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11-17-2022, 04:14 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1986 27' Airstream 270
FALLON
, NV
Join Date: Nov 2022
Posts: 17
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1986 270? Barn find Airstream
I think I just picked up the barn find of the century I was able to grab this airstream 270 I think, for only $2000. A slow tow home later and it was secure
I was hoping to grab some more information about the models that were produced and their various features. This seems to either have been converted to a passenger van at sometime, or came that way from airstream, it has no kitchen, no plumbing for a kitchen, no bedroom or any likes thereof.
The couple I bought it from claimed the previous owner told them this was one of the NASA models but I find that highly doughtful. However we did find a very weird switchboard inside running 50v, 28v, 60 hertz and 400hz electronics. She told us there were silver wires in the rv and much to our surprise there silver plated cu wires on the switch panel.
We also found a really strange and massive heating and cooling system, is this a stock implement or was it added afterwords? It has an air condenser and a heater core with coolant from the engine.
Any information on on any of this mystery would be greatly appreciated!
(Currently not in running condition, motor wiring harness is very shot and will need to be replaced and possibly have further work done on the engine amd transmission)
I own a 4 bay auto shop and will be doing a full remodel on it.
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11-17-2022, 04:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 35' Airstream 350
Columbia
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 928
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Looks like you got yourself a hand full of work ahead!
AS made a lot of custom units throughout the years.
Take a look at Fred's site to get some ideas about these coaches.
http://www.viewrvs.com/motorhome.php
You might be able to contact AS with the VIN for some info!?
Have fun with it!
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1991 350LE "Zephyr"
1982 310 MoHo (Sold! New home, NYC.)
Many Years ago, 1972 Argosy 24' trailer
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11-17-2022, 05:26 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1986 27' Airstream 270
FALLON
, NV
Join Date: Nov 2022
Posts: 17
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Here is the strange electrical breaker board we found
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11-17-2022, 05:34 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Little falls
, New York
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 457
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsthatsguy
I think I just picked up the barn find of the century I was able to grab this airstream 270 I think, for only $2000. A slow tow home later and it was secure
I was hoping to grab some more information about the models that were produced and their various features. This seems to either have been converted to a passenger van at sometime, or came that way from airstream, it has no kitchen, no plumbing for a kitchen, no bedroom or any likes thereof.
The couple I bought it from claimed the previous owner told them this was one of the NASA models but I find that highly doughtful. However we did find a very weird switchboard inside running 50v, 28v, 60 hertz and 400hz electronics. She told us there were silver wires in the rv and much to our surprise there silver plated cu wires on the switch panel.
We also found a really strange and massive heating and cooling system, is this a stock implement or was it added afterwords? It has an air condenser and a heater core with coolant from the engine.
Any information on on any of this mystery would be greatly appreciated!
(Currently not in running condition, motor wiring harness is very shot and will need to be replaced and possibly have further work done on the engine amd transmission)
I own a 4 bay auto shop and will be doing a full remodel on it.
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You friend are a brave man!
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11-17-2022, 06:14 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Northern
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Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 215
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Silver and silver plated chassis wiring is used extensively in Aerospace & Defense, check if it’s teflon wrapped (PTFE or something similar lettering on the wire). Are you sure about the 400Hz? 50Hz is weird enough - Japan I think uses it, I can’t think of what would require a higher clock like that, typically you’d have one standard (60Hz at that) and upconvert on any particular equipment.
Ah OK a little searching, yeah 400Hz power is used in aviation, and 50Hz makes sense as an even divider/multiplier. So yes - A&D, maybe NASA, or as well could have been support vehicle for who knows - Boeing, Lockheed or the like. The heating/cooling was probably for whatever equipment they had in there, look around for a 19” rack, vertical rails with screw holes for holding instruments.
Interpreting that panel - CB might mean “Common Bus”, S = “Source” or “Signal”, NF, don’t know “No Fault” is the only thing that comes to mind. This stuff is always cryptic.
Second look at the pictures, yeah appears to be more people support than equipment support, and kind of upscale at that. Astronaut transport? I imagine they use DC for the suit support power not AC but no idea.
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11-17-2022, 07:50 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 551
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I have no idea what the history of your new find might be. It looks to me like a blank slate for whatever you want it to be! Welcome to the madness!
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11-17-2022, 08:05 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1986 27' Airstream 270
FALLON
, NV
Join Date: Nov 2022
Posts: 17
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The more and more I dive into this thing the more and more of the mystery it becomes it definitely seems like it was pretty application specific whatever it was doing.
I have renovated 2 old 1960 trailers and built a Sprinter Van completely from the ground up, I am very excited to be taking on this new project it should be a good canvas to work with.
The frame and chassie and cab all seem good, no water leaks.
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11-17-2022, 09:05 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1986 27' Airstream 270
FALLON
, NV
Join Date: Nov 2022
Posts: 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DrivingDan
Silver and silver plated chassis wiring is used extensively in Aerospace & Defense, check if it’s teflon wrapped (PTFE or something similar lettering on the wire). Are you sure about the 400Hz? 50Hz is weird enough - Japan I think uses it, I can’t think of what would require a higher clock like that, typically you’d have one standard (60Hz at that) and upconvert on any particular equipment.
Ah OK a little searching, yeah 400Hz power is used in aviation, and 50Hz makes sense as an even divider/multiplier. So yes - A&D, maybe NASA, or as well could have been support vehicle for who knows - Boeing, Lockheed or the like. The heating/cooling was probably for whatever equipment they had in there, look around for a 19” rack, vertical rails with screw holes for holding instruments.
