Free 7 Day Trial RV GPS App RV Trip Planner Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Free 7 Day Trial ×
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-11-2013, 06:36 PM   #41
Rivet Master
 
Aviator's Avatar
 
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
Images: 2
Very true. I am sure you found as we did that as much as we love our 34' and the room that goes with it, there are just some places that it is hard or impossible to take her. The Overlander should fit the bill nicely.
__________________
Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars

AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
Aviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2013, 03:31 PM   #42
Rivet Master
 
Aviator's Avatar
 
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
Images: 2
I managed to get a bit more done on the belly pan today, but then the rains came. The pink stuff is all cleaned out back to the axles. It looks like one outrigger has more than surface rust and should be replaced. As my wife said, "If we replace everything we might as well have purchased a new Airstream".

I am amazed at the amount of dirt that had accumulated inside the pan. I think I have enough to start another garden!
__________________
Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars

AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
Aviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2013, 01:52 PM   #43
Rivet Master
 
Aviator's Avatar
 
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
Images: 2
Needed to do some work to pay for the Airstream the last few days so I didn't get anything accomplished.

Today I was able to get the rear belly pan off and the nasty pink stuff out. Fortunately no surprises were found. I think I will only need to replace one outrigger which is great news. I haven't been able to free the section between the axles. The roadside aft is pinching just a little to tight. That will have to wait until the body is off and the axles come off. I will have to remember to put it back before the new axles go on......

I am starting to see something which is a mystery to me. Every one of the renovation threads I have read talk about the "C" channel and how the deck fits into it. So far it appears that the "C" channel on mine is sitting on top of the plywood with the opening facing up. The middle of the "C" is bolted to the plywood, and the body is riveted to the side. Is this something Airstream did in 1970?

I also need to get started on the deck bolts. I think I may try straightening them enough to get the nuts off instead of just cutting them.
__________________
Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars

AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
Aviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2013, 02:00 PM   #44
Rivet Master
 
utee94's Avatar
 
1963 26' Overlander
Austin , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,640
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aviator View Post
I am starting to see something which is a mystery to me. Every one of the renovation threads I have read talk about the "C" channel and how the deck fits into it. So far it appears that the "C" channel on mine is sitting on top of the plywood with the opening facing up. The middle of the "C" is bolted to the plywood, and the body is riveted to the side. Is this something Airstream did in 1970?

I also need to get started on the deck bolts. I think I may try straightening them enough to get the nuts off instead of just cutting them.
That's what they did in the 50s and 60s for sure, the c-channel is actually a "u" channel or even a "j" channel, sitting facing open-site up and bolted down through the floor and outriggers where they intersect. I know Airstream eventually switched to the setup you're describing above, but don't know when. Unless yours has already been repaired once, I'd say it was obviously post-1970.

A lot of folks just use vice grips and twist the bolt back and forth from underneath, until it snaps off. That's what I did. Mine were so rusted there's no way I could have straightened the bolts and backed off the nuts, even if the threads were still unmarred.

Good luck!
-Marcus
utee94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2013, 02:51 PM   #45
Rivet Master
 
Minno's Avatar

 
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington , Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,778
On our trailer, the "C" channel sits on top of the plywood floor only at the front and back ends. It's a U shaped channel with the U facing up.

Along the straight sides, the C channel is a different profile - the plywood fits into a C that sits under the U. This link shows the profile of our straight C channels, even though it's intended for the front & rear ends.

Floor Channel Bow - Narrow Body104463 [104463] - $58.95 : Out-of-Doors Mart!, More Airstream Parts on-line than anyone!
Minno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2013, 11:46 AM   #46
Rivet Master
 
Aviator's Avatar
 
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
Images: 2
Another "washout" day here in Atlanta. I was trying to strip the clearcoat from the trailer before installing the new window and hatch seals and riveting a patch over the spot where the old Armstrong AC was. There a just too many screw holes up there and I think a nice alclad patch would solve the problem. If I decide to put a new AC up there, cutting a hole would be a simple matter, and if I go with a split system, I will need the old hole sealed up.

