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Old 04-01-2021, 03:30 PM   #3121
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upcoming auction for '85 classic

I'm european, and I just have to appreciate these rare beasts. on a recent errand here in my city I came across a '85 345 born in june.. just like my wife.. and I just can't get it out of my head ever since. especially with Covid and working from home, I just dream of seeing europe with my family in such a fine motorhome, renting out my home until...

Anyways, I found an auction on copart, and my amateur observation says the damage seems totally fixable and the lady herself seems well kept. wondering what your thoughts are!

https://www.copart.com/lot/36885731/...-ky-louisville

Had I come across this later in my research I might've considered to start bidding.
I need to know a great deal more in terms of what to look for, what parts would be hard to get in europe, and how to get it over the pond.
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Old 04-02-2021, 07:16 AM   #3122
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I'm european, and I just have to appreciate these rare beasts. on a recent errand here in my city I came across a '85 345 born in june.. just like my wife.. and I just can't get it out of my head ever since. especially with Covid and working from home, I just dream of seeing europe with my family in such a fine motorhome, renting out my home until...

Anyways, I found an auction on copart, and my amateur observation says the damage seems totally fixable and the lady herself seems well kept. wondering what your thoughts are!

https://www.copart.com/lot/36885731/...-ky-louisville

Had I come across this later in my research I might've considered to start bidding.
I need to know a great deal more in terms of what to look for, what parts would be hard to get in europe, and how to get it over the pond.
The ABS 'banana wraps' will have to be repaired as they are NLA. Aluminium panels are available from Airstream in US but not Europe (even from Airstream Europe) but can be replaced with aluminium sheet. If the grille/headlight surrounds are damaged (doesn't look like they are, but I include 'in case') they are as rare as unicorns. The biggest challenge is actually the bumper. No doubt it can be repaired by someone with the right skill set (I am thinking of Keyair here!) but you will struggle to get a replacement. In general you are looking to repair not replace.
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Old 04-02-2021, 07:55 AM   #3123
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I'm european, and I just have to appreciate these rare beasts. on a recent errand here in my city I came across a '85 345 born in june.. just like my wife.. and I just can't get it out of my head ever since. especially with Covid and working from home, I just dream of seeing europe with my family in such a fine motorhome, renting out my home until...

Anyways, I found an auction on copart, and my amateur observation says the damage seems totally fixable and the lady herself seems well kept. wondering what your thoughts are!

https://www.copart.com/lot/36885731/...-ky-louisville

Had I come across this later in my research I might've considered to start bidding.
I need to know a great deal more in terms of what to look for, what parts would be hard to get in europe, and how to get it over the pond.

No, no, don't do it. I know of a bumper but the front left and right body panels are no longer available. Granted, with skill and creativity rear left and right panels can be used to repair this unit, but my biggest concern is secondary damage, per the listing: undercarriage. Now thats a wild spectrum of very costly possibilities.
Many units in much nicer condition AND smaller, are on the market all the time and dont worry about the initial purchase price, since it will not matter much when you look at the transport cost, taxes and conversion fees to european laws. When all that is taking care of, the real cost of updating and mechanical maintenance will start. I happen to know of a 310 that may come on the market soon. It was upgraded and meticulously maintained by one of the forum members. He doesn't settle for less and is highly skilled. And then there maybe a 28' 1982 Isuzu Diesel coming up in the great North West, again maintained and upgraded by one of the forums Greats.
Put out the word that you are seriously looking.
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Old 04-03-2021, 06:50 PM   #3124
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@martin300662, @PeterH-350LE, thanks both for looking into this!

I think I saw some place online having fibreglass copies of the bananawrap.

A well kept 28' '82 diesel doesn't sound bad at all! It'd be 40 next year, meaning it would be exempt from road taxes in my country, up to then diesels are taxed around 1500 USD anually. Gas would be taxed a bit less. That means more can go to annual repairs.

What would annual repairs cost? is 2000 USD a good number to set aside?

Compared to the 325/345, will the 28/310 give me more room to negociate uneven roads and incline? I'm concerned by the road clearance and overhang, while my country is flat and has very regulated roads, the rest of europe has more challenging roads.
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Old 04-03-2021, 08:25 PM   #3125
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@martin300662, @PeterH-350LE, thanks both for looking into this!

I think I saw some place online having fibreglass copies of the bananawrap.

A well kept 28' '82 diesel doesn't sound bad at all! It'd be 40 next year, meaning it would be exempt from road taxes in my country, up to then diesels are taxed around 1500 USD anually. Gas would be taxed a bit less. That means more can go to annual repairs.

What would annual repairs cost? is 2000 USD a good number to set aside?

Compared to the 325/345, will the 28/310 give me more room to negociate uneven roads and incline? I'm concerned by the road clearance and overhang, while my country is flat and has very regulated roads, the rest of europe has more challenging roads.