Interpreting that panel - CB might mean “Common Bus”, S = “Source” or “Signal”, NF, don’t know “No Fault” is the only thing that comes to mind. This stuff is always cryptic.
Second look at the pictures, yeah appears to be more people support than equipment support, and kind of upscale at that. Astronaut transport? I imagine they use DC for the suit support power not AC but no idea.
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All pretty good insights, CB I assume is standing for Circuit Breaker, every switch marked CB has a Resettable circuit breaker like action to the switch.
The breakers are all marked with their respective voltages and frequency, or marked DC.
Most are 5 amp, with a few 15amp here or there, there's an assy number on the back but searchs don't pull anything, no manufacture.
But at 5 amps or so, at so many odd voltages and frequencies, seems so low power and specific, it must have been some low power computers or transceivers, nothing consuming a lot of power, but a lot of high end wiring to support some specific systems.
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11-18-2022, 09:29 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 25' Flying Cloud
1987 29' Sovereign
1978 31' Sovereign
Tampa Bay
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 412
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Can’t wait to see what it becomes. Good luck.
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11-18-2022, 10:37 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Niagara Falls
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 174
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsthatsguy
I think I just picked up the barn find of the century I was able to grab this airstream 270 I think, for only $2000. A slow tow home later and it was secure
I was hoping to grab some more information about the models that were produced and their various features. This seems to either have been converted to a passenger van at sometime, or came that way from airstream, it has no kitchen, no plumbing for a kitchen, no bedroom or any likes thereof.
The couple I bought it from claimed the previous owner told them this was one of the NASA models but I find that highly doughtful. However we did find a very weird switchboard inside running 50v, 28v, 60 hertz and 400hz electronics. She told us there were silver wires in the rv and much to our surprise there silver plated cu wires on the switch panel.
We also found a really strange and massive heating and cooling system, is this a stock implement or was it added afterwords? It has an air condenser and a heater core with coolant from the engine.
Any information on on any of this mystery would be greatly appreciated!
(Currently not in running condition, motor wiring harness is very shot and will need to be replaced and possibly have further work done on the engine amd transmission)
I own a 4 bay auto shop and will be doing a full remodel on it.
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most aircraft, military, and a lot of space stuff use the voltages and frequency you listed. YOu probably have a legitimate NASA model
have you tried getting info from Airstream?
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11-19-2022, 08:16 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 23' FB International
Woodstock
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,427
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If the frame and body are in great shape you have the makings of a wonderful custom RV with a provenance
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11-21-2022, 05:39 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1989 29' Airstream 290
Hannover
, Germany
Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 79
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsthatsguy
All pretty good insights, CB I assume is standing for Circuit Breaker, every switch marked CB has a Resettable circuit breaker like action to the switch.
The breakers are all marked with their respective voltages and frequency, or marked DC.
Most are 5 amp, with a few 15amp here or there, there's an assy number on the back but searchs don't pull anything, no manufacture.
But at 5 amps or so, at so many odd voltages and frequencies, seems so low power and specific, it must have been some low power computers or transceivers, nothing consuming a lot of power, but a lot of high end wiring to support some specific systems.
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Hi, it's not the Astrovan from the NASA museum or the one in the movie Space Cowboys (which are maybe one and the same). The passenger door is there more in the front, before the two windows.
But because the different voltages I also assume it was for some agency, research and NASA might have had more than the Astrovan. Good luck in finidng out more about the history and sharing with us.
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11-23-2022, 10:25 AM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Tradewind
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, Maine to Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 622
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What is the motor?
Exciting!
Any initial plans?
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25' Tradewind
'18 Promaster 1500 High Roof
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11-23-2022, 10:32 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Little falls
, New York
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 457
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastrob
What is the motor?
Exciting!
Any initial plans?
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Agreed. Interested…gas GM chassis?
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11-23-2022, 12:21 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1956 16' Bubble
San Luis Obispo
, California
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 23
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I can barely follow the technical stuff, but what an interesting thread. Good luck - bet you can do it!
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11-23-2022, 04:48 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2022 25' Flying Cloud
Bend
, Oregon
Join Date: Dec 2021
Posts: 39
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The original Astro Vans
NASA operated other aircraft that required astronaut-type support, including the X-series rocket planes and the Blackbird.
The AC and special heating features allowed the astronauts to plug their suits into the vehicle systems to save the limited power supply of their portable units for walking from the vehicle to the aircraft and back.
The wiring and switches do appear to be mil spec hardware so it could be NASA or even USAF provenance. Definitely not your everyday Airstream!
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11-23-2022, 08:52 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1961 22' Spaceliner
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 270
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So cool!
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12-07-2022, 06:51 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1986 27' Airstream 270
FALLON
, NV
Join Date: Nov 2022
Posts: 17
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Been doing some cleaning and work on the engine.
It is a p30 chevy chassis with 454 TBI engine, Turbo 400 Transmission.
a lot more info and views in the video i made for youtube:
https://youtu.be/rrNP6jrJ7rc
Much Love
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12-07-2022, 07:51 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1986 27' Airstream 270
FALLON
, NV
Join Date: Nov 2022
Posts: 17
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Update
I made a youtube video to update everyone on the airstream and progress here:
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12-08-2022, 07:46 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 27' International FB
Petaluma
, California
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,364
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Very cool! Following.
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