I think I may try drilling out some rivets on the interior and get a jump on that process. I have had a break from work over the Summer, but it is going to get very busy in a couple of weeks and I want to get as much accomplished as possible prior to that time.
__________________
Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars

AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
Aviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2013, 05:08 PM   #47
Remember, Safety Third
 
Jim & Susan's Avatar

 
1973 27' Overlander
Possum Trot , Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 5,581
Images: 39
Isn't all this rain just insane? Makin' me crazy. It's rained at our house nearly every day since late May. I've been trying to paint (or finish painting) the outside of the house and haven't gotten very far with it.

Your project is moving along really quickly (despite the rain). Keep up the good work.

Jim
__________________
www.nesa.org

Air No. 6427
Jim & Susan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2013, 05:58 PM   #48
Rivet Master
 
Aviator's Avatar
 
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
Images: 2
Thank you for the encouragement. I did manage to get inside this evening and drill out the center piece in the ceiling. One thing I am looking ahead on is a source for a compound curve aluminum end cap. I don't like the plastic one from 1970 in it now.
__________________
Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars

AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
Aviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2013, 06:39 PM   #49
Remember, Safety Third
 
Jim & Susan's Avatar

 
1973 27' Overlander
Possum Trot , Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 5,581
Images: 39
That center piece can be a real pain to get out and back in again. I helped a fellow forum member put one back in just last month. As far as the end cap.....I've seen several members here build one from scratch, which is about the only way you'll find one. Look for threads by Zep and Utee94. One or the other has made one, I'm pretty sure. The memory is the first thing to go you know.

Jim
__________________
www.nesa.org

Air No. 6427
Jim & Susan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2013, 07:20 AM   #50
Rivet Master
 
Skatiero's Avatar
 
1986 32' Excella
Currently Looking...
Canton , Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,342
Images: 25
Nice progress! Check out those homemade interior end caps for sure! They're beautiful. Interesting about your c-channel, take photos!
Skatiero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-18-2013, 06:33 PM   #51
Rivet Master
 
Aviator's Avatar
 
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
Images: 2
Today I managed to strip part of the clearcoat from one side of the trailer. It looks like it will take two applications of the Citristrip product. It attacks the coating on the first coat, but doesn't rinse cleanly. I still prefer it to the more aggressive aircraft paint remover that I have due to the water solubility. However, the trailer needs to be dry to apply it, and IT KEEPS RAINING!

Soon I will have to devise a way to support the shell when off of the frame. The side panels extend down to form the banana wrap which of course doesn't have any ribs behind it to rest the shell on. I need to come up with something stable which is high enough to let the lower portion hang down beside it.
__________________
Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars

AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
Aviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2013, 07:14 PM   #52
Rivet Master
 
Aviator's Avatar
 
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
Images: 2
OK today starts with a note to self. DO NOT TRY TO REINVENT THE WHEEL!

As I am working on this project, I am of course reading and re-reading all of the restoration threads I can find. One I have been following and now can't find the author to thank him properly, talks about removing the old clear coat with Klean Strip or Citristrip and a pressure washer. I think that sounds easy, but I know I have a pretty good garden hose nozzle and surely that will do the job......that wasted a day and a half. Rented the power washer and boom the entire Overlander is clear coat free in 3 hours. to quote the famous philosopher Homer (Simpson) Doh!

Now to remove the interior panels and find all the hidden rivets to free the bosy from the frame......
__________________
Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars

AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
Aviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2013, 08:25 PM   #53
Rivet Master
 
Aviator's Avatar
 
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
Images: 2
After of couple of day hiatus required for gainful employment I was able to return to the Overlander. Most of the interior side panels came out today along with the nasty pink fiberglass insulation. Tomorrow should see the completion of the panels, endcaps and insulation. I was surprised to note that none of the longeron's were connected to the ribs. I remember from reading Kip's thread that some of his weren't. On mine, none of them are.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1554.jpg
Views:	254
Size:	235.6 KB
ID:	194165   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1559.jpg
Views:	260
Size:	241.8 KB
ID:	194166  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1561.jpg
Views:	241
Size:	342.6 KB
ID:	194167   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1562.jpg
Views:	315
Size:	355.9 KB
ID:	194168  

__________________
Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars

AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
Aviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2013, 07:17 PM   #54
Rivet Master
 
Aviator's Avatar
 
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
Images: 2
A bit more has been accomplished the last couple of days. All of the interior is now out including the interior skins and end caps. (The end caps will be for sale on the classified section as soon as I can take some pictures and figure out how to make a listing). Next up will be power washing the interior to get the last of the pink stuff off, building my frame for lifting the shell, and then drilling rivets. I will probably buck rivet patches on some of the holes to keep the rain out as well. I need to find a time when I am ready and my son is available to buck for me.

