Free 7 Day Trial RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Free 7 Day Trial ×
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-20-2021, 07:11 PM   #1
3 Rivet Member
 
1999 28' Excella
Lake Mary , Florida
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 187
Recycle/Refill your 1 pound LP tanks

Using a 20lb BBQ LP tank to refill and reuse your small LP tanks for outdoor grills or heaters.
Saves lots of $$$

suncoasteng is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2021, 08:49 PM   #2
4 Rivet Member

 
2021 27' Globetrotter
Daytona Beach , Florida
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 351
I've converted most of my propane stuff to run off my trailers low pressure port and those that I can't convert, I'm using a hose extension and a 20lb tank. I won't use the 1lb green bottles anymore.
nitzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2021, 09:36 PM   #3
Rivet Master
 
2020 23' Flying Cloud
Sebastian , Florida
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 909
I got tired of dealing with regulators that failed at the most awkward times on my Q grill and converted it to run directly from the A-S supplied low pressure port. Most other campsite appliances use too much fuel to run off the green toy bottles.
There have been many amusing (for a vicarious reader) posts on this forum about what happens when the process goes wrong. And those are just from the members that lived to tell the tale...
Why take chances? There are 5 and 11 pound cylinders available at the big box stores. Our local RV dealer, as well as Tractor Supply, charges by the pound, regardless of amount put in the tank. More convenient and WAYYY safer.
__________________
-Don
(That man in that tiny can)
(Same man, Bigger can)
GetawA-S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2021, 01:28 AM   #4
Rivet Master

 
2007 22' International CCD
Corona , California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 8,927
If you take the time to read the label on ANY disposable propane bottle, you will note that it is against the law to refill the bottles. The reason is these cheap bottles are filled very precisely by automated machines to an exact weight.

Any slight overfill will lead to excess propane in the bottle, and put it at a higher pressure, which can cause the bottle to swell or burst. In other words, refilling creates a bomb. Not a wise thing to do.

Bottom line, it’s a totally stupid dangerous thing to do.

You want refillable small bottles, buy a real, properly designed refillable bottle with a proper fill valve or ‘ten percent’ valve built in to fill it properly. This practice is one of those that seems safe, until it isn’t, usually results in an explosion or a fire.

I really get tired of seeing d*mn fools espouse dangerous and illegal practices on assorted media….
__________________
Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
rmkrum is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2021, 11:13 AM   #5
3 Rivet Member
 
DaveG's Avatar
 
Here and There , Pacific Northwest
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 154
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum View Post
If you take the time to read the label on ANY disposable propane bottle, you will note that it is against the law to refill the bottles. The reason is these cheap bottles are filled very precisely by automated machines to an exact weight.

Any slight overfill will lead to excess propane in the bottle, and put it at a higher pressure, which can cause the bottle to swell or burst. In other words, refilling creates a bomb. Not a wise thing to do.

Bottom line, it’s a totally stupid dangerous thing to do.

You want refillable small bottles, buy a real, properly designed refillable bottle with a proper fill valve or ‘ten percent’ valve built in to fill it properly. This practice is one of those that seems safe, until it isn’t, usually results in an explosion or a fire.

I really get tired of seeing d*mn fools espouse dangerous and illegal practices on assorted media….
------------------------------
The only 1 lb bottle I have seen claiming it is refillable is Flame King and I believe they are in recall for a welding problem. Flame King has an entire refill kit available (but not available - maybe do to supply chain issues?). We purchase the Coleman brand bottle and discard. Also using just any hose right off a tank without a regulator in front of it is another issue worth research. If you use an item like a ceramic heater the wrong hose will cause failure from oil getting squeezed out (hose expands then contracts with pressure) of the hose material clogging the heating unit. Let's also agree it is dangerous to run an air driven impact tool off a propane tank People suggest some crazy things on assorted media.
DaveG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2021, 12:14 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
1988 32' Excella
Robbinsville , New Jersey
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,786
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum View Post
If you take the time to read the label on ANY disposable propane bottle, you will note that it is against the law to refill the bottles. The reason is these cheap bottles are filled very precisely by automated machines to an exact weight.

Any slight overfill will lead to excess propane in the bottle, and put it at a higher pressure, which can cause the bottle to swell or burst. In other words, refilling creates a bomb. Not a wise thing to do.

Bottom line, it’s a totally stupid dangerous thing to do.

You want refillable small bottles, buy a real, properly designed refillable bottle with a proper fill valve or ‘ten percent’ valve built in to fill it properly. This practice is one of those that seems safe, until it isn’t, usually results in an explosion or a fire.

