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Old 09-14-2017, 05:45 AM   #2121
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370 for sale on EBay with a $65k Buy it now!
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Old 09-14-2017, 06:07 AM   #2122
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370 for sale on EBay with a $65k Buy it now!
This is an exceptional unit that was for sale in Texas in May of this year. The original seller had it listed on Ebay starting at 15k, with a low 20's reserve. I tried to go see it, but the previous owner already had accepted a deposit.
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Old 09-14-2017, 07:11 AM   #2123
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The original owner in Texas sold it to this guy in Ohio for $22,000.00, the very next day he put it for sale in the Airstream Classified section of our forum for $75,000.00, which he later lowered the price to $65,000.00, I spoke to Ted Smith in Texas in great deal and purchased a brand new 370 rim from him, a rebuilt air compressor, and 1 new Michelin tire, he couldn't beleive it either when he saw the 370LE for sale at that price either. Regards, Bob
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:03 AM   #2124
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Yup. I narrowly missed buying a '82 Classic 27' locally a few months back. The person who bought it paid less than $3k I gather and is looking for $20k now. I think it will need a lot of TLC as it had been sitting for 10 years plus.
I just thought I could rescue it from sitting behind someone's house and release it back into the wild again!

I'm all for making a buck, but it's difficult to know what some units are worth or what they will need.

The good news does seem to be that values are rising which makes me happy. To know that the time and effort needed to own and use these queens of the road will be worth it longer term!
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Old 09-15-2017, 09:28 AM   #2125
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My opinion:

I'm 34, so younger then most airstream motorhome owners. I believe these one day will be a hot commodity. I actually sold my 34 3w Henry ford coupe hotrod and 2 months later decided to go with a 28foot classic and treat this as my new hotrod going forward.. The dark days of these being worth a couple thousand will pass and perhaps it's happening now.

There are many challenges with these units. The worst is transportation. A unit sits 10 plus years which I think is the average time right now as I write this. Let's face it these were not built to a high standard, the premium these originally sold for in my opinion was within airstream product ( motorhome). The materials used from Chevrolet parts bins have not weathered the test of time. The chassis's have a consistent 90,000miles these days and require substantial amount of work which average garages cannot or do not want to do. Many people dream of different interiors and putting there own spin on customization.

with limited numbers produced 1000-1500 per year? For 20 years including argosies. There are not many left on the road... how many more are going to rot in backyards and fields? How many more are going to make the journey across the pond? How many people are going to put that "down payment" on the table just to see the "investment" balloon.( do they have to sell or will they be stubborn and hold onto the motorhome?) are driveable airstream motorhomes well below towable Airstreams in price right now?( in my opinion they can be purchased for a song vs towable). With outfits that are truly doing an amazing job with 5 star overhauls,famous people owning/ enjoying these, and the name recognition of a premium brand like airstream it seems to me it's just a matter of time where good units will be blessed with good prices
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Old 09-15-2017, 09:39 AM   #2126
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I would love to see the credentials you have to determine present and future values of the Classic AIRSTREAM motor homes !!
I doubt you even have much knowledge of the values of towable units!!

You do not appear to be an expert in my opinion Sir
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:00 AM   #2127
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No credentials, only an opinion.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:03 AM   #2128
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Your opinions are way off Sir
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:04 AM   #2129
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Now now, its just one mans opinion. One thing that I think is very important these days with our rigs is to pony up the $$$ for a professional appraisal. I think it's totally worth the money to have that in hand when shopping for an agreed value insurance policy. It looks like to me that values have begun to sky rocket over the past 4 years. Had to get your hands on "sold" prices but if "asking" prices relate at all then we have seen major increases in value recently.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:07 AM   #2130
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Thank you Maco, very good information
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:19 AM   #2131
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You are very rude! If you don't like my opinion fine, to label everything I have written as way off is a stretch,and goes into your opinion. Obviously you are a bitter, I have a couple thousand sell me your unit?
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:29 AM   #2132
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FYI the Community Rules here include some mention of being polite and so forth:

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The link is at the bottom of every page here in the blue border menu bar.

Also The Argue Thread is a good place to argue full speed ahead!

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Old 09-15-2017, 02:12 PM   #2133
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Swillv8,

He was not rude, he disagreed with your assessment. Disagreement is not rudeness.

My observation of the majority of people on this forum: very well informed on their rigs, and have an insatiable curiosity about them and everyone else's rigs. Very rarely does anyone flat out disagree with another, so please understand when it occurs, all you need are facts to change their mind. If you had presented facts instead of opinions and emotional responses, we would not be at the point where someone had to come into our quite corner of the boards and post rules of conduct.

Just a recommendation going forward. I would highly recommend attending the classic motorhome get togethers, once you meet people you will see no one says anything out of malice on this forum, but rather to ensure the spread of correct information. My observations of the people I have met out of this group are an eclectic lot with few commonalities with one important exception: very self-reliant who like to see the 'proof in the pudding.'

