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08-25-2010, 07:56 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1999 34' Limited
Darien
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Horizonal 40# bottle for 99 34 Limited
We're on the road in Arizona and I took one of our bottles to be filled and they said they couldn't fill it, and that the valve had a small dent on one side of it... Couldn't replace the valve either.....Went to the Airstream dealer in Tucson, he wants to sell me a new bottle for $700+ Seems kind of extreme to me for one bottle.....Any ideas where I can get either a new valve or maybe find a used bottle that will fit??? These are the Worthington Aluminum horizontal 40 pounders....
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1999 Airstream 34' Limited (The Cottage)
2008 F-350 Diesel
WBCCI # 4106
Steve & Jan
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08-25-2010, 08:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 23' Safari
1954 29' Liner
Orange
, California
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,857
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Vintage Trailer Supply for only$309.99: Vertical Aluminum Propane Tanks
Bill
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Originally Posted by 99Limited34
We're on the road in Arizona and I took one of our bottles to be filled and they said they couldn't fill it, and that the valve had a small dent on one side of it... Couldn't replace the valve either.....Went to the Airstream dealer in Tucson, he wants to sell me a new bottle for $700+ Seems kind of extreme to me for one bottle.....Any ideas where I can get either a new valve or maybe find a used bottle that will fit??? These are the Worthington Aluminum horizontal 40 pounders....
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1973 Dodge W200 PowerWagon, 1977 Lincoln Continental, 2014 Dodge Durango
1979 23' Safari, and 1954 29' Double Door Liner Orange, CA
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08-25-2010, 09:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
1963 26' Overlander
1989 34' Excella
Johnsburg
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Horizontal bottles have horizontal valves. Vertical cylinders have vertical valves. I would suggest you go to a larger propane suppliers who might be able to sell you a new horizontal valve.
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08-26-2010, 09:28 AM
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
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I second dwightdi - go see your local propane dealer (not the fill-up guys). I've had my valves replaced at resonable cost. Even though mine are vertical, I believe they would have helped me with whatever I needed.
Pat
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08-26-2010, 10:24 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1994 21' Sovereign
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 175
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Try Barnett's Propane, on freeway access road, eastbound I-10 between 22nd and 29th street in Tucson, they may be able to help you if anyone can.
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08-26-2010, 10:24 AM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,169
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Horizontal tanks pose a particular problem. The tanks cannot have OPD valves retrofitted because the new horizontal OPD valves require a separate fill port instead of being filled through the service port. A new tank will have the extra port, and will have a frame so that it's always in a consistent orientation when in use. As a result, it won't fit in your existing propane locker without modification.
Because of the costs, horizontal tanks are exempted from the OPD requirements at least in some jurisdictions. Not all dealers know this and some who do still won't fill them because of insurance regulations.
It would be most unusual for a valve to be dented. If something really happened to the valve, well, yes, you should get a replacement tank, from Vintage Trailer Supply or someplace else on the web, realizing that it will have to be modified. There are threads on that here.
You may wish to find a way to safely utilize a 20# grill tank in the meantime.
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08-26-2010, 10:35 AM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,169
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Here is a thread on retrofitting new horizontal tanks. Only 30# tanks will fit, not 40#, and the stand welded to the tank has to be cut slightly:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f287...ada-54494.html
Also, here is another source for horizontal tanks:
Horizontal Propane Tanks
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08-26-2010, 10:45 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
Trotwood
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2007
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There maybe another reason they would not fill your bottle. I kinda question the dent in a valve thing. Check the bottle certify dates.They may need re certified,and the guy just didnt want to deal with it or couldn't. Now I have NO experience with re-certifiying of propane bottles. I do know that mine have 2 more yrs before they are due and in this state,re-certify is only good for 5 and after the 5 only 1 and then replacement according to my gas dealer who supplies all my oxy-acetylene and gases for my mig welder.
I with other posters ,shop around, also look into leasing your bottles from your local gas supplier,it might be cheaper in the long run. GOOD LUCK
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7.3 liter Power Stroke Diesel
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08-26-2010, 01:23 PM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,169
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Something's up with that. DOT recertification is regulated at the federal level, see 49 CFR 173.34, and allows re-certifications to continue at 5 year intervals as long as the cylinder doesn't fail.
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08-26-2010, 01:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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The visual recertification is good for 5 years, each time as long as the cylinder is in good shape.
The initial tank certification from the factory is , I believe, good for 12 years.
There are a few places (Certified Cylinder, crossville,TN) that can hydro test a tank and recertify it for 12 more years, unfortunately the average filling place does not know that so you are as well of with the visual 5 year
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08-26-2010, 03:18 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1999 34' Limited
Darien
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Mar 2008
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I've talked to all the major propane places in Tucson and they've all said the same thing... The valves can't be replaced and the bottle must be taken out of use.......Bummer.....
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2008 F-350 Diesel
WBCCI # 4106
Steve & Jan
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