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09-19-2017, 09:48 AM
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Rivet Master
1982 31' Airstream 310
champaign
, Illinois
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,071
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I bought these a couple years ago and have been happy with them. You can install them without taking the wheel off to get to the inner dually.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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09-19-2017, 10:22 AM
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#1842
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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Good info guys!
I saw those Mayco when I was searching. Good to know they have been tested and work.
Little progress yesterday as I was thwarted by tooling and Honeydo projects! Honey is away for a couple of days at a conference, so oil change, check, and detail on her ML so she arrives safe and in style!
Now, back to Airstream stuff while she is away!
So, I have to make a die for the Beadroller to turn the edge of a panel into a radius. I have to make a tool to make the radius on the lathe, which I need to make with the milling head. But I need to drill out the head to accept a collet holder.
! So, I need to modify a tool, to make a tool, to make a tool, to make a part!
Anyone following me here? I kid you not, cos you can't make this stuff up! 😀
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09-19-2017, 11:31 AM
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#1843
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Rivet Master
1984 27' Airstream 270
Scotia
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,082
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyair
But I need to drill out the head to accept a collet holder.
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If you are thinking of modifying your machine tools,
Beware of modifying the lathe/milling machine heads. They may be beefy but thinning out the head shaft can lead to serious injury if you ever plan to swing something large or using a lot of torque!
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09-19-2017, 12:27 PM
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#1844
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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You are correct. This is a mod that many have done, and there has not been any issues. The tool retaining bolt from stock is long M10 bolt. I and others have not been able to find a collet chuck with an M10. M12 or 1/2" is kinda the most common, so drilling the upper head quill shaft out to clear the bigger bolt is needed to use them so that's what I did.
Taking onboard your comment thou, I just checked. The upper shaft is 1 1/4" diameter at its thinnest and the lower is almost 1 3/4".
This is a low capacity machine and I do not intend to use larger endmills than it was originally designed for, but using an endmill in the stock Morse taper #3 Jacobs drill chuck was not good! I have had the end mill fall out several times because it vibrated loose, and that is dangerous!
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My name is Steve.... and I am an Alumaholic!
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09-19-2017, 07:13 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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Mill head mod went well but could not find a suitable bolt due to the fact it's almost a foot long!
Had to make one!
Two old Subaru Outback head bolts and a M12 bolt were sacrificed and TiG welded together!
Feeling quite happy with the results.
Put the mill back together and re packed the bearings as I went. Noticed that the drive belt was frayed, so before it breaks I need to find a new one.
Planned to move on to the next wheel and was kinda shocked and remembered that I, in fact had a few hours into #1 already...
#2 wheel reminded me!
When I went to attach it to my wheel polishing station it would not fit, so I need to open the adaptor up a touch. It's about 1/32" tighter! That needs the lathe so that was in hold too!
Got on to progressing the the Bead Roller. Added a foot switch and speed controller and did some test pieces with the power feed.
Tomorrow might be busy!
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My name is Steve.... and I am an Alumaholic!
Working in my Garage is like playing TETRIS with Tools!
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09-20-2017, 02:34 AM
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#1846
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Rivet Master
1984 27' Airstream 270
Scotia
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,082
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I am curious if the aluminum wheels were stock on the 84 or an option?
Mine has steel wheels and stainless wheel covers front & rear
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09-20-2017, 07:59 AM
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#1847
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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No idea Wayne, but mine has steels and SS covers currently. I found the Alloys on CL a while back, and think they look sweet.
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09-20-2017, 10:46 AM
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#1848
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WayneG
I am curious if the aluminum wheels were stock on the 84 or an option?
Mine has steel wheels and stainless wheel covers front & rear
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I think the aluminum wheels were optional or offered based on level of trim. My old 310 had most if not all of the options offered and it had the aluminum wheels.
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09-20-2017, 11:39 AM
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#1849
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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My name is Steve.... and I am an Alumaholic!
Working in my Garage is like playing TETRIS with Tools!
