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Old 08-27-2022, 02:31 PM   #1
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Lithium power stations as source?

Has anyone used a Lithium power bank to power the trailer thru the ground power input? These can be had in 2000 watt true sine wave and possibly larger. Jackery is an example. It would seem to be a good solution for everything but the Air Conditioning if you were going to have the occasional overnight off grid but otherwise would be on grid.
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There are several threads on this, and the base answer is 'yes'. Just like any 'generator' you can plug in your 30amp shore power with the appropriate 30amp to 15amp adapter. I use the 2 x 100w Jackery solar panels and can easily run most of the on-board systems.
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Old 08-27-2022, 02:55 PM   #3
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Thanks! That is what I figured. I tried a search but the search feature here seems kinda lame.
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Old 08-27-2022, 08:17 PM   #4
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BTW, Home Depot has the 1000 watt ones on sale today for a ridiculous 28% off (which I think was a pricing mistake).
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Old 08-27-2022, 09:43 PM   #5
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BTW, Home Depot has the 1000 watt ones on sale today for a ridiculous 28% off (which I think was a pricing mistake).
Which unit are you referring to? Home depot sells a lot of these power banks.
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Simple mind here who does not speak tongues..... HUH?
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Old 08-27-2022, 11:27 PM   #7
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Hi

Quic answer is no.

Slightly more evolved answer is maybe .

The most accurate answer is "that depends".

Why the range of answers? What exactly is a "ground power input" ?

If it's the solar charger input on a stock AS the the connector is good
to about 20A ( maybe ). That' is not even close to what you need to boot
up a 2KW inverter. It *might* be enough to keep up with it once you get
it up and running ( maybe ).

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Old 08-28-2022, 01:14 PM   #9
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Why the range of answers? What exactly is a "ground power input" ?
My assumption was that was code for shore power input, hence my 'yes'.

It is no different than plugging into a domestic 15amp socket. You have limited 'amps' available (and if you go over that the Jackery shuts down), and duration (the 1500 has 1500wh/1500w hence its name, so you get a little under an hour of 110v/15a) but it fundamentally works.
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Old 08-28-2022, 04:37 PM   #10
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Only hard test was a rest stop in 110 degrees hooked up the 2000 Jackery. It powered our rear 13k AC sone lights and the TV for 1 hour then the BMS shut it down

So the noisy Honda would have won out for extended time

The Jackery works awesome inside and outside for Air Fryers heaters etc etc etc
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Old 08-28-2022, 05:13 PM   #11
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The Jackery 2000 is a good option for temporary short term use during a short power outage when used with the minimum things like the LED lights , battery charger and roof fans .
I say this because one doesn't know how long the power will be out so one should be prudent with power consumption during an outage .
The Jackery 2000 with 4 solar panels would be a reasonable choice in this situation .

At one point Jackery offered a 3000 "coming soon" but haven't seen one offered since early this year .
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Old 08-28-2022, 05:40 PM   #12
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Last year I was going to bring my Honda 2000i along to a RV park that in the past had a power outage that PG&E caused .
BUT I forgot to load it .
When we got to the park we were notified that PG&E was going to replace some lines in the area and the power was going to be shut off for 14 hours .
Well that didn't happen when they said it would , that gave me time to find a generator . I found one in the next town , a Honda 2200i and a Honda 1000i . Like an Idiot I bought the 1000i figuring it would keep the refer running (no Propane on our Trade Wind) . Well the power went out that night and it got cold so the 1000 was put in service . Wouldn't you know it wouldn't run my little electric heater , good thing we had another even smaller electric heater and that worked but we were cold anyway as the temp dropped down to 40* .

Lesson learned 1000 watt generator is not enough to keep one warm . Should have bought the Honda 2200i companion that would work with my Honda 2000i .
But if I don't load it then what good is it ?!