I really get tired of seeing d*mn fools espouse dangerous and illegal practices on assorted media….
Actually the labels say it's illegal to transport a bottle that has been refilled.

Still i agree not worth refilling those bottle.
Wazbro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2021, 12:44 PM   #7
Rivet Master

 
2003 25' Classic
Antsville , FUBAR
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 18,655
Images: 1
I refill the one pounder's until they fail the bubble test, usually 3-4 times.

POI I've never had an overfill problem when bleed filling from our Barbecue tank, they usually fill to just under 3/4lb.
I think it may be impossible to overfill without a pump.🤔

BTW....The 'tank inspector shows up at my site and asks to see all my 'legal' 1lb tanks, how's he 'gonn'a know the ones I've refilled 3 times?

Bob
🇺🇸
ROBERT CROSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2021, 01:35 PM   #8
2 Rivet Member
 
Petaluma , California
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 27
So, let me see if I can follow the logic....spend $70-$100+K on an Airstream, $70-$80K on a TV and it's the best thing to do is refill $5 LP bottles and use scrap lumber for pads....gotta think on that....
TinShanty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2021, 01:57 PM   #9
Site Team
 
Janet H's Avatar

 
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen , Washington
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,583
Images: 90
FlameKing makes a dot compliant refillable 1 pound bottle (and refill kit)but the disposable tanks... no.

Good reading here: https://www.rvtravel.com/why-you-sho...ane-cylinders/
__________________
1964 Overlander | 2020 Mercedes GLE
Current Project: 1964 Globetrotter



AirForums Custom Search
Janet H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2021, 02:06 PM   #10
Rivet Master
 
davidz71's Avatar
 
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle , Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,288
Images: 23
I use Flame King 1 lb. refillable bottles on my Weber Q grill by using the Flame King kit and I am having no problems at all. I kept having problems with hoses and the 20 lb. tank on the Weber but 1 lb. tanks work fine. I got tired of the rising prices on Coleman lb. bottles and went the other route. I do use a 20 lb. tank with a Buddy heater/filter or an Olympian Wave 6 heater without problems. I also use a 6" x 6" x 12" chunk off a barn post under my trailer jack with perfect results. These work for me.
__________________
Craig

AIR #0078
'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
265 watt AM Solar, Inc. system
davidz71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2021, 02:08 PM   #11
Rivet Master

 
2017 25' International
West Lake Hills , Texas
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 764
Quote:
Originally Posted by GetawA-S View Post
...converted it to run directly from the A-S supplied low pressure port.
...Tractor Supply, charges by the pound, regardless of amount put in the tank.
^1 on TS and AS low pressure port.

A 20-foot propane hose (as previously mentioned) replaced the 20# propane tank.

There was a Tractor Supply in about every moderately-sized town we passed through this fall.
Fungus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2021, 03:26 PM   #12
Moderator
 
jcanavera's Avatar

 
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton , Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,109
Images: 143
Send a message via AIM to jcanavera Send a message via Skype™ to jcanavera
I ditched the 1 lb bottles when I bought my Q, Instead I carry a small 11 lb bottle with a long hose. Works great with the Q and gives me a lot of flexibility as to where I cook!

Jack
__________________
Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500,'14 Honda CTX 700
jcanavera is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2021, 03:32 PM   #13
3 Rivet Member
 
DonRich7878's Avatar
 
2013 30' Classic
Key West , Florida
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 100
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum View Post
If you take the time to read the label on ANY disposable propane bottle, you will note that it is against the law to refill the bottles. The reason is these cheap bottles are filled very precisely by automated machines to an exact weight.

Any slight overfill will lead to excess propane in the bottle, and put it at a higher pressure, which can cause the bottle to swell or burst. In other words, refilling creates a bomb. Not a wise thing to do.

Bottom line, it’s a totally stupid dangerous thing to do.

You want refillable small bottles, buy a real, properly designed refillable bottle with a proper fill valve or ‘ten percent’ valve built in to fill it properly. This practice is one of those that seems safe, until it isn’t, usually results in an explosion or a fire.

I really get tired of seeing d*mn fools espouse dangerous and illegal practices on assorted media….

I think RMKrum wants to speak with a manager...
DonRich7878 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2021, 04:02 PM   #14
Rivet Master

 
2003 25' Classic
Antsville , FUBAR
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 18,655
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinShanty View Post
So, let me see if I can follow the logic....spend $70-$100+K on an Airstream, $70-$80K on a TV and it's the best thing to do is refill $5 LP bottles and use scrap lumber for pads....gotta think on that....

Don't hurt the brain locker...TETO.

