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Old 08-11-2015, 11:45 AM   #81
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Ray, you were in charge, you did well. Do it again.
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Old 08-11-2015, 11:50 AM   #82
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One late afternoon during the Quemado, NM Boondocking trip, several of us sat down and laid pennies on a Wyoming map for a 7 to 10 day route. Brent and Richard are names that come to mind, but they have an option to deny even being in attendance.

The trip, to be polite, would begin at Laramie, Wyoming at the Territorial Prison parking lot and end up somewhere near Pinedale, Wyoming into the Red Desert region. Prison is a good place to stop and visit just to get a introduction of what could be awaiting at other campsites.
Nope, nope, I have no idea what you're talking about. Wasn't there, you're crazy.

Actually that's more detail than I remember. Red Desert??? Oh boy, I can give a great tour of some lovely oil and gas wells. Just kidding, it'll be fun, and way different than most folks are accustomed to. We can park all the campers around the tree, for shade.
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Old 08-11-2015, 11:59 AM   #83
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As I see it, the biggest problem with WBCCI's organizational structure is that it absolutely ensures that any problem that can't be solved in one year cannot be solved at all, ever. Because the issues important to this year's president is meaningless to next year's president, and apparently only the President can appoint committees to address problems. So if the committee isn't done in a year, the next president will abolish the committee.

And of course the many "standing" committees— that can't be formed or abolished from one year to the next— mostly aren't organized to solve the club's problems; they're organized to maintain the status quo, in other words to perpetuate the problems. Honestly, twenty standing committees, and when they present their reports at the IBT, the only one apparently making any progress at all toward positive change is the Electronic Communication Committee. The others, they just always seem to keep doing what they've been doing.
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Old 08-11-2015, 04:19 PM   #84
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yes, that would be the correct way to go about it.
gather data, gather more data...then research it some more. Eventually, you might actually fix the damn trailer. (just don't hold your breath).
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Greetings, fellow Meyer-Briggs INTJ personality type!

We're such a rare type (probably under 2% of the population) that maybe it would be fun to have our own separate rally..... of course, after considerable analysis, and probably putting each of us in separate campgrounds.
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Old 08-11-2015, 06:29 PM   #85
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Len N I will come to your rally if you can assure me no one else will be there....well, in the same state is ok, but don't let it get it crowded....
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Old 08-23-2015, 08:22 AM   #86
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I just simply don't have time. First and foremost is planning a trip and hitting the road with my family. We are lucky to even have time to do that. One day, when the kids are grown and perhaps my wife and I are retired, well join because we will be bored and in need of friends.
Man, you hit that nail squarely on the head.

I expound your observations with the following. When my husband and I first got our Airstream almost a year ago, I thought about joining WBCCI... my thought was, why not? What possible harm could it do? Even though our participation would need to be severely limited, we would learn new things, as we always do when we join new groups.

But then I found out how many people hold the overriding a priori belief that we absolutely MUST be people of leisure simply because we own an Airstream. My husband and I both have jobs, are not retired, and we have a child at home who starts her senior year of high school tomorrow. Things have been so crazy with an elective summer school credit for her, college counseling, related issues, and now the looming specter of the college application process... we had to abandon our plans to take the Airstream on our 2015 summer vacation due to the time constraints. We couldn't even manage the type of limited family time that you referred to in your comment.

Rightly or wrongly, I have become afraid that I would just see an intensification of this leisure assumption if we joined WBCCI. I would not want to join something only to spend a lot of my time explaining why my husband and I cannot participate in this or that - that would not be pleasant or productive for anyone. But I certainly would not rule it out for the future when our circumstances change.
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Old 08-23-2015, 09:24 AM   #87
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Been there, done that and moved on.
See http://www.airforums.com/forums/f286...-120353-2.html #14, 16 & 25.

I'm a part-timer; I spend the 5 winter months in and around AZ. While I thoroughly enjoy sitting around a campfire while boondocking with friends in Quartzsite, I absolutely detest the idea of going on a cruise or to Club Med. While I like going to a rally, I find that that those of the WBCCI are not enjoyable - it seems as though the people all think that this is a mini-cruise. As well, the pomp & ceremony is definitely not my thing. After having worked for 30 years for the Canadian government in a central agency where I had to be in a suit & tie, I now wear only jeans and tee-shirts.

I had been a member of the WBCCI for over 10 years. The early years were a learning experience. I did go on a unit caravan to Bozeman MT, which I did enjoy and then took the caravan leaders' course. I then led a caravan to Madison WI, and I found the experience most dissatisfying (that's putting it mildly!) - I was roundly and very coarsely berated by the unit president's husband when a campground reneged on their availability. Unfortunately, at the time, I was a newbie and what I should have done was to expel his rig from the caravan.

I actually enjoy one or 2 rigs traveling along with me.
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