Mikey, 280 or 310 is much better suitable for European small villages...or big, imagine trying to drive through Amsterdam with all the traffic, bicycles and trams

$2000/year sounds about right for maintenance cost, AFTER you have everything working right. Thats why its much better to pay more for a well maintained and restored rig. Trying to get all the parts in Europe is difficult and very expensive.
Are you prepared to already have spent ~40 000 by the time you pick it up in Rotterdam? If yes, you may fulfill your dream. Good luck!
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Old 04-03-2021, 09:55 PM   #3126
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Hi Mikey, I would be the owner of the 280 with the Isuzu known as the "Hagarstream" because our beloved Great Dane "Hagar" claimed it as his coach.

I think Peter may exaggerate a bit in his description of my forum status. I just happen to own two of these old coaches and I like to travel a bit. This requires that I have to keep them operational and being basically frugal, I'm the one doing the work. And to be sure I would much rather be driving a coach then working on it.

Now to your question, your repair cost is 0 if you don't break anything. Maintenance on the other hand depends on who is doing the work. If you can and like to do the work, fluids and most parts are inexpensive. If you plan to pay someone, forget it and buy something new.

The big ticket maintenance item is tires every 6 or 8 years. For repairs, a transmission, alternator, water pump or fuel pump can fail at anytime and must be repaired in order to continue on. Fortunately diesels don't have carburetors, ignition systems and cracked manifolds and such like the 454. For an old mechanical diesel, if you feed it fuel and air, it will run. Also the Isuzu is not a highway engine, it is classified as "industrial" and sold world wide in boat, generator, and heavy equipment applications. You just have to look in a different arena for service and repair.

We can talk forever about driving these old coaches but for real world experience I suggest you check out. https://www.airforums.com/forums/f42...oad-79445.html

Any questions or comments feel free.
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Old 04-04-2021, 06:14 AM   #3127
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Thanks for the link to your thread, and for all the great photos and travel log.

Inspiring in these challenging times . . .

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Old 04-06-2021, 07:07 PM   #3128
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Hi Dan, thanks for joining in and thanks for the link. I'm amazed how friendly people are on this forum. Just want you all to know it's being appreciated.

How could I get started with figuring out what's hard to get (or just not available) in europe concerning the motor side of motorhome? The home part I think I can find stuff for.

The photos are very inspiring indeed. My lovely wife remarked that there's more to see in the US than she thought and for a while we dreamed of where we'd go in the US in our shiny moho. So thanks for that little escape!

My wife really wants me to consider having the family take a long break, we need to change it up. Covid has been rough on everyone, us included.

We are hoping countries in europe will open up after the vaccinations, but on the defensive side, we're thinking early next year. Though our 4yo daughter will by then be 5 and be required by law to attend school. Homeschooling is not common here. I won't rush it just so we can do this before she's 5.

So far my consideration of buying an AS motorhome is part grandiose, part running numbers. If we really go ahead with this, we'd be full timing it, atleast for several months.

I'd rather do slow travel, I don't need to be at the best spots. I just want to meet some good local folk, perhaps find a network of people looking to meet up and have kids play and learn. I don't need a toad, we can cycle, maybe ocassionally rent a car, get to know the area well and make some lasting friendships before we move on.

My wife especially wants to travel, me I wouldn't mind landing in Portugal for a long while, sending the kids to school there while living in the motorhome. The Portugese are the warmest hearts I've met so far and they really like to chat too. And what they call cold is t-shirt weather for me.
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Old 04-07-2021, 12:20 AM   #3129
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I'm not sure the situation in your area but I would look in older industrial areas. Big cities have a lot of remove and replace fast moving parts supply houses while older industrial, marine and farm areas have shops that actually repair and rebuild starters and alternators and other external engine parts. The fuel injection system is common and can be repaired/rebuilt by any truck fuel injection shop. Engine parts like an in-frame rebuild kit might be tough but not impossible. The engine a 6BG1 is industrial but virtually identical to the highway version but the same part will have an industrial and highway part number and the two divisions don't talk to each other very well. The old parts guy in the back of the shop is your friend.

If you own one of these coaches you should want to and be able to work it yourself or have a good friend to help. The coach will take you anywhere but you have to treat it right and tinker with it on occasion. Much like an old British sports car.

I'm glad you enjoyed following our trips. My wife takes all the pictures, I just drive and Hagar told me where to go. We didn't bring a toad and didn't miss it. I felt if an establishment didn't want us or have room for us then they didn't need our money either.

I have run into several people who have shipped their RV's from Europe, driven around the US and Canada for several months and then shipped them home. One couple had done it four times.

Feel free to drop me a PM if you like.
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Loads of good parts (windows, front bumper, grille, even Nick's steering wheel!) not sure if it could be dragged up onto a trailer to move!

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Whatís with the attitude in your first post?
If you read thru the 200+ comments, I got the distinct impression that they were fishing for buyers, and would sell if they got the right offer.

Itís an amazing find, a real time capsule, worthy of posting here, because I believe it will be for sale.
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Loads of good parts (windows, front bumper, grille, even Nick's steering wheel!) not sure if it could be dragged up onto a trailer to move!

I don't think that's the Classic style steering wheel. It looks more like the original that was in my Argosy. Sorry Nick!
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LOL, not at that price......Iím waiting for Nancy and Richards or Kotaís.
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