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Old 03-06-2008, 08:15 AM   #21
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Interesting.....is it possible to remove all to things we do not like about Rallies now and try something new? I have a small list but I would start with food. Did i mention bad food.
-it is POSSIBLE, but you would have to make sure the food preparation was entrusted only to 'streamers from South Louisiana..

Fred Coldwell, YES! my new hero... that dude knows his vintage!
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Extra ham-in-water for Gary and Paul at the next rally!!!!

and ya know...young "hipsters" have been using the term "jam" for longer than they've been making airstreams.

[old fart/on] "you kids today...you probably think you invented sex, too! [old fart/off]

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Old 03-06-2008, 08:59 AM   #23
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I agree with John, Vintage is the new Hip. As far as the using the word Jam. Tony Hawk (the skateboarder) is famous for his annual event called the "Boom Boom Huck Jam" and is considered hip by many of the "young." Though he is turning 40 this year I doubt he will be changing the event name to "rally"
But if the marketing men proclaim vintage hip, is that not the death nell of the cool factor? Just by using a youth catch word, it is the antitesis of vintage essence. Just look at the Harley crowd. Take a product, add the lifestyle element and delute with mass marketing. not cool.

And nothing makes my dentures rattle more then a bunch of baggy panted dudes banging their boards against the sidewalk. Get a job, hoodlum!

But really, if Mr. Hawk was really cool would he care what it is called? I suppose it depends on the target market. Now I cannot get the picture of Jammed toes out of my head.

I was never hip, but owned a Hobie skateboard back in the mid 60's. Ordered it in the mail, waited two weeks...was that exciting opening that box! Wish I still owned it.

How about a sub section forum for skateboarding Airstreamers? just kidding Mods!
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And nothing makes my dentures rattle more then a bunch of baggy panted dudes banging their boards against the sidewalk. Get a job, hoodlum!
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"Mr Hawk" uses his board and baggy pants to make $10 million a year. It's a crazy world to us "old folks." LOL!
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:33 AM   #25
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I'd be prone to think that since Rich is a connoisseur of barbecue and Eleanor a gourmet chef the food offering won't be in the paltry category.

And for speakers, besides Fred as mentioned, Pee Wee would be a wonderful addition to the line-up.

The jam sounds more akin to the great Homecoming celebrations at Jackson Center and a huge block party with penty to do! Not being limited to Airstreams it would also be more along the lines of the Tin Can Tourists events and concourse with many wonderful and varied vintage trailers.
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Coincidentally, the past two days I have been talking to Fred Coldwell about coming to the VTJ '08. Like you, I would very much would like to have him come and present one of his very interesting historical talks. He has tentatively consented, schedule permitting. I'll update the VTJ 08 home page when this is confirmed.

We're also working on other presenters, which is one reason why the schedule isn't nailed down yet. Stay tuned!
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Old 03-06-2008, 11:44 AM   #27
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Coincidentally, the past two days I have been talking to Fred Coldwell about coming to the VTJ '08. Like you, I would very much would like to have him come and present one of his very interesting historical talks. He has tentatively consented, schedule permitting. I'll update the VTJ 08 home page when this is confirmed.

We're also working on other presenters, which is one reason why the schedule isn't nailed down yet. Stay tuned!

I volunteer to drive the GTO while Fred shares his knowledge on Vintage row.

Now contact Dr. Daze for a lecture on Vintage restoration blunders!

Colin can give a talk on how it really is possible to spend over 100K on a show trailer.

Now your talking!
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not to open a can'o'hams, but...

this event isn't LIMITED to aluminum tubes, correct?

any and all OLD rvs are welcome?

i like jam, but given the focus on old stuff, perhaps this is a preserves event.

conserve is another word for jam...

unless things go sour then it would be marmalade.

and don't forget the lemon curd...

now...

did some one say there will be PIE?

cherry, blueberry, strawberry, coconut, apple, pumpkin, peach and swiss chocolate will do fine...

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Marmalade requires PEEL. Does that mean trailers that are de-clearcoating are welcome?
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i 4 got the pie pictures...