Point is 1000 watt isn't enough to do much .
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Old 08-28-2022, 06:30 PM   #13
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See post #9 for some examples on how to use a stand-alone lithium battery as a power source.

https://www.airforums.com/forums/f44...on-235168.html
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My camping setup: Delta Pro and 1 extra battery (7.2kWh), 400 watt solar on the roof of the Van (my tow vehicle for the 25' airstream), a manual switch between solar and cig lighter for 12v charging, 110volt charging via
2000 watt inverter, with variable power input up to 1600 watts, 3 supply fans to push cool air to the rear sealed off cargo space.
1 exhaust fan that sits on top of the 30amp cord inlet from the trailer. All fans powered by the Delta pro. 30 amp cord to feed the trailer. 2 hours before arriving at camp, I turn on the 15k btu roof AC. The rest of the traveling day, solar input powers all the trailers power need, like the Fridge and the occasional converter to charge the trailer battery and a second 12v powered Ice chest in the van

Also to clarify, I am using a Renogy 2000w pure sine wave inverter connected to a dual batteries system and a 210 amp alternator on my chevy van.
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Caveat on the generator model

A word of caution on the Home Depot version of the Jackery mentioned in the posts...it is NOT a Jackery 1000 Explorer. It is a Jackery 880 Outdoor. Jackery sells the 880 directly as well, with a lower price than the 1000 (currently $899 for the 880 vs. $999 for the 1000). It seems that both the 880 and the 1000 put out 1000 watts of power, but the 1000 does so for 1000 watt hours while the 880 does (you guessed it) only 880 watt hours. I.e., the 880 delivers the same level of power for a shorter time period.



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Which unit are you referring to? Home depot sells a lot of these power banks.
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Old 09-04-2022, 10:55 AM   #16
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It's a waste of money and electricity.

Why pay extra high markups on over advertised product like a Jackery.

Just add the same amount of lithium batteries in the jakery to your camper it will be cheaper and work better.

There is no magic in a "power station" it's a battery, charger and inverter. You probably already have a charger and inverter why by another.

Second your camper runs a lot of stuff on 12v. But your going to go from 12v to AC in the Jackery only have your camper change it back to 12v for some applications. That wastes a lot of electricity.

In short if you want more batteries get more batteries.
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Why pay extra high markups on over advertised product like a Jackery.

Just add the same amount of lithium batteries in the jakery to your camper it will be cheaper and work better.

There is no magic in a "power station" it's a battery, charger and inverter. You probably already have a charger and inverter why by another.

Second your camper runs a lot of stuff on 12v. But your going to go from 12v to AC in the Jackery only have your camper change it back to 12v for some applications. That wastes a lot of electricity.

In short if you want more batteries get more batteries.

This are my thoughts, also.
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Old 09-04-2022, 12:57 PM   #18
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Suggest you search Goal Zero Yeti. Lots of threads on them, both in use in the Interstates and the Trailers. Some pretty sophisticated integration techniques too. I have four of them, three of the 3000 series of which one is the newer 2000 watt inverter, and one of the 1000 series which is easier to move around. Love the Yeti and you can get them on sale at Costco and REI from time to time. They are on sale now at the Yeti site which usually means the stores will discount too. You get a dividend with REI when NOT on sale of course.
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This are my thoughts, also.


I have a power station because of the portability, 2000w inverter, lithium 300ah battery, versus the AGMs/1000w inverter/etc in the 2022 caravel.

I found it to be easier, more cost effective, and serves more purposes for me than just adding batteries to my rv. When the AGMs need to be replaced, Ill go the lithium route with upgraded technology.
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Reality is, to be safe- get yourself a 2000W generator like the Honda 2200. If your counting on not being near AC hookups, and your perhaps camping under tree canopy (think Glacier Park) or the weather is not providing enough direct sun to charge your solar, you will be glad you have the generator. We have the propane model from Genconnex. We used 10 times this year while in Glacier as backup charge to our AS power source (2 6V Trojans); last year we only used once; that was on TX coast when we wanted to run the AC for couple hours in late afternoon. We do have a portable GoPower solar suitcase we use when we have clear sun and no power; also River Max we use to power some electronics as backup when needed. Some folks have much more elaborate/expensive solar/LI systems, as you may know if you read here. You can go crazy with technology! Assess your style of camping and needs. You can always add more to your support system as you think you need. No shortage of short term solutions...but the generator to us, is....insurance. Power has to come from somewhere when the sun ain't shining!
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