On big thank you I want to mention is to Colin Hyde. I emailed him a question this morning about the "C" channel on this trailer, and he answered my question over what was most likely his lunch. THANK YOU!

For those who are interested, I was a bit confused as my 1970 does not have a "C" channel as I was mentally picturing from reading other posts. Mine looks like a "U" in form and sits entirely on top of my plywood floor. The floor doesn't fit into any channel or other aluminum form. The "U" is screwed and bolted to the plywood and the body is then buck riveted to the outboard upright leg of the "U".
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1572.jpg
Views:	237
Size:	347.5 KB
ID:	194393   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1569.jpg
Views:	248
Size:	378.0 KB
ID:	194394  

__________________
Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars

AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
Aviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2013, 11:25 PM   #55
4 Rivet Member
 
1955 22' Flying Cloud
mapleton , Utah
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 464
if you wish to tie the ribs and stringers together as Kip did it is actually fairly simple. check out my thread or Kips to get the idea but I actually recycled some C channel that I replaced by cutting it into 1.25 lengths (with my table saw of all things) then cutting off one side with tin snips to end up with a lot of 90 degree pieces which can be riveted in place to stabilize the ends of the stringers. doesn't look like much but made a HUGE difference in the stability and strength of the shell. I have actually tied together the ribs and stringers on every joint on my shell and the result is ridiculously strong and solid.
tim
rumrunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2013, 06:20 AM   #56
Rivet Master
 
Aviator's Avatar
 
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
Images: 2
Thanks, Tim. Kip said he replaced all of his with ones he fabricated. That sounded a bit daunting. I think I will make something along the lines of what you did.
__________________
Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars

AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
Aviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2013, 06:30 PM   #57
3 Rivet Member
 
KAYAKAMPERS's Avatar
 
1999 27' Safari
Stone Mountain , Georgia
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 243
Great shots Craig. You guys are so ambitious, but you need it to bring it back to good camping form. we're looking forward to more progress shots.
__________________
_______________________________
Beth Wallace & Chris Sanor
1999 Safari 27'
1966 26' Overlander International (damaged back panel)

Towed by 2016 Ford F-150
Tin Can Tourist
TAC #GA-27
AIR #34930
KAYAKAMPERS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2013, 08:53 PM   #58
Site Team
 
reinergirl's Avatar

 
1963 26' Overlander
Hollis , New Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,644
Images: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aviator View Post

On big thank you I want to mention is to Colin Hyde. I emailed him a question this morning about the "C" channel on this trailer, and he answered my question over what was most likely his lunch. THANK YOU!
Actually , not his lunch, but he answered you on his vacation time no less! He's currently camping and enjoying his Airstream!
__________________
Shelly : TAC NH-6 | AIR 41359
Visit my blog!
Parts needed : Braund Antenna front tube fold down model!
reinergirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2013, 02:49 PM   #59
Rivet Master
 
Aviator's Avatar
 
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
Images: 2
Wow, even bigger kudos to Colin then. Thank you, sir.

Craig
__________________
Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars

AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
Aviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2013, 06:38 PM   #60
Rivet Master
 
Aviator's Avatar
 
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta , Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
Images: 2
After a nice weekend camping with members of the newest WBCCI Unit "Southeastern Camping Unit" on Lake Lanier, it is time to get back to work. I thought it might be a good idea to patch some of the holes in the shell before lifting it off. Two of them are secured with Cleco's just waiting for my rivet bucker to have time between homework and soccer practice to hold the bucking bar for me.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1587.jpg
Views:	203
Size:	280.2 KB
ID:	194903   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1589.jpg
Views:	196
Size:	257.9 KB
ID:	194904  

__________________
Craig and Carol
1997 34' Excella 1000
1970 27' Overlander, International
2009 Ford F150 5.4L
ProPride hitch with 1400# bars

AIR 41028
TAC GA-8
WBCCI 10199
Past President Southeastern Camping Unit (12)
Aviator is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.