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Old 11-02-2017, 08:22 AM   #2201
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I wish I knew what mine is now rated. The work on it was done before I owned the rig. I meant to look at some of the other hitches while at the get together and never got around to it. I'd like to see one that is still factory so I'd know what all has been added to mine. Its been gusseted and additional support steel from the factory hitch angled up and forward to a cross member between the rails. Hard to get a picture under there.
Look at post # 18 to see pictures of how I did my 310 hitch upgrade.

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Old 11-02-2017, 08:41 AM   #2202
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Cool, thanks Brad!
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Old 11-02-2017, 11:28 AM   #2203
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Cool, thanks Brad!
I'm rating yours at 5001lbs buddy.

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Old 11-02-2017, 02:31 PM   #2204
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I'm rating yours at 5001lbs buddy.

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I was shooting for 5,013 lbs.....
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Old 11-02-2017, 03:34 PM   #2205
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I was shooting for 5,013 lbs.....
If you use a bungee cord from the receiver to your frame, you can have 5,013......but not an ounce more, clear?

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Old 11-02-2017, 03:39 PM   #2206
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The before and after pics in post 7 of that link you sent Brad give a good look at an unmodified hitch on a 345. The mods you made to the 310 look like it would pull Johns dump truck.
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Old 11-02-2017, 04:07 PM   #2207
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Went out and got a couple pics of mine. Not nearly as beefed up as what you did Brad but did add some strength in the weakest areas...

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3" x 1/2" flat stock from the back of the 2" tube to the cross member between the frame rails. Probably adds some good added strength to pulling but maybe not as much for stopping.

I think it's plenty strong to carry my motorcycle at about 270lbs wet.
Maybe........going to take a short trip next week with the bike on. The carrier is aluminum and probably in the range of fifty to sixty pounds.
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Old 11-03-2017, 06:02 AM   #2208
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If you use a bungee cord from the receiver to your frame, you can have 5,013......but not an ounce more, clear?

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I'll take what I can get
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Old 11-03-2017, 06:09 AM   #2209
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The before and after pics in post 7 of that link you sent Brad give a good look at an unmodified hitch on a 345. The mods you made to the 310 look like it would pull Johns dump truck.
Towing this trailer and car configuration was never an issue. Trailer was probably around 1,000 lbs and the car weighed in somewhere in the 2,100 range. The tool box was typically filled with a LOT of tools, spare parts, etc. and I estimated the towed weight at around 3,500 lbs.
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The 454 powered 310 would pull up the grades just fine. Normally I do my own welding but in the case of the welding for the hitch I opted to have a friend of mine who was a certified welder do the final welding. Better safe than sorry!

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Old 11-03-2017, 06:12 AM   #2210
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Went out and got a couple pics of mine. Not nearly as beefed up as what you did Brad but did add some strength in the weakest areas...

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3" x 1/2" flat stock from the back of the 2" tube to the cross member between the frame rails. Probably adds some good added strength to pulling but maybe not as much for stopping.

I think it's plenty strong to carry my motorcycle at about 270lbs wet.
Maybe........going to take a short trip next week with the bike on. The carrier is aluminum and probably in the range of fifty to sixty pounds.
Mike, your hitch is easily good for what your plans are. I might have gone a little overboard on mine due to the first motorhome we owned where the extended rear frame was a real disaster. With a trailer connected to it you couldn't open the entry door located at the passenger side rear of the coach!

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Old 11-04-2017, 08:49 AM   #2211
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Towing this trailer and car configuration was never an issue. Trailer was probably around 1,000 lbs and the car weighed in somewhere in the 2,100 range. The tool box was typically filled with a LOT of tools, spare parts, etc. and I estimated the towed weight at around 3,500 lbs.
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The 454 powered 310 would pull up the grades just fine. Normally I do my own welding but in the case of the welding for the hitch I opted to have a friend of mine who was a certified welder do the final welding. Better safe than sorry!

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Ummm, judging by the size of the car trailer and the one I recently used to move Zippy home, I'd say you're a bit off on the trailer weight........The U-Haul version I used weighed 2000 lbs, 250 lbs more than Zippy. I'm not saying that your trailer isn't lighter......but a 1,000 lbs lighter?

I'm also thinking the car must have weighed less than 2,100 lbs as the burb weight of a Spitfire was 1,600-1,800 lbs.....You didn't use solid tubing for you roll cage did you?

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Old 11-04-2017, 09:06 AM   #2212
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Ummm, judging by the size of the car trailer and the one I recently used to move Zippy home, I'd say you're a bit off on the trailer weight........The U-Haul version I used weighed 2000 lbs, 250 lbs more than Zippy. I'm not saying that your trailer isn't lighter......but a 1,000 lbs lighter?
Nope, not off on the trailer weight. The trailer construction was smaller tubing than normally used and less of it as well. If I remember right it had a 14' bed and I eventually added a 16" dovetail to the back. It really was a light trailer compared to others of similar size. I really liked that trailer, it had a nice long tongue and was probably the best one I ever owned.

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I'm also thinking the car must have weighed less than 2,100 lbs as the burb weight of a Spitfire was 1,600-1,800 lbs.....You didn't use solid tubing for you roll cage did you?
Yeah, you're right. I was thinking of my 64 TR4 with a curb weight of 2,130. I think maybe I've owned a few to many Triumphs
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Nope, not off on the trailer weight. The trailer construction was smaller tubing than normally used and less of it as well. If I remember right it had a 14' bed and I eventually added a 16" dovetail to the back. It really was a light trailer compared to others of similar size. I really liked that trailer, it had a nice long tongue and was probably the best one I ever owned.

Yeah, you're right. I was thinking of my 64 TR4 with a curb weight of 2,130. I think maybe I've owned a few to many Triumphs
Yes, a very sweet trailer indeed for that kind of weight.

On a side note; does your X still have the 310, and how did it get that dent in the back end cap?

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Old 11-05-2017, 07:21 AM   #2214
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Yes, a very sweet trailer indeed for that kind of weight.

On a side note; does your X still have the 310, and how did it get that dent in the back end cap?

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Yes, and I don't know how the dent got there. It was there prior to purchasing
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Just to give credit (or blame ) where its due.

It was the sight of Brads rig at the vintage races at road Atlanta about five years ago, that turned on the light for me and led to my 345 that I'm full timing in now.
That was on my first ever RV experence.
A trip with my brother with his 30' classic trailer. Which we parked trackside for the perfect car guys weekend.

Although we Still haven't met is still say BIG MAHALO BRAD!

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Just to give credit (or blame ) where its due.

It was the sight of Brads rig at the vintage races at road Atlanta about five years ago, that turned on the light for me and led to my 345 that I'm full timing in now.
That was on my first ever RV experence.
A trip with my brother with his 30' classic trailer. Which we parked trackside for the perfect car guys weekend.

Although we Still haven't met is still say BIG MAHALO BRAD!

Cheers Richard
Was that shot taken before or after the races?!
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Nice looking '84 310 on ebay.

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[QUOTE=Magnet18;2031490]A beauty!
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