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Old 05-03-2021, 06:00 PM   #1
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Need help

Passenger seat removal on 1974 20 ft argosy mh
Spins fine converts to day bed fine but can’t get to engine compartment without removing the seat.
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Old 05-03-2021, 06:57 PM   #2
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Sounds like a problem. You'd better let me take that seat off your hands.

Just so you know, the Roto-dinette is highly coveted among Argosy owners.

It should allow the dog house to open when the seat is in the sideways position, so not sure what's going on with yours.
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Old 05-03-2021, 07:19 PM   #3
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It’s new to me won’t lift up didn’t want to screw it up maybe I should ask how to remove the dog house or engine cover only lifts up a few inches with seat sideways. Need to prime carburetor!!��
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Old 05-03-2021, 07:51 PM   #4
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I'm not familiar with the exact mechanics of the seat, just wanted to be sure you know that it's a pretty special item, so be careful not to damage it!

The dog house should just tilt back on a hinge, so if the seat is preventing that from happening, there might be another "movement" to get the seat to slide back farther when it's sideways so that it's out of the way of the dog house "lid."

I also read somewhere that the release knobs on the Roto-dinette should always be rotated clockwise.

Here's another thread on the Roto-dinette. Maybe someone from there might have an answer for you?

https://www.airforums.com/forums/f16...te-169776.html
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Old 05-04-2021, 01:56 AM   #5
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You have a really interesting situation there as the roto-dinette didn't become listed as an option until 1976, so maybe some-one retro fitted?

Either way here is a link to the 1976 manual that includes the roto-dinette operation on page 89

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B91...ew?usp=sharing
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Old 05-04-2021, 04:48 AM   #6
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You have a really interesting situation there as the roto-dinette didn't become listed as an option until 1976, so maybe some-one retro fitted?

Either way here is a link to the 1976 manual that includes the roto-dinette operation on page 89

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B91...ew?usp=sharing
If someone did retrofit the roto-dinette from a 76 to a 74 the real problem might be the differences in the doghouse itself. The design for the doghouse changed after 76 to a much bulkier style that only opened in the front half. Not sure if it was 76 or 77 when the change took place.

I'll try and post some pictures of the different styles of doghouses today or tonight. Not sure if I have them on my phone or not.

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Old 05-04-2021, 10:45 AM   #7
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My bad wife says it is a 75 probably sold in 76 with the body build.
It is original and I have managed to position it to get to the engine. While fooling with the rooto 1 bearing came out.
Still can’t lift seat up and out either one of them seem to be the same
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Old 05-04-2021, 10:47 AM   #8
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Brad here is me email shoot me your phone
Chris.J.Pease@icloud.com
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Thanks chris
In terms of the 'house' functions, only the Airstream VIN matters, my betting is yours will be something like M20D6Vxxxxx, where the 6 is the model year (1976).
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Old 05-04-2021, 01:09 PM   #10
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Thanks for your all’s help and input I have managed to get the seat arranged to open the engine compartment.

Still cannot remove the seat I have loosened the Alan bolts and removed collets tried jacking the shaft up etc etc Iam assuming maybe they bolt in thru the bottom once rain quits guess I’ll look there.
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