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Old 07-13-2020, 07:53 PM   #1
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Twinkie: 76 Argosy Keep Original or Fresh Start

New here and just bought this 1976 Argosy MH 28 with rear twins. Wife is calling her "Twinkie". It's in decent shape but needs some work. I have seen quite a few remodels on trailers but so far almost all of the MH I have seen on here are keeping the original interior. Is it just not worth it to do a complete remodel on the MH or is there some other reason I am not finding them that way?

We bought this to remodel and use ourselves. I just don't want to be upside down on it years from now when we want something different.

Here the list of things I am already committed to improving:
- New Windshield
- New Batteries
- New Tires
- New Brakes
- New Plugs and Wires
- New Starter
- New Alignment
- New Flooring/Carpet - Subfloor is in good shape
- New Fuzzy for sliding glass and window seals (could use some pointers on if I should do this myself or not)



Anything else I should check to make sure she's road-ready?
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Old 07-13-2020, 09:19 PM   #2
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We are in the same boat! I just got my 1975 24 started (quite literally!) this past weekend.

My first question: why is the windshield on your list? The pictures look like they are in good shape, and I'm jealous, because BOTH of my front windows have major cracks.

Second comment... those tambour cabinets and green counter top are FANTASTIC. I hope those aren't part of what you're thinking about getting rid of. My cabinets are plain solid panels that just lift up, and I'm pretty envious of your sleek sliders.

My interior is in pretty excellent condition, or I'd be thinking about more aggressive measures as well. The biggest thing I'd want to improve would be insulation, but that means really going at it and ripping *everything* out, and my interior is just too nice and original to justify it.

Carpet will definitely need replaced, so I'm facing the carpet or LVP dilemma. I've always put luxury vinyl plank in my Airstreams, but I kind of like the carpet in the Argosy. I guess we'll see.

Best of luck, and looking forward to keeping up with what you're doing!
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Old 07-13-2020, 09:26 PM   #3
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Thanks KidJedi. Passenger windshield has an 12in crack. Drivers side has two big chips and it they need seals anyway. Already bought the glass. We are still not sure what stays or goes inside yet. I did notice that the ceiling plastic trim sags in some places. Not sure how to fix that.
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Man... now that just means we'll be racing each other when someone posts that they've got windshields!

I started researching windshield replacements about a year ago when I first started thinking about this thing, but I didn't find much.

I'd love to get something new (no chips or hazing), but who knows if that's possible. If it is, maybe we can get a discount on four instead of just two.

EDIT: Oh, wait! I see you say you already bought the glass. New or old stock?
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New here and just bought this 1976 Argosy MH 28 with rear twins. Wife is calling her "Twinkie". It's in decent shape but needs some work. I have seen quite a few remodels on trailers but so far almost all of the MH I have seen on here are keeping the original interior. Is it just not worth it to do a complete remodel on the MH or is there some other reason I am not finding them that way?

We bought this to remodel and use ourselves. I just don't want to be upside down on it years from now when we want something different.

Here the list of things I am already committed to improving:
- New Windshield
- New Batteries
- New Tires
- New Brakes
- New Plugs and Wires
- New Starter
- New Alignment
- New Flooring/Carpet - Subfloor is in good shape
- New Fuzzy for sliding glass and window seals (could use some pointers on if I should do this myself or not)



Anything else I should check to make sure she's road-ready?
Welcome to the mad-house, you have a nice looking early 28ft to start from.

Biggest omission from your list is fuel lines. The early rubber hoses are not compatible with modern fuel, and will simply disintegrate - catastrophically!

I terms of re-vamping, there are as many, if not more, rebuilds as restorations. Same issues as the trailers, in so much as no original replacement parts are available and 1970s plastic will be past its best. Expect much frustration with missing/broken trim that now has to be fabricated. Just remember you are dragging the weight of whatever you add, with a 1970s truck motor....you may have a big block but it has the power output of a modern inline 4. Every lb you add is an extra lb for that already under powered engine to drag, unless you want to change to a modern crate 501...don't go crazy. If trailer guys want to drag more weight they just get a bigger TV. The original cabinets are constructed to be light for a reason.