The Airstreamers Credo...
“If you’re happy with what you’re doing…it’s good.
If other people are unhappy….it’s not”
RLC

Bob
🇺🇸
ROBERT CROSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2021, 04:08 PM   #15
3 Rivet Member
 
Jeff7176's Avatar
 
2018 25' International
Full-time , Traveler
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 124
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus View Post
^1 on TS and AS low pressure port.

A 20-foot propane hose (as previously mentioned) replaced the 20# propane tank.

There was a Tractor Supply in about every moderately-sized town we passed through this fall.

+2...the low pressure port is great and we are big fans of Tractor Supply.
Jeff7176 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2021, 10:40 AM   #16
Rivet Master
 
Mollysdad's Avatar

 
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa , Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 6,244
Blog Entries: 1
I looked into a 5 pound tank and the price was $115!
I can go through a lot of green bottles for $115.
Mollysdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2021, 11:37 AM   #17
Lost in America
 
mojo's Avatar
 
2015 27' FB International
2006 25' Safari FB SE
2004 19' International CCD
Santa Fe , New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,986
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum View Post
If you take the time to read the label on ANY disposable propane bottle, you will note that it is against the law to refill the bottles. The reason is these cheap bottles are filled very precisely by automated machines to an exact weight.

Any slight overfill will lead to excess propane in the bottle, and put it at a higher pressure, which can cause the bottle to swell or burst. In other words, refilling creates a bomb. Not a wise thing to do.

Bottom line, it’s a totally stupid dangerous thing to do.

You want refillable small bottles, buy a real, properly designed refillable bottle with a proper fill valve or ‘ten percent’ valve built in to fill it properly. This practice is one of those that seems safe, until it isn’t, usually results in an explosion or a fire.

I really get tired of seeing d*mn fools espouse dangerous and illegal practices on assorted media….

You actually read directions?
__________________
This is the strangest life I've ever known - J. Morrison

2015 Airstream International Serenity 27FB
2017
Chevy Silverado 2500HD Duramax Diesel

mojo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2021, 12:27 PM   #18
Site Team
 
Rich W's Avatar

 
2006 23' Safari SE
I'm In , Kentucky
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,175
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollysdad View Post
I looked into a 5 pound tank and the price was $115!
I can go through a lot of green bottles for $115.
My 30 lb. cylinders have both expired but one was still full. I looked at buying a new one a couple years ago and the price wasn't much above a 20 lb. Now the price is about 50% higher plus the tank needs to be purged before filling, which is an extra charge. I took the empty one to our local LP gas place and they did a swap out, like Blue Rhino does. The guy said "are you sure it's expired?" because the tank looked in good condition. He checked the date and agreed. I got another one that was full but it looked like it had been through the wringer. For $39 I'm not complaining... too much, but I'll be using that one first.
__________________
-Rich
Rich & Yvonne
2006 Safari SE -Dora-
2004 4Runner SE 4.7L V8
Rich W is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2021, 02:06 PM   #19
Rivet Master

 
2007 22' International CCD
Corona , California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 8,927
Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo View Post
You actually read directions?


It’s been known to happen in a moment of weakness. I still keep my ‘man card’ handy.
__________________
Rich, KE4GNK/AE, Overkill Engineering Dept.
'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
rmkrum is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2021, 06:08 PM   #20
Moderator
 
jcanavera's Avatar

 
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Fenton , Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 10,109
Images: 143
Send a message via AIM to jcanavera Send a message via Skype™ to jcanavera
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollysdad View Post
I looked into a 5 pound tank and the price was $115!
I can go through a lot of green bottles for $115.
If you look at different outlets I found some as low a $50. I think I paid about $20 for my 11 lb tank many years ago. Average I have seen in this part of the country is about $65. Funny that the 20lb tank actually is priced as low as $32. I've save a lot of $$ over the years cooking with that tank rather than the disposables.

Jack
__________________
Jack Canavera
STL Mo.
AIR #56 S/OS#15
'04 Classic 30' S.O.,'03 GMC Savana 2500,'14 Honda CTX 700
jcanavera is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Recycle, Sell, Repurpose or Trash? Paddledipper Brakes & Brake Controllers 9 10-20-2014 10:28 PM
Recycle that old copper pipe idroba Fresh Water Systems 1 08-03-2012 03:59 AM
About to Recycle my Reese Dual Cam thecatsandi Hitches, Couplers & Balls 11 11-30-2011 08:31 PM
Old LP tanks vs. new Aluminum, refill? cuyeda LP Gas, Piping, Tanks & Regulators 4 12-04-2006 04:08 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.