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Old 07-24-2011, 05:39 AM   #1
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Bought an Airstream from a Psycho :)

I just purchased a 73 Overlander that is actually on pretty good shape. The Guy I bought it from, however was Looney Tunes... I paid $1500 for the trailer and after I paid for it I went to go register it and get a truck to pick this up.

Guy called me as I was on my way back and told me that a neighbor told him that the thing was worth $5K and told me that he wanted another $3500, I politely told him I wasn't going to pay him anything more and I understood if he wanted to back out. I hadn't hit the DMV yet and was willing to give him back the title, just give me the money back and we'll call it a day.... He told me he already SPENT the money and that I wasn't getting the money back (took him an hour and a half to spend it?).

By the time I got there, the trailer was moved and he wasn't allowing me onto his property. I had to call the Sheriffs and was startled when I told them where I was at because they KNEW the guy by name. 15 mins later, the Deputy arrives and the part I can remember is "Bob, if you don't let him take the trailer or give him back his money you're going BACK to jail" I let out a little chuckle. He finally led me back to the trailer, not before kicking the block from under the trailer head, which really ticked off the Deputy, lol. I was able to use the car jack and lift the trailer up, and attached it then found out that he had the whole darn trailer locked up and kept the keys. His response was that I did not need keys as I was not "driving a trailer". The Deputy tried to get him to give me the keys and finally told me that I could sue him for the keys and we just got the heck out of there, trailer in tow...

Short of a locksmith, is there anywhere I could get keys for this? Was able to manage crawling through a window to unlock the trailer but all of the compartments are locked up and I have no way to get to them.
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Bought an Airstream from a Pshyco :)

Greetings jlfaulring!

Welcome to the Forums and the world of Vintage Airstream ownership!

You have solved the biggest issue, and that is actually gaining access to the coach without damaging the door lock. In all probability, you will be able to purchase a new lock cylinder and keys from an Airstream dealer for your entry door (see this link). The compartment doors for any given year during the Vintage Airstream time frame were usually keyed with only two or three potential keys at the most so it is often possible to borrow the compartment keys from a fellow Airstreamer with a coach from the same year and find that the keys will operate your compartment locks as well (see this link for what you might find at an Airstream dealer or service center).

Good luck with your investigation!

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I just purchased a 73 Overlander that is actually on pretty good shape. The Guy I bought it from, however was Looney Tunes... I paid $1500 for the trailer and after I paid for it I went to go register it and get a truck to pick this up.

Guy called me as I was on my way back and told me that a neighbor told him that the thing was worth $5K and told me that he wanted another $3500, I politely told him I wasn't going to pay him anything more and I understood if he wanted to back out. I hadn't hit the DMV yet and was willing to give him back the title, just give me the money back and we'll call it a day.... He told me he already SPENT the money and that I wasn't getting the money back (took him an hour and a half to spend it?).

By the time I got there, the trailer was moved and he wasn't allowing me onto his property. I had to call the Sheriffs and was startled when I told them where I was at because they KNEW the guy by name. 15 mins later, the Deputy arrives and the part I can remember is "Bob, if you don't let him take the trailer or give him back his money you're going BACK to jail" I let out a little chuckle. He finally led me back to the trailer, not before kicking the block from under the trailer head, which really ticked off the Deputy, lol. I was able to use the car jack and lift the trailer up, and attached it then found out that he had the whole darn trailer locked up and kept the keys. His response was that I did not need keys as I was not "driving a trailer". The Deputy tried to get him to give me the keys and finally told me that I could sue him for the keys and we just got the heck out of there, trailer in tow...

Short of a locksmith, is there anywhere I could get keys for this? Was able to manage crawling through a window to unlock the trailer but all of the compartments are locked up and I have no way to get to them.
Short answer is cut your losses and save some time get a locksmith and change the entrance lock as Bob has a key to your trailer and be glad that is all you have to do. Chances are that the locks are not original and no record exits. Damage to the compartment doors would be expensive to repair go with a locksmith.