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09-20-2017, 11:58 AM
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#1850
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Rivet Master
1984 27' Airstream 270
Scotia
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,082
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyair
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Thanks
I guess the original owner of mine took the cheap way out!
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09-20-2017, 12:31 PM
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#1851
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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You are not alone on that one, however, my OP decided they needed a closet where the dinette normaly was, so probably ate up the cost difference 3x by the custom work!
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My name is Steve.... and I am an Alumaholic!
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09-22-2017, 09:56 PM
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#1852
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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My name is Steve.... and I am an Alumaholic!
Working in my Garage is like playing TETRIS with Tools!
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09-25-2017, 02:47 PM
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#1853
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 551
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The results are awesome. Do you plan on putting some kind of clear coat on them when you are finished?
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09-25-2017, 05:56 PM
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#1854
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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Thanks Gregsch!
I'm not 100% happy with them but trying not to look too hard.
I don't think I am gonna put anything more than a good coat of wax on them. Here in CA I'm less worried about salt and moisture than I used to! I will see after so use how they stand up to the weather.
I did get one side of #3 done over the weekend but confirmed a kill on my HF Buffer... it was working fine until I kinda "caught a crab" on one of the holes, it bounced, snatched and coasted to a stop. [emoji849] alas poor buffer, you served me well!
Finished it with air tools.
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My name is Steve.... and I am an Alumaholic!
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09-25-2017, 06:08 PM
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#1855
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2 Rivet Member
1995 36' Classic 36
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 44
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RIP buffer....
Oh boy, tool shopping!
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09-27-2017, 07:44 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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A trip to HF yesterday and a new Buffer... interestingly this one looks identical to the old one but has a red led rpm readout instead of an LCD! Upon arriving home, and using it, the speed controller looks to be faulty. It runs fine but sometimes decides that max rpm is needed regardless of what I have selected!
Refinished the convex face of #3 to a better finish...
Then flipped it.
At first glance this side looked pretty good...
I hit it with a light cut, and that looked ok...
But closer examination revealed its quite pitted for some reason. I think if going to give myself a reality check and call it good!
Also pretty much finished putting the DRO (Digital Read Out) on the X and Y axis of my little lathe/mill combo. This involved fabricating brackets and drilled and tapping holes in the cast iron bed etc. came out ok, but still some tidy up work and need to add protection from dwarf etc, to the readers. I will try to do the mill head Z axis next but it's more complex.
Should make life a little easier!
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My name is Steve.... and I am an Alumaholic!
Working in my Garage is like playing TETRIS with Tools!
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09-27-2017, 08:00 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,115
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Good deal!
Having DROs on the mill makes life so much easier. I installed them on my mill a few years ago and it's night and day difference in how easy it is to use.
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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09-27-2017, 08:02 AM
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#1858
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Rivet Master
1984 27' Airstream 270
Scotia
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,082
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It may be corrosion or grain in the original casting. A good coating should help hide it
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09-27-2017, 09:25 AM
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#1859
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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Agreed Brad!
I'm trying not to be too anal about the wheels because there is a world of difference between being 18" from my nose on the wheel polishing station and on the rig about 5' away from my point of view!
To refresh, these were only polished one side, so not only were the alternative sides not polished, but they were left to the elements for 30 years. Moisture, maybe salt and brake dust took its toll. Luckily 4 are rears, and so that 4 where the complex concave side was polished from Alcoa and so is better. The convex side is so much easier to rework because the majority of the surface is flat. However the 2 that were fronts are ugly, and also being on the front they got the lions share of heat, and brake dust.
I am finding a small electric DA sander works great and somehow the DA action spins the wheel slowly as I go.
The game plan is to have all 6 polished both sides to a standard that allows me to rotate tires at will.
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My name is Steve.... and I am an Alumaholic!
Working in my Garage is like playing TETRIS with Tools!
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09-27-2017, 11:42 AM
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#1860
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Rivet Master
1984 34.5' Airstream 345
Foothill Ranch
, California
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,695
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