Just another person's opinion, and I have just as much a right to mine as you to yours.
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Old 09-15-2017, 02:20 PM   #2134
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Thank you Vycan
Very good information and well explained
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Old 09-15-2017, 04:14 PM   #2135
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My take; God forbid I have an opinion........

The biggest impact on pricing for our coaches will be demographics. The typical buyer is one of three people;

1) is the person with deep pockets that can pay for whatever repairs or alterations they want and don't necessarily have the skills, space, tools or time to fix these coaches themselves.

2) is the person that has the means to buy the parts but really enjoys the challenge and satisfaction of working on these coaches themselves. There are a number of these people on our site; Peter, Brad, Steve, Mike, John to name a few.

3) is the "dreamer" or the "artist", that thinks buying one of these is a cheap way of entering RVing and just thinks Airstreams are cool, but maybe doesn't have a clue how to fix anything.

Buyer number one is very very scarce; the veritable needle in the haystack. Buyers with means are usually looking for new, sliders and warranty. The chance of you selling your rig to one of these people is like hitting a comet with a BB gun. Your coach had better be perfect.....or perfect for them.

Buyer number two is still out there, but that circle is rapidly shrinking with age and mobility. This is the person that has learnt many skills over their lifetime that pertain to this generation of mechanical knowledge, but taking on an Airstream motorhome as a project now at this stage of life? Future generations of this type of buyer won't know what a carburetor is, let alone know how to rebuild or adjust them.

Buyer number three is your best bet; impressionable, naive, gullible, hipster, dreamer, artist; doesn't have a clue. Maybe they will pay you more than what your coach is worth, but most likely won't, as they will have limited means.

This is not to say that you can't run into a buyer that belongs to two groups; take me for example; I bought my Mistress on a whim, didn't have a clue what I was doing, or what to look at. I thought it would be a relatively cheap way of getting a diesel RV to drive across Canada. I was every bit a buyer number three, but an artist or a hipster. I however was a little bit of buyer number two; getting better at it; but still needs help every once in a while. I'm no Steve, Brad, Peter or John; but maybe a Mike.

The secret with selling these coaches is understanding, and marketing to your prospective buyer.

Cheers
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PS I'm calling the latest major spiking in percieved "values" for our coaches as the "Larry Hagman" effect. Someone bought Larry Hagmans purple shag 345 coach, that was selling for $100,000+, for a lot less than that; completely redid the entire interior to what they thought Larry Hagmans 345 should have looked like, and then put it up for sale at $250,000.00.
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Old 09-15-2017, 04:42 PM   #2136
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Martin, check it out, just what you were looking for to take us on tours when we come visit

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/r...306981545.html
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Old 09-15-2017, 05:48 PM   #2137
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Martin, check it out, just what you were looking for to take us on tours when we come visit

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Old 09-15-2017, 08:35 PM   #2138
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Anyone notice something different about the head lights......

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hmm, now that you mention it, they screwed up and put them side by side..
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And the windows. That is a pre-77 rear-bed style body, which would have come with standard 30in sliders all around in the bus form, but all of those have been replaced with (what look like) CR Laurence replacements.

Sort of ironic as one of the things I have been kicking around was to approach CRL and see how many was there minimum order to get some 30in (used above the gaucho) and 24in (used above the kitchenette) replacements made! With the number of MH now being worked on and the 'same' windows used from 1975-1994 there has to be a market for complete (properly made) windows.

http://www.crlaurence.com/crlapps/sh...lID=2506&pom=0
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Old 09-16-2017, 06:21 AM   #2140
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And the windows. That is a pre-77 rear-bed style body, which would have come with standard 30in sliders all around in the bus form, but all of those have been replaced with (what look like) CR Laurence replacements.
Good catch! Interestingly the windows look like they have the proper curve to them.

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Sort of ironic as one of the things I have been kicking around was to approach CRL and see how many was there minimum order to get some 30in (used above the gaucho) and 24in (used above the kitchenette) replacements made! With the number of MH now being worked on and the 'same' windows used from 1975-1994 there has to be a market for complete (properly made) windows.

http://www.crlaurence.com/crlapps/sh...lID=2506&pom=0
Speaking of windows, back in early August I was contacted by someone who had recently purchased a 75 20' Argosy with a 350 engine and lives about an hour from me. His coach is in surprisingly good condition. It's been repainted but looks good and it's been pretty well maintained. It did however have some issues one of which none of the windows opened. Imagine that

However not knowing these windows never work he decided to attack them with some silicone spray and a pry bar. Now all of his windows work and work smoothly!

When he stopped by a week or so ago I took a quick glance at some of the windows and none of them showed any signs of having the frames tweaked (i.e. mangled) which tells me at some point the windows on these coaches must have worked, at least to some extent. Someday I'd really like to get to the bottom of these window issues.

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