Oh, and remember that there is a lot more going on under the floor/frame and any layout change starts from where the fuel tank, generator, chassis rails, etc etc are and works around them.
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Man... now that just means we'll be racing each other when someone posts that they've got windshields!

I started researching windshield replacements about a year ago when I first started thinking about this thing, but I didn't find much.

I'd love to get something new (no chips or hazing), but who knows if that's possible. If it is, maybe we can get a discount on four instead of just two.

EDIT: Oh, wait! I see you say you already bought the glass. New or old stock?
kidjedi, I was able to find the glass new from Coach Glass. They have locations in AZ,FL, IN, and OR. Cost for both was $1425. Would have been another $400 to pack and ship so we went to IN to get ours. I had the shop that is putting them in do the order so I think they were cheaper that way. Other quote I got was from Nationwide RV and they wanted $3k+ installed.
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Welcome to the mad-house, you have a nice looking early 28ft to start from.

Biggest omission from your list is fuel lines. The early rubber hoses are not compatible with modern fuel, and will simply disintegrate - catastrophically!

I terms of re-vamping, there are as many, if not more, rebuilds as restorations. Same issues as the trailers, in so much as no original replacement parts are available and 1970s plastic will be past its best. Expect much frustration with missing/broken trim that now has to be fabricated. Just remember you are dragging the weight of whatever you add, with a 1970s truck motor....you may have a big block but it has the power output of a modern inline 4. Every lb you add is an extra lb for that already under powered engine to drag, unless you want to change to a modern crate 501...don't go crazy. If trailer guys want to drag more weight they just get a bigger TV. The original cabinets are constructed to be light for a reason.

Oh, and remember that there is a lot more going on under the floor/frame and any layout change starts from where the fuel tank, generator, chassis rails, etc etc are and works around them.
Thanks for the Fuel Line and the managing weight tips Martin! I think the first non-mechanical thing I plan to tackle is resealing the windows. I saw a few threads that look like you have been through that one? Here is one: https://www.airforums.com/forums/f31...ws-195087.html I didn't find anything on how to remove the fuzzy and steps to get it back in. Any tips? you can see from of the pictures that mine look original and prevent glass from sliding at all. Looks like Inland RV has it in stock.
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kidjedi, I was able to find the glass new from Coach Glass. They have locations in AZ,FL, IN, and OR. Cost for both was $1425. Would have been another $400 to pack and ship so we went to IN to get ours. I had the shop that is putting them in do the order so I think they were cheaper that way. Other quote I got was from Nationwide RV and they wanted $3k+ installed.
Excellent! Sounds like once I've got things running well, I'll be making a trip to visit the parents in Indiana! Thanks so much for the info. Who are you having do the install? If they do a good job, the extra 2 and half hours over to Columbus might be worth it.
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Nice Find!!!!!

Personally for me, I would only get rid of the carpet and put down some vinyl peel and stick floor tiles. We have kids and if one gets messed up, ruined, what have you, I only have to pull up the damage tiles. Keep the tambour doors and cabinets....but for the love of God and all things holy....make sure you keep that groovy flowered paper towel hanger!
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Keep the tambour doors and cabinets....but for the love of God and all things holy....make sure you keep that groovy flowered paper towel hanger!
Right?!

But seriously, I think it would be cool to really capitalize on a "tasteful" 70's chic update. I know that sounds like an oxymoron, but I think it's very possible.
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Beautiful Interior

(Is it just not worth it to do a complete remodel on the MH or is there some other reason I am not finding them that way? )

You have one very spectacular interior.
That was not designed by any clowns!

"There is your true value in that MH"

Even that particular carpet does the best job to moderate heat & cold and wicks any moisture to stop rot n mold in sub floor, remove it from the bathroom thou...
Seating could be reupholstered but payup for a professional job to match quality off cabinets. Tidy up all trim and consider a fine new exterior paint job.
Live with it for a bit till you understand what you really have there. Befor a terrible crime is committed

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