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03-23-2021, 10:39 PM
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1978 20' Argosy 20
Beverly hills
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Shipping 28 ft Argosy
Anyone know if a 28 foot argosy motorhome will fit in a 40 ft shipping container?
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03-24-2021, 01:48 AM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Surfrider
Anyone know if a 28 foot argosy motorhome will fit in a 40 ft shipping container?
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Nope, it is around 11ft 10in high and 8ft 6in wide.
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03-24-2021, 04:28 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
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I think even if you could squeeze one into a shipping container by the time it arrived at it's destination the shell would be beat up. I can't think of any way you could strap it down to the floor of the container and even if you could the suspension would still be active.
The only way you would be able to get out of the coach would be through the rear emergency escape window.
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03-24-2021, 06:47 AM
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Thanks Bkahker.
I received another reply though that the height is 11”6. I haven’t purchased it yet but I took measurements and it was 8”6 without ac roof vent and with full air in the tires. Anyone know a site that shows exact measurements having specs of all the argosy models maybe ?
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03-24-2021, 08:32 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
Nope, it is around 11ft 10in high and 8ft 6in wide.
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Martin, I think 11' 10" is too high. My shop door is 11'-0" high and both Peanut, my 20' and my 84 310 fit inside.
The 310 was right at 10'-6" high and my Argosy is I think about 10'-3" high. I don't think I ever measured Peanut to know what it's height was.
I would guess the 28' Argosy assuming it has the 19" wheels would probably like the 310 which is 10'6" to the top of the air conditioner.
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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03-24-2021, 08:33 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Surfrider
Thanks Bkahker.
I received another reply though that the height is 11”6. I haven’t purchased it yet but I took measurements and it was 8”6 without ac roof vent and with full air in the tires. Anyone know a site that shows exact measurements having specs of all the argosy models maybe ?
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Height information is kind of hard to find. See my last post.
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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03-24-2021, 11:14 AM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
Height information is kind of hard to find. See my last post.
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I know the 20ft's are a lot lower and Bella without the AC but with the Fantastic fans is right on 9ft 10in sitting on 16in wheels.
My previous post came from the height of the 28ft donor that I had shipped and had to be measured (because it needed to be under 14ft for clearance on the 2ft 6in low loader). Initially it was sitting at 14ft 4in total and we had to let the air out the tires.
So maybe the low loader was higher than the operator reported but certainly the pair together was 14ft 4in.
Either way it is nowhere near 8ft 6in unless you want to make it a convertible!
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03-24-2021, 11:39 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin300662
I know the 20ft's are a lot lower and Bella without the AC but with the Fantastic fans is right on 9ft 10in sitting on 16in wheels.
My previous post came from the height of the 28ft donor that I had shipped and had to be measured (because it needed to be under 14ft for clearance on the 2ft 6in low loader). Initially it was sitting at 14ft 4in total and we had to let the air out the tires.
So maybe the low loader was higher than the operator reported but certainly the pair together was 14ft 4in.
Either way it is nowhere near 8ft 6in unless you want to make it a convertible!
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I think the trailer deck height for your donor was taller than reported. I would imagine a 28' Argosy would be the same or shorter than a 310 and I'm certain my 310 was no more than 10'-6" overall. It drove through my 11' shop opening so we know it wasn't over 10'11".
When I had my Argosy transported from Arkansas to Kentucky the deck height was around 40" or so. Even though it was my trailer I don't remember the deck height other than I know it was 40+ inches. I had to contend with one overpass in Kentucky that was at 14' and the load came in at 13'-9". Needless to say I was a little concerned about that overpass!
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
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03-24-2021, 11:45 AM
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Thanks -
Assuming I remove the wheels it will clear the height of shipping container ( 40 ft high cube) 8 ‘10” . It’s the width of 7’9” of the inside container that I’m now concerned with .
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03-24-2021, 11:49 AM
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1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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How would you get it into the container without wheels?
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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03-24-2021, 12:09 PM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
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03-24-2021, 12:57 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
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Stand up the container vertical, on its non-opening end, and drop the Argosy in?
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03-24-2021, 01:12 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
Stand up the container vertical, on its non-opening end, and drop the Argosy in?
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Like dropping a mortar round into the firing tube.......
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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03-26-2021, 12:07 PM
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Churubusco
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Surfrider
Thanks -
Assuming I remove the wheels it will clear the height of shipping container ( 40 ft high cube) 8 ‘10” . It’s the width of 7’9” of the inside container that I’m now concerned with .
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Yep, these motorhomes are wider than a shipping container, no way around that, at least not without a plasma torch and welder.....
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03-26-2021, 12:09 PM
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Churubusco
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
I'm certain my 310 was no more than 10'-6" overall. It drove through my 11' shop opening so we know it wasn't over 10'11".
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I know it's pretty much off topic, but the 310 I'm sitting in has 10-8" on the sticker. 10-6 is probably about right (even with the chimney )
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03-26-2021, 02:17 PM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
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I have to ask.....
Why the fixation on using a shipping container? Within mainland USA you can just get in trailered, and if shipping overseas then use a RORO.
A 28ft Argosy fits comfortably on a gooseneck (actually the biggest issue is grounding the back/trashing the tank valves whilst loading/unloading).
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03-26-2021, 10:33 PM
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Shipping
It’s going to a tiny island in the Indian Ocean that I’m not sure I can get a RORO. Imnow looking into a 53’ container . I’m told the dimensions of this container will accommodate the 28 ft argosy.. thanks for all
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03-27-2021, 02:41 AM
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2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
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The interior dimensions here seem to indicate otherwise IMO:
https://cargocontainers.net/53-shipping-container/
Door opening:
-- 8' 2" wide
-- 8' 10" high
Make the Argosy watertight and tow it across the ocean, like a dinghy?
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04-11-2021, 07:57 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Surfrider
It’s going to a tiny island in the Indian Ocean that I’m not sure I can get a RORO. Imnow looking into a 53’ container . I’m told the dimensions of this container will accommodate the 28 ft argosy.. thanks for all
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Wondering if you have made any progress on this . . . curious to hear about shipping alternatives . . . like maybe a local tramp steamer company? . . . friends with large boats?
Good luck.
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04-11-2021, 08:54 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
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PS -- What about a flat rack container per the following post?
[click on orange arrow to go directly there]
Quote:
Originally Posted by GREEN ARGOSY
Hi,
Sorry, I didn't import my Argosy by myself so I'm not sure.
Attachment 391550
It probably came to Japan by a Ro-Ro ship (roll-on/roll-out ship). Many import cars have been coming by Ro-Ro ships over here! Also passenger cars or motorcycles are loaded into a 20' or a 40' container for shipping!
I can't imagine loading Argosy in a container!
A freight company shows a dry container (40' HC) dimension is below.
Intenal length : 12,032mm, Internal width : 2,350mm, Internal height: 2,695mm (Sorry for in metric)
My Argosy's car inspection certificate said "Length : 6,200mm, Width : 2,420mm, Height : 3,006mm". It might be rough measurements, I think the width is between the side view mirror and the side view mirror.
Attachment 391551
I think if your Argosy can move, using ro-ro ship is easy way for the shipping. If not, using a flat rack container or anything like that?
By the way, I saw a Rolls-Royce Cullinan on a flat rack container at the Narita Airport freight terminal. It's a definitely luxury car so it came by a plane!!
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