PS Look for bobby traps.

And what Kevin said.

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Old 07-24-2011, 06:08 AM   #4
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And it's not even a FULL MOON! Go figure.
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Old 07-24-2011, 06:40 AM   #5
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That sounds like something that would happen to us!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is hysterical! gotta love Bob's entrepreneurial spirit: trying to triple his money after the deal is done. You certainly shouldn't lose any sleep over paying him $1500... people have paid far less for trailers, though his neighbor may that yours was undervalued.

Who needs all these "feel good" stories about naming our trailers after previous owners, anyhow? Kindly, church-going 99 year old folks with names like Mabel and Earl are a dime a dozen. I say, bring on

Bonkers Bob the Overlander!


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jl, I admire your level of patience and restraint in a difficult situation!
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Old 07-24-2011, 07:19 AM   #8
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I've had similar things happen to me, that's one reason I try to take it with me at the time the deal is complete.
BTW, everybody seems to know about the full moon effect, when the people that aren't wrapped too tightly come unwound, but there's also the new moon effect, when all the people of marginal intelligence come out to play...
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How did Bob's teeth look?
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How did Bob's teeth look?
You may want to check the trailer for residue.
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Wow, what a wild story. I hope you don't find any surprises inside those closed compartments. It would be good to get into them ASAP.

I'm sure you'll be able to find keys. Some of the keys in our LYG MH are actually the same as we had on our previous two SOB trailers! So much for security.
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:08 AM   #12
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Best. Story. EVER!!!!!

An adventure before you even begin your travels. I am sooo jealous! Did Bonkers Bob have a story about how he acquired the Airstream?

Seriously, change all of the locks and store/hide the trailer somewhere where Bob can't find it. Is there a witness protection program for Airstreams?

Good Luck! Anxiously awaiting the next ins
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hey, I need a tow truck. Any decent tow trucks in Bob's yard?

Could he come up with one if I left a deposit?
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When you gain access to interior, take with you a traditional Native American cedar/sage smudge stick and cleanse the Airstream -- outside, too, to remove any lingering traces of Bob. Wow.
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I just purchased a 73 Overlander that is actually on pretty good shape. The Guy I bought it from, however was Looney Tunes...
Did he look like this?
Bob or Sam??
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Short of a locksmith, is there anywhere I could get keys for this? Was able to manage crawling through a window to unlock the trailer but all of the compartments are locked up and I have no way to get to them.
You can change out the entrance door tumbler, in less than 30 seconds.

That tumbler comes with two keys.

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Good luck, this is off to a fantastic story start.

I'll ask, where's the pictures?

Is Bob on the post office wall?

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Old 07-24-2011, 10:06 AM   #18
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Short answer is cut your losses and save some time get a locksmith and change the entrance lock as Bob has a key to your trailer and be glad that is all you have to do. Chances are that the locks are not original and no record exits. Damage to the compartment doors would be expensive to repair go with a locksmith.

PS Look for bobby traps.

And what Kevin said.

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I was thinking of that and realized that he lives almost 80 miles away from me and he doesn't even have my name or address. Heck, he didn't even have the title in his name, it was a "relative". He only had this as well as five cars and an old Deere tractor sitting out in his lawn for sale. I don't feel bad for the price I paid, because he probably made a few bucks himself in the transaction, just less than what he could have...
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How did Bob's teeth look?
Think it was more like this ...
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I was thinking of that and realized that he lives almost 80 miles away from me and he doesn't even have my name or address. Heck, he didn't even have the title in his name, it was a "relative". He only had this as well as five cars and an old Deere tractor sitting out in his lawn for sale. I don't feel bad for the price I paid, because he probably made a few bucks himself in the transaction, just less than what he could have...

Uh oh...If the title isn't in his name how did he sign it over to you and is it a legal transaction? Maybe his relative doesn't even know he sold it?
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