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08-26-2007, 05:52 PM
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Rivet Master 

1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
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Knackered door on our Argosy
One of the things not mentioned in the Auction when we bought the Argosy was the condition of the entry door.
As you can see from this photo the door is warped out at the bottom corner from just above the door latch to the bottom.
Looking at this photo ou can see how badly deformed the latch area is. I think what happened was the door lock broke and the PO had to pry the door lip up so they could unlock it.
Any suggestions on how to fix something like this besides todal door replacement
Thanks,
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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08-26-2007, 06:52 PM
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Silver Mist
1977 31' Sovereign
Riverhead
, New York
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No need to replace mine was a lot worse than that.
Do a seach you'll find my pic's on how to fix it.
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'77 Sovereign Intl 31' CB
WBCCI R2 Rep VAC 11411 Metro NY VP
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08-26-2007, 07:31 PM
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Rivet Master 

1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LI Pets
No need to replace mine was a lot worse than that.
Do a seach you'll find my pic's on how to fix it.
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Bob, I found the following topic http://www.airforums.com/forums/f456...ays-30029.html
Was your door just tweaked to a different curve or was there an area where the door was stretched as well? Our door on the Argosy has a very distinctive stretch right by the door lock.
I like the method you used to straighten the door. I'll have to look into building a jig like yours and give it a shot. Nothing to lose at this point
Thanks!
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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08-26-2007, 07:45 PM
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Rivet Master 
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle
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I used the ole' 2X4 between the door and door frame then push in on the bowed out area. It worked on my '77 Excella for a tighter fit at the top of the door.
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08-26-2007, 07:56 PM
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Rivet Master 

1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidz71
I used the ole' 2X4 between the door and door frame then push in on the bowed out area. It worked on my '77 Excella for a tighter fit at the top of the door.
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Craig,
That will probably work to bring the bottom of the door in but I still have the problem with the large deformation around the door lock. I'm willing to try the wood forming trick. In my instance I might have to reinforce the face of the wood with a strip of steel bar stock. Possibly 3/16" to 1/4" thick.
I just realized I still need to look at the door frame itself to see if its been knackered any.
Thanks,
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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08-26-2007, 08:52 PM
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Rivet Master 

2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
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I didn't find the 2x4 method to work very well and your problem looks a lot more complex than the problem I had. See http://www.airforums.com/forums/f453...oor-26820.html for LI Pets' method. You've pretty much got to disassemble the door, reassemble on a jig, drill all new holes for olympic rivets and put back together in the desired shape.
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08-26-2007, 10:18 PM
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gunnyusmc
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Argosy Door
Call David Tidmore at 800-378-5883 at Roger Williams Airstream and talk too him.
Mine was broken in half and he fixed it.
They are just west of Ft. Worth, TX in Weatherford, TX.
Don
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08-27-2007, 05:18 AM
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Silver Mist
1977 31' Sovereign
Riverhead
, New York
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkahler
Craig,
That will probably work to bring the bottom of the door in but I still have the problem with the large deformation around the door lock. I'm willing to try the wood forming trick. In my instance I might have to reinforce the face of the wood with a strip of steel bar stock. Possibly 3/16" to 1/4" thick.
I just realized I still need to look at the door frame itself to see if its been knackered any.
Thanks,
Brad
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Brad when the door is set in the jig, you can use C-clams to straighten a lot of that lock area, also you can use a hammer on the door frame.
Mine was bent in about 5", its 99% straight now.
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'77 Sovereign Intl 31' CB
WBCCI R2 Rep VAC 11411 Metro NY VP
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09-10-2007, 07:41 PM
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Rivet Master 

1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LI Pets
Brad when the door is set in the jig, you can use C-clams to straighten a lot of that lock area, also you can use a hammer on the door frame.
Mine was bent in about 5", its 99% straight now.
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Bob,
Thanks for the info. We're going to be moving the Argosy into the shop sometime in the next few weeks which means I will be able to remove the door without worrying about the weather. As I make progress I'll post pics.
Thanks again,
Brad
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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09-10-2007, 10:12 PM
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Rivet Master 
1951 21' Flying Cloud
1960 24' Tradewind
West Coast
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Brad,
It would not hurt to have a body shop take a look at it. They deal with bent car doors all the time and many of the techniques they use may be adaptable. For the time it takes to run it past, or convince a body man friend or friend of a friend to give you their thoughts, it might save you some effort.
The reason I suggest this is that we looked at a 63 Airstream in our long search for our trailer and the door was in about the same condition as yours. It turned me off right away. Several months later we ran into the couple who bought it in a campground and the door was looking very good. He used the damaged door as leverage to get the price way down, then took it to his brother in law's body shop one evening and they fixed it. I do not know what that all entailed or if it was done in one evening or over several, but it did look very well repaired (you'd not know it was damaged/repaired unless you'd seen it as we had).
Barry
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Life is short - so is the door on a '51 Flying Cloud (ouch)
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09-11-2007, 06:56 PM
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Rivet Master 

1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,045
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Barry, talking the Argosy to a body shop is something we will consider but not easy to do. Right now its not running due to motor and transmission replacement. I might also take the door itself to a friend of ours in Texas who does outstanding body work and see what he can do for it.
So we do have several options, just have to figure out which is the best one.
Thanks!
Brad
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1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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09-11-2007, 11:34 PM
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Rivet Master 
1951 21' Flying Cloud
1960 24' Tradewind
West Coast
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Brad,
I know of what you speak. I've too often had a vehicle in pieces but needed a repair of components that needed to be on the vehicle and at the shop to have it done right. Very frustrating.
Good luck, and let us know how it turns out and how you end up doing the repair.
Barry
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