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If they serve PIE at this JAM I promise to stop complaining about the burnt flesh dinner offerings!
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Just by using a youth catch word, it is the antitesis of vintage essence. Just look at the Harley crowd. Take a product, add the lifestyle element and delute with mass marketing. not cool.
Cool is what you make it, brother. To me, what makes the vintage crowd special, the essence as it were, is the attitude of the people. I would guess that the people that own the vintage trailers are more interested in the camping aspect of the product. If someone comes along and wants to call a rally a "Jam", that's fine by me. Just make sure that we don't need to follow Roberts Rules when the time comes to decide what brand of beer to drink at Happy Hour.

See more, do more, live more. It's always been about the lifestyle. Or at least it was supposed to be.
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Interesting.....is it possible to remove all to things we do not like about Rallies now and try something new? I have a small list but I would start with food. Did i mention bad food. bad, cold, dished out in small portions by the same people collecting the fees? Yes, that's right, I am not going to let this food topic go until someone tells me it's optional.
Well sure it's possible! Have you ever heard that whoever comes up with a better idea is in charge. Plan the rally and we will come.
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Vintage Travel trailers and RVs to gather at Saratoga Automobile Museum

UPDATE: Vintage Trailer Jam '08

Looks like Fred's in for a speaker! (thumbs up) I wonder what the tally is up to for participants. And it appears Open House is free.

New announcement at CliftonPark.org

"Vintage Trailer Jam 2008" will be held July 11-14, 2008 at Saratoga Spa State Park, Saratoga Springs NY

In an unprecedented event, open to the public, one hundred vintage travel trailers and motorhomes will camp on the grounds of the Saratoga Automobile Museum in Saratoga Springs State Park this July.

Many of these classic vehicles, dating from the 1940s through the late 1970s, will be open to the public on Saturday, July 12 from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. Members of the media are invited to call in advance for escorted tours.

Alan Edstrom, Director of Programs and Events at the Saratoga Automobile Museum talked about the excitement that the Vintage Trailer collaboration has brought to the community, "This has got to be one of the most amazing summers that the Saratoga Automobile Museum has had, with over a dozen lawn shows. The Vintage Trailer Jam is the cherry on the top - drawing in many people who ordinarily wouldn't even think of coming to a car show. Somehow it evokes warm memories a kind of 'I'VE GOT TO SEE THAT!' experience."

Among the vehicles on display will be travel trailers and motorhomes by Airstream, Spartan, Serro Scotty, Vagabond, Shasta, Avion, Argosy, and Airfloat. The vehicles will be occupied by their owners during the event.

The Vintage Trailer Jam will also include seminars for owners and would-be owners, on topics such as restoration, travel destinations, RV history, and buying vintage trailers. Walk-in admission to the seminars is $45, but the Open House is free to all.

The event will also include a sword-swallowing and fire-eating show, a judged Concourse Event with prizes, and a vintage parts flea market on Monday, July 14. Early-bird parking is available for participants on Thursday, July 10.

During the Vintage Trailer Jam, the Saratoga Automobile Museum will be exhibiting a display of GTOs from Electric City GTOs, in anticipation of their National Convention coming to town July 15-19.

Saratoga Springs is a great location for everyone, with world-class spas, museums, great restaurants, bicycling, dozens of attractions, and great camping in nearby state parks. Please note that activities, invited speakers, and amenities are subject to change prior to event dates.
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Thanks Carol......
for the related info on the area.

We will be there with our well travelled 1962 Safari ...having sent in our donation last week to the VintageTrailerSupply web site.

I did some research about the location and it sounds like there is something for everyone. It looks like the auto museum is located within the park that also contains an outdoor concert area, a restaurant, an old dance hall, spring house, and a large hotel.

Having Fred Coldwell as historian in residence is a big plus for attending.

All kidding aside about the "Jammin" name and the BBQ commentary , this sounds like a great location to hold a gathering of vintage and new trailer enthusiasts. And Steve of VTS will be making accommodations for the vegetarian crowd, small that it is.

Thanks again to the organisers for thinking it up. Looking for to it.
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Food, Name, whatever.

I'm fairly new to this airstream thing, I guess you could call me a youngin.
maybe one of those new hipsters. But thanks for organizing this airstream event in new york. Most of the events that I have seen are mostly on that other coast. To put an event like this on is no small task.

The name and food had no effect on me signing up. The events, location and professional seminars made this a no brainer. After I signed up and noticed the one year extension to my airstream life subscription was a pleasent bonus. Already signed up and rairing to go.

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Thanks Rich! One more question -- what is the event cancellation policy?

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