilling out rivets and taking the cabinets partway apart to get at those?

And the rear... Please tell me there aren't any buck rivets on the outside to drill out or anything
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Old 07-31-2018, 12:31 PM   #3
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Just a couple dozen rivets!
Piece of cake (sarcasm)
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Old 07-31-2018, 12:36 PM   #4
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Struggling to upload pictures for some reason

For the record, it appears I have 2 screws for the shower pan back there

Also at some point a soda can must have exploded back there and never gotten cleaned... Lovely
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Old 07-31-2018, 12:49 PM   #5
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LOL.....been there, done that, Regards, Bob, plan on coming to the ĎGet-TogetherĒ, it appears we have a lot in common, Regards, Bob
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Old 07-31-2018, 12:51 PM   #6
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Just a couple dozen rivets!
Piece of cake (sarcasm)
When I dismantled the 345 the thing that struck me is it appeared that the interior was constructed form the rear forward so if you need to remove something like a bathroom wall the best way would be to remove everything in front of it

Depending on what you're working on there might be work arounds but as near as I could see there was no consideration for any sort of maintenance that might be required later.
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Old 07-31-2018, 01:10 PM   #7
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Ok, i got all the screws out of the front and both sides, but it seems there's some holding it on to the back wall...

Looks like... Pull the front wall out of the shower and pull the whole back wall??

I might try the vibrating saw and see if I can just cut those screws

I'm not a shower engineer, but they seem a bit redundant

Open to suggestions, trying not to completely disassemble the motorhome today
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I found one of these helpful if you can get a opening large enough to insert it into.

https://www.amazon.com/USB-Borescope.../dp/B074KXB3JM
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Old 07-31-2018, 02:57 PM   #9
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Problems solved!
This way the water just runs right down and the floor doesn't get wet.
Plus it saves me a lot of grey tank space!
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"Depending on what you're working on there might be work arounds but as near as I could see there was no consideration for any sort of maintenance that might be required later."

Hehehehehe ...... YA THINK? ZERO, NADA, NONE, I seriously don't think that Airstream design engineers gave ANY consideration to future repairs, maintenance, remove and replace, etc etc etc.

That's why when you are beginning a project on your rig and you give some thought to estimated hours/days to complete, triple it and add 25%. It took me awhile to get this through my thick skull. But it does come into play when trying to complete something before leaving on a long trip. Something that seems so simple, straight forward, "easy" to accomplish will undoubtedly leave you bloody, sweaty, and scratching your head with the spout of a bottle of Jack Daniels.

Oh well.........I love my 310TD.......(I think)


See; REPLACING MAIN DOOR HINGES WITH NEW THAT ARE LABELED UPPER AND LOWER.....only to find out that those labels are for trailers only and just the opposite for Motorhome. No small piece of paper included with new hinges that warns you of this.....
Ive probably hung HUNDREDS of doors as a retired carpenter. Just following the instructions boss! GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZ

ok, I'm done, never mind, sorry for the rant, I believe I'm still bitter about that one
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See; REPLACING MAIN DOOR HINGES WITH NEW THAT ARE LABELED UPPER AND LOWER.....only to find out that those labels are for trailers only and just the opposite for Motorhome. No small piece of paper included with new hinges that warns you of this.....
Ive probably hung HUNDREDS of doors as a retired carpenter. Just following the instructions boss! GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZ

ok, I'm done, never mind, sorry for the rant, I believe I'm still bitter about that one
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Shower pan held to back aluminum wall with rivets.....I was able to get in there with an air powered hack saw......mine is a little different than yours, I guess they all are.....plenty of pictures on my 370 thread, Regards, Bob
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Shower pan held to back aluminum wall with rivets.....I was able to get in there with an air powered hack saw......mine is a little different than yours, I guess they all are.....plenty of pictures on my 370 thread, Regards, Bob
Thanks, had to go buy a carbide vibrasaw blade, on mine the corner rivets were inaccessible from the top and also through an aluminum strip that ran down and was screwed in with 4 screws, so close to the neighboring walls I couldn't get a screwdriver in there... This forum doesn't have a middle finger smiley, but I'll let you imagine a million of them to whoever designed that
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All things told, I'm pretty happy I got it out in half a day
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Now I need a shower
The irony is not lost on me
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I noticed your shower pan supports were plywood and not particle board. I'll have to look at the pictures I took of the 345. It's possible it was the toilet side that had the particle board.

Not to dampen your enthusiasm but now you get to put it all back together again

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I noticed your shower pan supports were plywood and not particle board. I'll have to look at the pictures I took of the 345. It's possible it was the toilet side that had the particle board.

Not to dampen your enthusiasm but now you get to put it all back together again

Brad
Yes, plywood, in better shape than I thought it would be too. I'll remake them. I noticed the hole in the lower one wasn't great, it didn't line up right with the drain, and contributed to the cracking
The upper support had slipped off the wheel well and was no longer functional

Putting it back together, I'm just going to secure the back with vhb tape and/or vulkem, and caulk the tub with vulkem!


Also a warning to others, trying to pry the shower pan out, the corner rivets on the back cracked. A vibrating saw with the blade at a high angle probably could have sneaked back there, and saved me some hassle
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