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PeterH-350LE · 04-28-2002, 07:04 PM

Alan, you have every right to be disturbed about your experience, especially after we had such a great time at Mystic Springs.
Maybe thats why Sandy and Rona made the comment:
"Its so great to see you having so much fun!"
There are so many fantastic State Parks in this country, no need to expose yourself and your family to this kind of intolerance!
This weekend they had a rally in Boerne, Tx, close to San Antonio and I wanted to go. But Catstream said no way and that she is 'afraid' of 'them'.

This club has to prove to me that it's worth joining them, until then I only will be a M7 charter member.

M7RIG1

ViewRVs · 04-28-2002, 07:09 PM

Compare that to the excellent welcome we received from Mystic Springs! Alan and I received e-mails in advance from the club officers that were delighted to have our rally there. Kids and dogs, we all had a great time. The welcome/farewell chalkboard was just icing on the cake!

I have read that the RV set has a division that is older and dislikes kids and pets. It is also true that with falling WBCCI membership, attracting younger families is CRITICAL for their future. I say we put together a list of family friendly parks and hold those that aren't accountable.

I wonder if that experience is typical at TOG or just a bad moment? The camp hosts and visitors probably change over time. My suggestion is to write a complaint letter to the responsible group.

eraffety · 04-28-2002, 07:36 PM

Seems to me I read somewhere (Hunter Hampton's travel tales?) that Hunter had a HORRIBLE experience at TOG and she refuses to go there again!

I, for one, refuse to even give them a chance -

It's too bad - I was all set to join the WBCCI, but I have read, not only here but on other lists as well, about their bias towards younger people (my husband and I are in our mid-thirties), kids and pets! Also, single women traveling alone!

I stand behind you, Alan, in boycotting this particular park.

Airstream402001 · 04-28-2002, 11:52 PM

Hi Alan
Sorry to hear of the less than enjoyable experience at TOG.
I attended the Fla State Rally at Sarasota in Feb., and was flabbergasted at some of the rules and behavior of some of the WBCCI members. Most are friendly, interesting , and willing to welcome a new member at large to his first rally. However, I attended a banquet, by myself of course, and my fellow WBCCI members at my eating area treated me as if I was invisible.After repeated attempts to engage them in a conversation or to join them in theirs were twarted, I gave up and ate my meal in silence.
Again, I met some very nice people, but many of the members seem to be oblivious to the fact that WBCCI needs to attract new members, and that many of the new Airstreamers have children and pets.
WBCCI is an old, good organization. But in many respects, they operate as if this is 1962.

Cliff in Indiana

winner · 04-29-2002, 06:23 AM

Our money has already been sent to the South Carolina Chapter, and we have received very pleasant telephone calls and a letter from both the President and Membership Secretary - welcoming us to visit their Cove (camp) as visitor, before our membership is processed, which by the way we intend to do. I intend to write a letter to the National Headquarters, with a copy to the SC Chapter to see just how interested the organization would be in stamping out prejudice to vibrant youthful membership, with their children and pets. I am prone to give it a chance , but we would be the first to bail out if we encounter any of this sort of thing which Cliff and Alan are reporting. From my viewpoint They need us, We don't need them. Situations like not being able to use power, etc., a rallies speaks of poor organizational planning, etc. I sorta view these actions as representing a type of inner resentment towards a youthful element in an elder society that so to speak is "over the hill".

LKappenman · 04-29-2002, 12:05 PM

We belong to the club in Lacey WA and they are very friendly. Always willing to help with knowledge or working with you. Very large area to "camp" with hook-ups and a large rec hall for gatherings. It is also nice that if you were to stay there for a few days and want to explore the ocean is about 1-2 hours away, many cute small towns the capitol in Olympia Mt St Helens is about 1 hour south Many things to see and do. We have found that without fail every place we stay people have been very friendly occassionally we get a grump but not often. We have grandchildren ranging from 6-19 (8 total) plus a 3 1/2 lb dog. Of course we have never taken 8 grandchildren with us that would probably put me over the edge. But we love meeting people with children along. Keeps us all young!

ViewRVs · 04-29-2002, 12:21 PM

To continue this discussion, I started a thread in:

Forums > Airstream Community Forums > Our Community > WBCCI family/children/pet friendly?

O.k., We take TOG off the rally list until the issue is resolved. When and where are the next motorhome rallys?

ViewRVs · 05-26-2002, 06:21 PM

I'm going to bring this up again!!!

Mid-October Fall Rallys
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Weekends are 10/5-6, 10/12-13, 10/19-20, 10/26-27
#1 East Coast/Central - ????
(Cherokee Land Yacht Harbor (OK) was nixed)
#2 West Coast - proposed for Land Yacht Harbor in Lacey, WA

Annual Spring Motorhome Rallys
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Southeast
(more organized than our first)
April 4,5, & 6th, 2003 at Mystic Springs
April 2,3,& 4th, 2004 at Mystic Springs.
(TOG eliminated themselves from consideration)

West Coast
April 4,5, & 6th, 2003 at TBD
April 2,3,& 4th, 2004 at TBD

The farther out we set the dates, the better the attendance will be! Maybe we should set a goal of 5/7 to have dates set.

winner · 05-27-2002, 02:42 PM

Don't think this matter was ever resolved - just discussed.
In my last exchange of emails with Peter H, he indicated they were still planning on Arkansas in Mid-October and what about us - We indicated to him that was the scope of our planning at the moment. Is this not a viable option to be voted by the group (M7+ Others)???

ALANSD · 05-28-2002, 11:01 AM

Arkansas is out of the question for me, due to work schedule.
We are travelling extensively this summer and when school starts up again we will have only short weekend trips available to us.

ViewRVs · 05-28-2002, 11:56 AM

I will volunteer to organize a April 4,5, & 6th, 2003 rally at Mystic Springs. 'Bogia Boogie 2003'. We could then look into a caravan to Kennedy Space Center and see if we can tour the Astrovan. Maybe even a photo with our units!

I will leave the Fall and west coast rallys to anyone that wishes to take on the responsibility.

ALANSD · 05-29-2002, 11:26 AM

I like that idea. I am open if anyone in the motorhome mania group in or near the midwest wants to do
something in June next year that is further out. St Louis- K City- etc.-

thenewkid64 · 05-29-2002, 12:16 PM

Fred,

Should we start a thread for this rally and start taking suggestions on activities, meal plans, etc.?

I think we could get some of the people from Florida that are planning on going to the Region 3 rally in Willamsburg to do a rally hop to us.

I have some other ideas I want to float, I will PM you later.

ALANSD · 05-29-2002, 12:36 PM

organizational ideas are great--- if we get an early start we can plan better. This years was fun, but limited as we never knew how many were really going to come. I learned a lot, and hope to learn more next time.
I think if we all chip in and buy a group project Airstream we could rebuild it over the weekend.

hey- have you seen that British Argosy that appeared on Ebay today? Only 43,000 US opening bid.